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08-06-2007, 08:00 AM
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Also known as OAK
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You aint kidding KF, I was looking at CapeCodTimes.com to try and get more details... couldnt even find mention of it!
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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08-06-2007, 08:31 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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The only thing that would have made this better is if Whitey had his snack in full view of a boatload of tourons who forked over big bucks for one of those lame "seal watch" cruises.
Who the hell would spend money to see what you can see right from the Lighthouse almost any day of the week?
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-06-2007, 10:04 AM
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08-06-2007, 11:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
The only thing that would have made this better is if Whitey had his snack in full view of a boatload of tourons who forked over big bucks for one of those lame "seal watch" cruises.
Who the hell would spend money to see what you can see right from the Lighthouse almost any day of the week?
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Oh that would have been priceless! I'd pay to watch the watchers.
Mike were you at the run with a cruiser yesterday afternoon?
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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08-06-2007, 11:28 AM
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08-06-2007, 11:52 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake
Oh that would have been priceless! I'd pay to watch the watchers.
Mike were you at the run with a cruiser yesterday afternoon?
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Around 7-7:30 in the evening? Yup.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-06-2007, 12:22 PM
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Location: Bethany CT
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Water is definately not too cold. I spent a few summers a 100 miles north of san fran on the coast. The surf would be 57 or 58 in mid August. Some of the highest concentrations of whites in the world in those waters. Know a young girl who lost her leg to a white while surfing north of san fran ( that was about 8 years ago), she was 15 at the time and luckily lived. Water at the time would have been no more than 60 deg. or so... I was out friday off the vineyard sharking. Came to realize that I know 3 people, directly or close friend of a friend, who have been attacked by sharks. Tiger, white and bull. Thinking maybe I should play their birthdays in the lotto.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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08-06-2007, 08:12 PM
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Super Moderator
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Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
The only thing that would have made this better is if Whitey had his snack in full view of a boatload of tourons who forked over big bucks for one of those lame "seal watch" cruises. 
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LMAO
reminds me of that time on the west coast they nursed a seal back to life and the day of the big release back to the wild, the seal goes in the water and out of nowhere a killer whale dvours it in front of all the shocked people
we need a great white shark smilie
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-06-2007, 08:20 PM
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Location: Newport, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
LMAO
reminds me of that time on the west coast they nursed a seal back to life and the day of the big release back to the wild, the seal goes in the water and out of nowhere a killer whale dvours it in front of all the shocked people
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It's too bad digital cameras with video were not as prevalent then as they are now... 
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08-06-2007, 06:47 PM
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Well all I can say is I hope the Shark uses his two way shark communicator and relays to all the other white sharks in the ocean that there's some chubby seals on the cape to be had for brunch just about anytime probably without a fight.Just from reading these boards and hearing about the problems they cause for the surfcasters in the area I hope they all get eaten or at least bit in half.I can see the water in the cape as one big chumslick from seals filled with bluefish,stripers and white sharks.Maybe some of the chewed up seals will wash up with some plugs stuck in there faces so the fisherman can get their plugs back.All too funny IMO. 
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08-06-2007, 07:05 PM
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Location: Plymouth, Ma
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My brother told me the chance of being killed by an Ostrich are greater than the chance of being killed by a Shark. I told him I doubted that because I've never seen an Ostrich where I fish.
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The beatings will continue until morale improves
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08-07-2007, 08:34 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stripersnipr
My brother told me the chance of being killed by an Ostrich are greater than the chance of being killed by a Shark. I told him I doubted that because I've never seen an Ostrich where I fish.
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08-06-2007, 10:46 PM
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For the person that said Blue sharks don't eat seals... they're wrong....Blue sharks do indeed eat seals. They prefer temps of 44 - 60 degrees but will do fine in waters above 71 degrees.
The cape is full of blue sharks in july and august. They prefer coastal waters.
It might have been a great white but I still think it was a blue shark.
I caught a blue shark last year. about a 10-12 ft approx. 180lbs.
I guess we will never know what type it was unless someone sees it up close or catches it.
