XRA 1205 w/low rider guides

[Back Beach]

Keep with a traditional layout or new guide concept layout on the 1205 blank. Same goes for any other 10' or less blank for that matter.
If you need to get out further, buy a wetsuit or a boat.

Over and out

[Headhunter]

I have to disagree with the smaller collector frames, although it might be old school. I can cast an eel an agerage of 80 yards. lots of the time I am throwing better than that. The 50 proberly could go, is there anyone getting better distance with smaller stripper? I wouldnt mind improving my distance.

[Headhunter]

I did just look at those ti sics 50 and 40, they will be on both my sticks next year.

[SeaWolf]

i doubt many will ever notice the different in casting distance of 10-20 yards at the distances you will be getting, no matter the guide layout. for most people, they are casting bait like eels or non-aerodynamic lures like metal lips, so distance is not important. those casting metal, poppers or needles will get distance.

one of the main purposes of the NGC layout is for a lighter and more responsive rod. there is a quicker blank recovery due to larger and heavier guides near the tip. the longer the rod, the more you will notice this, or if you use glass. as numbskul mentioned, lowriders were first built for lighter braids on long rods, > 12'. today, people are testing them on outfits as short as 9', 50# braid, and even 20# mono.

as far as what option is best for you, do some testing or settle on what one you feel you'll be most happy with. all are proven and all work for the purposes intended.

until fuij stops making a 50 collector, the COF method w/ 50mm collectors will be built for northeast surfcasters, who are really the only anglers using this guide.

[Saltheart]

As I said in post 7 , even a former world record holder who is averaging 210 meters per cast only got 6 extra yards with a low rider set up on a rod almost 13 feet long. 6 extra yards out of 210!! Not worth it at all if it interferes with fishability or causes even an occasional down time do to problems with a leader knot.

As mentioned the New Guide Concept NGC and the Low Rider layouts are two different things.

Anyway , I can build my own rods NGC or LR or Spiral or whatever I want and based on what I know about fishing in New England I choose the "Old Fashion" way for my own surf rods.