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Old 06-27-2007, 06:12 PM   #1
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they are exactly the same... except one is 10 inces long and another is 14 inches long.. same diameter. in the water, they are completely different.. side by side on the same weight jighead, the 14 has a slower fall rate because there is more rubber. If i made the 14 inch one the same dimensions as the 10 incher it would be not have the sexy action that my 10 inch one has

IMO, sluggo should have kept their 12 inch sluggo the same diameter as well.. diameter effects how the rubber dives through the water. I am sure when guys get their hands on them, they will have trouble fishing them the same as a 9 incher.. they're going to require a lot more weighing to get them to dive at the same rates as the 9 incher.. Im not knocking sluggo, they're killer lures, but you cant just make a rubber bait bigger without changing the dimensions and expect it to act the same... personally, if i was going to fish that mongo 12 inch sluggo id rig it on a ball head and somehow rig a stinger hook near the tail... its going to require a lot of lead.

Im not saying mine is better, nor am i saying sluggos are better.. Im just defending why my 10 and 14 inch baits are so alike-

oh wait.... i just noticed i didnt attach the pic.. sorry..

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Old 06-27-2007, 06:32 PM   #2
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I was at surfland the other day and they had huge rigged sluggo type lures (not sure if they were actuall slug-gos) for sale but they were selling for 8 or 9 dollars each. I laughed and understood why the box was still full.
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Old 06-28-2007, 12:07 PM   #3
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Interesting. I think I remember seeing a post about these a lil bit back. What's the diameter on these things? Fat enough to fit on a 3-4 oz jig head properly? The RONZ's are pretty fat near the head. I don't doubt these will catch, but comfort/confidence in a lure is key.
I took a 1.5oz owner lead head and attached it to a 10'' ronz and it fits pretty well but the reason why I used the owner lead head is beacuse of the longer hook shank which fits the hook hole on the ronz.

I have a feeling that the 3.5oz owner lead head will fit perfectly on a ronz.
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:59 PM   #4
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lurch, did they have tapered jig heads on them and were they in a plano box? If so, they might have been RONZ. They are pricey but great lures.

Nebe, thanks for the photo! They look fatter than I imagined. I don't think the Owner heads come in sizes large enough for me as I use 3-5 oz heads in the ditch. Any chance you can post a photo of them next to a 9" Slug-Go for reference sake? If I can get them on the jig collars without too much rippage, I might just have to give them a whirl!

Also, any big difference between the Pleasure Stick and Trick Stick besides the ribbing?

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Old 06-27-2007, 10:03 PM   #5
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The ones Lurch saw are custom poured by local Mike who also works at Surfland. He pours them and riggs them himself and fills the box often.

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Old 06-27-2007, 10:12 PM   #6
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If I can get them on the jig collars without too much rippage, I might just have to give them a whirl!

Also, any big difference between the Pleasure Stick and Trick Stick besides the ribbing?
The big ones fit on regular style bullets.
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Old 06-28-2007, 06:39 AM   #7
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Also, any big difference between the Pleasure Stick and Trick Stick besides the ribbing?
the trick sticks are narrower and designed for weightless finnesse fishing on a offsett worm hook or on a tinsquid. because they are narrower, they have a faster fall rate similar to a 9 inch sluggo...

A round 5 ounce jighead fits nicely on a pleasure stick too..
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:13 PM   #8
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A word on rigged sluggo durability,

I have a few Mckenna style sluggos that have lasted for well over 20 bass. The more glue the better. These things totally kill.
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:10 PM   #9
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lurch where'd you get the Owners in larger sizes? I've only seen them up to an once or two at the most. How heavy do they come?

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Old 06-29-2007, 11:29 AM   #10
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Lunker City needs to change the way they packege the 9". You get more platic than product...If they put them in the bag style like the smaller sluggos and fit 5 in the bag it would be nice.Unless they already do and I have not found them yet...Hell, add another $1 or 2 and they would still sell and may sell more.....