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08-07-2007, 03:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by b5545
For the person that said Blue sharks don't eat seals... they're wrong....Blue sharks do indeed eat seals. They prefer temps of 44 - 60 degrees but will do fine in waters above 71 degrees.
The cape is full of blue sharks in july and august. They prefer coastal waters.
It might have been a great white but I still think it was a blue shark.
I caught a blue shark last year. about a 10-12 ft approx. 180lbs.
I guess we will never know what type it was unless someone sees it up close or catches it.
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Uhh, that isn't a blue shark bite...........
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08-07-2007, 07:33 AM
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Location: Middleboro MA
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Mac, that pic is not the seal in the news, I grabbed that off the internet, I don't think harbor seals are that big, but maybe they are.
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-07-2007, 08:05 AM
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Cape Crusader
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Location: Ashland, MA
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Seems most likely to be a white shark, though I understand that makos will whack seals when they get really big (the bluefish only serve as a snack at that point). I've seen very large makos right off Race Point in only ~15 feet of water, close enough to surfcasters to make them fill their waders if they knew.
I'm certainly no shark expert, but I was not aware that blue sharks would take a seal, even the really big blue sharks.
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08-07-2007, 04:20 PM
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Location: Maine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
Mac, that pic is not the seal in the news, I grabbed that off the internet, I don't think harbor seals are that big, but maybe they are.
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Ok, could be a harbor seal though. They can grow up to 250 or 300#s I believe and 6' long.
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08-07-2007, 05:02 PM
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The tuna guys off Chatham have seen them ( GW's) numerous times this year off Crab, Great Hill and the Regal Sword. Someone had one come up in his spread just inside the BC Buoy last month.
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Why even try.........
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08-07-2007, 08:38 AM
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Kayakers beware
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08-07-2007, 09:05 AM
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B5545, Where did you hear that Blue sharks eat seals? I'm sure their has been few one offs, but seals are definately not on the blue shark diet. Also you won't really find a blue shark in waters under 50 degrees worldwide, you are more likely to find them in waters of 58-72 degrees. A blue shark that is 9 feet from the nose to the fork in the tail should weigh anywhere from 300-350 pounds.
If it wasn't a Great White in Chatham which it probably was, then it was a Mako. Like someone mentioned earlier, a big Mako will go after seals as well.
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08-07-2007, 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rip Runner
B5545, Where did you hear that Blue sharks eat seals? I'm sure their has been few one offs, but seals are definately not on the blue shark diet. Also you won't really find a blue shark in waters under 50 degrees worldwide, you are more likely to find them in waters of 58-72 degrees.
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I beg to differ. I've seen a blue shark attack our gill net in late december north of nauset within 5 miles of the beach. That water was colder than 50...
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08-09-2007, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Sluggoslinger
I beg to differ. I've seen a blue shark attack our gill net in late december north of nauset within 5 miles of the beach. That water was colder than 50...
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How long have you been running a Gill Net and how many blue sharks have you seen after October? I'm sure in all your years not many. I'm not saying you didn't see a blue shark in late December, your probably did, but it was certainly a one off situation and most likely a very large fish to be able to sustain itself in water that cold. Blue sharks are not generally found in waters below 50 degrees. Are you sure you didn't see a Porbeagle which are common in Cape Cod Bay in Late December and like colder water?
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08-09-2007, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rip Runner
How long have you been running a Gill Net and how many blue sharks have you seen after October? I'm sure in all your years not many. I'm not saying you didn't see a blue shark in late December, your probably did, but it was certainly a one off situation and most likely a very large fish to be able to sustain itself in water that cold. Blue sharks are not generally found in waters below 50 degrees. Are you sure you didn't see a Porbeagle which are common in Cape Cod Bay in Late December and like colder water?
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It was a blue no question about it but you are correct that it was a very large one. Actually the biggest I ever saw. I was standing next to the gunnel looking down at it biting a chunk out of a cod in the net. Pretty cool to watch. I'm not sure what the habits of these sharks are but I think this one was a resident of the area because we saw him every once in a while. We'd try to hit him in the head with the gaff to save our fish.
