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Old 09-12-2009, 08:23 AM   #1
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I think a bumper sticker is a label that links the message it portrays to the driver.. People form opinions based on many subconcious levels and I'm just saying that negative messages like that does no favors to the csuse
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Old 09-12-2009, 08:45 AM   #2
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I think Patrick is mostly right. There have been some vistories, not as many as we need and not as many as we could get if we acted together on this stuff. Instead we chuckle and riddicule and potificate from our Soapboxes and in the end we don't do a hell of a lot about it.

Nobody (ok, very few people but I don't who the hell they are) works harder and goes to more meetings than him in our area.

WE joke, and chuckle, and pay lip service to things but WE as a group really don't do a hell of a lot.

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Old 09-11-2009, 02:14 PM   #3
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I agree with Patrick; having stickers, shirts etc. that call for the demise of any animal, be it a plover or a seal, is just about the worst thing that we can do to assist the people who want us off of the beach accomplish their objective.

The problem is not the bird, is is the mindset that our access to the resource has a negative effect on the wildlife. Any declaration that hints of ill wishes towards any wildlife can not but reinforce that mindset.

If you do not know, Patrick has put considerable time and effort into fighting against the tide. I urge you all to seriously consider his words, rant or not, because there is an awful lot of truth in his words.

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Old 09-11-2009, 02:31 PM   #4
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Ditto what 2na said.

I don't want to TELL my Grandson what it WAS like - I want him to experience it.
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:22 PM   #5
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