I like all the other plastics out there but I alway go back to the sluggo. I know a few of them add scent but has anyone tried soaking then in bunker oil bath ???? Would they absord some of the oil and if so It would add to a an already good product..
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:00 PM   #11
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lurch where'd you get the Owners in larger sizes? I've only seen them up to an once or two at the most. How heavy do they come?
I picked up a few 1.5oz heads but have not been able to find anything larger locally. I bet that you could search the internet and find the larger sizes.
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Old 07-08-2007, 01:41 PM   #12
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Cught a huge fish on the Slug-Go yesterday... It fell apart. If you catch anything over half a pound they fall apart! Ur better off with a jig.
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Old 07-08-2007, 02:12 PM   #13
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SLUG-GO VERSES JIG

In most situations a Sluggo rigged and fished properly will out catch any artificial including the deadly lead- headed bucktail jig. So it falls apart easy- I rather be catching than not. In places where I fish you can throw a jig, danny, needle or any other artificial until the paint falls off and you ain't going to catch big fish consistantly unless you use a live eel or the black Slug-go. That's why it is so good.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:33 PM   #14
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I've never been so good with plugs and needles, but between bucktails and slug-gos... the rubber has usually produced better.

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Old 07-09-2007, 02:14 PM   #15
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the proof is in the pudding. i picked up some 7.5" black sluggos for the 4th at race point only to use in the dark 3am to 4am and i hooked upon nearly every case .i took the tip from the march (On the Water)article by DJ Muller. for what its worth you cant keep live eels in your bag for months at a time
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Old 07-09-2007, 02:31 PM   #16
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Slug-Go, Slug-Go, Slug-Go
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:49 PM   #17
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sluggos and hogys are sick at night when the blues arnt around
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:53 PM   #18
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Every year I am finding that sluggo's are less effective. It seems as if bass are adapting to them. The last two trips in my boat I used sluggos, but my mutinous crew used alternatives. These scurvy, rum-ridden dogs outfished me 5 to one. Sluggo's just don't seem as effective as they used to be. I have a lot of respect for Steve, but at least in my area Sluggos are not getting the job done.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:18 PM   #19
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Sluggos.

I totally DISAREE! I am AMAZED every time I use this lure. I fish in the surf 100 percent of the time. Boat use is foreign to me.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:25 PM   #20
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Again, I still can't believe that the entire surf fishing community isn't using these things. It has nothing to do with confidence, it has to do with how you fish them and their bass catching ability,-- much like the live eel!
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:44 PM   #21
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I hate them. I curse them every time I land a bass on them... damn things work well once you get the mojo down.

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Old 07-10-2007, 12:45 PM   #22
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I'm going to do an experiment, the next time I'm into fish on eels (which hasn't been lately), I'm gonna throw a sluggo out there and see what happens. I think if the fish are still there, they will take the sluggo. Then I'm going to throw out a regular plug and see if that works. I've already done half of this experiment, in that I've been into fish, then cast off my last eel, then switch to sluggos and continue to catch.
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:29 PM   #23
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Again, I still can't believe that the entire surf fishing community isn't using these things. It has nothing to do with confidence, it has to do with how you fish them and their bass catching ability,-- much like the live eel!

Steve, be thankful the entire fishing community doesn't fish where you surf fish

Many do use them, there are lots of ways to skin a cat.
In the canal they need to be attached to a 4 ounce leadhead to be effective when the bass are there and lined up anlong rips on the bottom, maybe on the rare places and times the bass are in close up top you may be able to fish them like you do, but that is not often in the canal.

The cape surf, ya right, again the fish have to be within casting distance or what will you catch? a bluefish maybe, or a seal
If I ever get fish in close at the beach, I'll certainly give it a try.
In my skiff I have landed nice bass on 7-1/2" sluggos on a small jighead up to 25 pounds so I know they work, pink is a great color

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Old 07-10-2007, 02:55 PM   #24
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sure, could have been any of those things. I think it might have been presentation too, slow moving eel vs. fast jerk bait, different part of water column

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