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08-08-2007, 03:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl F
[SIZE="6"]The sharks don’t travel in groups, and once a great white feeds, it won’t eat again for weeks, Capone said.
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I guess they haven't been watching shark week. On last night show there must have been 20 Great Whites chasing seals off an Island in South Africa.  Does that guy really think that a bite or two out a seal is going to keep a great white going for two weeks? 
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08-08-2007, 03:26 PM
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They Got what they needed Mike.. One expert to say it, and another to swear to it...
I think we all know, they only are fooling themselves.
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08-09-2007, 11:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl F
It's great, it's white, it's a shark!
By Amanda Lehmert
Staff Writer
August 08, 2007
CHATHAM – If you weren’t one of the Outer Cape beach-goers who caught a glimpse of a shark munching on a seal last weekend, you may have missed your chance to see the beast feast.
The shark seen off North Beach in Chatham Saturday night was likely a great white, state shark expert Greg Skomal concluded after examining the seal carcass and talking to witnesses, said Lisa Capone, spokeswoman for the Executive Office of Energy and Environmental Affairs.
It’s rare, but not unheard of, to see great whites in the area, Capone said.
“Maybe two times a year they see carcasses that have this signature look of a great white shark attack,” she said.
That is good news for nervous swimmers – and bad news for shark enthusiasts. The sharks don’t travel in groups, and once a great white feeds, it won’t eat again for weeks, Capone said.
Show’s over. Go back to your beach blanket.
So, they admit it is a white.. what happened to the tiget theory they spewed yesterday?
And all's well folks, back on the beach.
Like my son said tho.. why they (Town Hall) worried?.. beach was closed for 39 days for two birds and they didn't care then.. why should they care if people stay away for sharks?
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'good news for nervous swimmers" thats too funny, these bozos think it's the only one out there?
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Why even try.........
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08-08-2007, 12:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rip Runner
B5545, Where did you hear that Blue sharks eat seals? I'm sure their has been few one offs, but seals are definately not on the blue shark diet. Also you won't really find a blue shark in waters under 50 degrees worldwide, you are more likely to find them in waters of 58-72 degrees. A blue shark that is 9 feet from the nose to the fork in the tail should weigh anywhere from 300-350 pounds.
If it wasn't a Great White in Chatham which it probably was, then it was a Mako. Like someone mentioned earlier, a big Mako will go after seals as well.
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Blue shark diets include squid and many types of fish such as haddock, cod, pollock and mackerel. They are known to prey upon larger fish such as swordfish & tuna and may sometimes eat seals.
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08-08-2007, 12:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rip Runner
B5545, Where did you hear that Blue sharks eat seals? I'm sure their has been few one offs, but seals are definately not on the blue shark diet. Also you won't really find a blue shark in waters under 50 degrees worldwide, you are more likely to find them in waters of 58-72 degrees. A blue shark that is 9 feet from the nose to the fork in the tail should weigh anywhere from 300-350 pounds.
If it wasn't a Great White in Chatham which it probably was, then it was a Mako. Like someone mentioned earlier, a big Mako will go after seals as well.
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Rip runner send me your email and I will sendthe pic of a blue shark I got last year in may. The one i got was around 10 ft and weighed about 200 lbs. If you don't want to give out your email then I will tell you the site the pic is on.
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08-07-2007, 10:56 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Is it illegal to feed seals to sharks  ?
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08-07-2007, 11:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl F
Town's trying to claim it was a tiger shark...
They are Peesed that the folks went to the press too.. knew they would be...
Now.. today's update on CCTimes site...
Aggressive seals are causing a worry..
http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pb...EWS11/70807005
Take note.. illegal to feed them.. people on the island are hand feeding them bluefish
So..
who is breaking the law when the steal a fish of of your line?... 
feelgooders might try to make that reach....
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Tiger sharks are rarer than Whites around these parts and who really cares if it was a Tiger or a white? I think it was most likely a White, and it will happen again. How many last year Karl? 3 or 4 times I think it was. The more seals the more chances of it happening again. Those surfers on short boards should be wary. Sooner or later someone will have a close call or worse. Shark city here we come.
You have to wonder, this attack was witnessed. How many are not?
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