Afghanistan.. clear objective and exit strategy?

[spence]

The "Obama mission and exit strategy"? He's pretty much continued the Bush policy on Afghanistan, with slightly more strategic focus than Iraq.

Strategy seems to have been flawed from the start, but people want to jump on Obama now that he's in charge. Too bad none of those neocons bothered to pick up a history book.

My opinion is that we should leave and park an aircraft carrier offshore who's responsibility is to punish anyone who gets out of line.

-spence

[striperman36]

Naw, just a bunch of UAV's ready to rock

However, the issue is to know who is the one's to be punished

[Raven]

they have caves and tunnels that UAV's cannot even touch

so until those are discovered it's a continuing shell game
hiding in civilian homes pretending to be non taliban.

what pissed me off was hearing about them cutting off the fingers of those they caught voting....

how's that for democracy?

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by Raven

they have caves and tunnels that UAV's cannot even touch

so until those are discovered it's a continuing shell game
hiding in civilian homes pretending to be non taliban.

what pissed me off was hearing about them cutting off the fingers of those they caught voting....

how's that for democracy?

That unfortunately is the way the non-democratic world works, you vote we do bad things to you. Never going to stop that everywhere.

[Raven]

while i don't subscribe to the idea of internment camps like we did with the Japanese in the United States.....

it would seem like we need to separate the chaff from the wheat..... (better)
so we know who to kill.... but that is a difficult situation @ best
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2Quote CNN : "To the Taliban, winning is, in fact, not losing," he said. "They feel that over time, they will ultimately outlast the international community's attempt to stabilize Afghanistan. It's really a game of will to them."
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so based on that idea.... it's a game of breaking their will.
Others have tried and FAILED over many years so unless we use completely different tactics it's not a very effective strategy.

an interesting point the article also made was how the taliban are watering the ground around their mortar positions so as to not create a dust cloud and give themselves away.

that technology the aliens used in the movie:" predator" that triangulated the trajectory of a missile in reverse is closer to what we need to be doing it would seem. Unfortunately we are not that advanced technologically yet but we are close.

I'm not sure why we are not bombing the crap out of those mountains .... which gives them too much of an advantage...

so it's a war of foot soldiers Vs IED's .

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

He's pretty much continued the Bush policy on Afghanistan . . . Strategy seems to have been flawed from the start . . .Too bad none of those neocons bothered to pick up a history book.-spence

Why on earth is Obama following the flawed Bush plan? Surely, Obama has read a history book?

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Why on earth is Obama following the flawed Bush plan? Surely, Obama has read a history book?

Not always easy to undo what's been done.

-spence

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

Not always easy to undo what's been done.

-spence

But Obama made it all sound so easy when he was campaigning. Are you telling me he can't deliver on everything he promised?

Oh, and Spence, could you throw "neocon" into any more of your responses? Let me guess. It was the word of the day on your Doublespeak calendar last week and you're trying to use it as much as possible.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

The "Obama mission and exit strategy"? He's pretty much continued the Bush policy on Afghanistan, with slightly more strategic focus than Iraq.

Strategy seems to have been flawed from the start, but people want to jump on Obama now that he's in charge. Too bad none of those neocons bothered to pick up a history book.

My opinion is that we should leave and park an aircraft carrier offshore who's responsibility is to punish anyone who gets out of line.

-spence

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