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Old 03-20-2008, 12:16 PM   #1
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told ya

He is all done.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Hillary Clinton has reclaimed the lead from Barack Obama in the Democratic presidential race for the first time since early February, a new national poll out Thursday suggests.

In the latest Gallup daily tracking poll, Clinton holds a 7 point lead over the Illinois senator, 49 to 42 percent. That lead is outside the poll’s statistical margin of error of 3 points — the widest gap between the two candidates in weeks.

Wait until you see the exit polls from the upcoming primaries. Obama 95% of the black vote, Clinton 85% of the white vote. Great job uniting Dems!
the best part.....its the democrats divided by race, getting burned on what the preach....this is goign to be to much fun to watch!

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Old 03-20-2008, 12:30 PM   #2
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I think you're jumpting the gun a bit here.

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Old 03-20-2008, 12:36 PM   #3
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just goes to show how stupid americans are. The fact that they can be so swayed by something that is so silly...
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Old 03-20-2008, 01:57 PM   #4
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Sunnit's for McGain or whatever he called them too!!
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not all done but

kinda like and over toasted piece of toast

it can be scraped off with a butter knife and still eaten
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:51 PM   #6
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just goes to show how stupid americans are. The fact that they can be so swayed by something that is so silly...
not americans, democrats

ps - I agree with them

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Old 03-20-2008, 06:38 PM   #7
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not americans, democrats
Nebe, he's got you there. I am not a Democrat nor Republican, but one of the worst traits of the Dem's is their tendency to play the intellectual, like they're smarter than everybody else, and anybody that doesnt agree is "stupid" or doesn't "get it"
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:46 PM   #8
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Nebe, he's got you there. I am not a Democrat nor Republican, but one of the worst traits of the Dem's is their tendency to play the intellectual, like they're smarter than everybody else, and anybody that doesnt agree is "stupid" or doesn't "get it"
Like when #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney remarked yesterday as if he really didn't care that the majority of Americans didn't think Iraq was worth it?

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No, like when you responded "So you really have no idea what he was talking about, do you?" because you can't accept my opinion which differs from yours.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:08 PM   #10
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No, like when you responded "So you really have no idea what he was talking about, do you?" because you can't accept my opinion which differs from yours.
I don't really know what your opinion really is because you don't seem to be willing to articulate it. In my book "pathetic" is not an opinion, it's simply a rejection.

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Old 03-20-2008, 08:41 PM   #11
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Nebe, he's got you there. I am not a Democrat nor Republican, but one of the worst traits of the Dem's is their tendency to play the intellectual, like they're smarter than everybody else, and anybody that doesnt agree is "stupid" or doesn't "get it"
This is something they cannot help, it is the liberals tragic flaw in its purest form. If allowed, they will also continue to argue a point long after everyone else has left the room and then declare victory to a deafening silence.

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Old 03-21-2008, 06:37 AM   #12
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This is something they cannot help, it is the liberals tragic flaw in its purest form.
So you're talking down to me saying that I don't get it?

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So you're talking down to me saying that I don't get it?

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Old 03-21-2008, 06:42 AM   #14
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If you're not in the room how do you know it's silent?

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Like when #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney remarked yesterday as if he really didn't care that the majority of Americans didn't think Iraq was worth it?

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George Washington knew that a majority of Americans didn't think the Revolutionary war was worth it, I think most people are opposed to war in general, it takes a lot of courage to take a country into war and suffer the daily criticism the loss of lives, Obama opposed the war from the start but that was as a state senator with no access to any info that the people that he now criticizes were privy to, many have backed off of their support purely for political reasons, Hillary's stance shifts with the polls, it's true that Democrats have cowed Republicans and Conservatives by labeling them racists, bigots, sexists and homophobes as a way to silence them over disagreements and they are now being hoisted on their own batard and the party is being ripped apart but is's not helpful to poke a finger in their chest and say "haha", we still have to all live together and there are always more elections...people, parties and countries for that matter display who they truly are during times of great turmoil, I consider myself a conservative but I "liked" Obama more that McCain and Hillary for a whole host of reasons that have nothing to do with him being black, I wouldn't vote for him because of his policies but I have sympathy for him right now, Obama while being very likable and charismatic has a history that is coming to light which is clearly radical, socialist progressive leaning toward Marxist, policies that have failed and are currently failing around the world, the dems and much of the world is trending this way, just look at South America and the European progressives, this movement got going at the beginning of last century and was fortunately cut short by WW2, the question is whether or not we'll repeat history, empower a large central government or stick to the principles that this country was founded on originally and that have made us the greatest most prosperous and charitable on earth...Happy Easter(even to the secular progressives out there!)
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george washington along with all of this country's founding fathers would certianly all agree that this country was based on the indevidual rights of its citizens, the seperation of powers and most importantly, They would never have gone to war based on fears and specuations over another country. That being said, I believe that if they were able to see what our current administration has done in their 2 terms and how they have limited our rights to privacy, invaded a country on a series of 'mights and maybes', all the while sounding off orange alert terror warnings to keep its citizens scared, they would be saddened beyond belief.
Our goverment is out of control, our foriegn policies are out of control, and I think someone needs to step into office that is willing to change what is broken in a way that will favor everyone. Its plainly obvious to me that the people in charge now are helping out the companies while not shaping much of their policies to favor the lower classes of American citizens.

Stimulating the economy goes beyond a 700 dollar check from the IRS and lowing interest rates which only deflates the value of the dollar.

I could go on but i have a lot to do today...
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Yes, well I guess most arguments would be easier if we had the benefit of hindsight now wouldn't they?

I think you're missing the point of the Cheney comment though. Certainly leaders have to make tough decisions, but when leaders with a track record of poor judgement arrogantly act as though they are enlightened while the people are not...well, then sir we have a problem.

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Old 03-21-2008, 11:33 AM   #18
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They would never have gone to war based on fears and speculations over another country.

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really?
I think that was the basis for both of these...
The Revolutionary War
The War of 1812

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really?
I think that was the basis for both of these...
The Revolutionary War
The War of 1812
What are you smoking? Both of these wars were due to things happening here on our soil.

And I believe the point that Nebe is trying to make is that the Founding Fathers would never have signed up for the doctrine of "preventative" war that neoconservatives seem to believe is so ethically sound.

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i was joking

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i was joking
Sorry, but considering the absurd things you say when serious it's very difficult to tell the difference

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Someone has a different opinion than spence and their thoughts are absurd.

The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:50 PM   #23
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Someone has a different opinion than spence and their thoughts are absurd.
I never said his thoughts were absurd because they were different than mine.

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Old 03-21-2008, 01:09 PM   #24
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Sorry, but considering the absurd things you say when serious it's very difficult to tell the difference

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Well, you and Jimmy obviously differ in opinion and based on the quote above, how do you define the word "is" Mr. Clinton ...............errrrrrr define the phrase "absurd things you say" spence.
Please. Don't even bother. Why do I even visit this forum.

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Have some fun will ya

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Why do I even visit this forum.
because you seek the insight and genius of the spence experience..
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because you seek the insight and genius of the spence experience..



Actually I was just reading all the posts and they are entertaining.

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