Ft.Hood terrorist.

[buckman]

Brian, No one is saying Muslim's shouldn't be allowed to serve. The Christians, Jews and Atheists aren't terrorist trying to kill all Americans. The terrorist that are, including the Major, are all Muslims. That's not a made up stat or my opinion. It's fact.
You are arguing that this was not terrorism or he did not act in a terrorist way. Maybe you could enlighten us then.

The fact they didn't finish him off may allow us to find out what he thought and who else he has been in contact with. Now would be a good time for the PC bunch ( I kind of like that name) to change your torture position

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by buckman

The terrorist that are, including the Major, are all Muslims.

Every terrorist trying to kill American's are Muslims? Not one group is of a different faith?
Sure about that?

FlyRod has the president showed one leaning of Mercy or justification for this animal? No.

As far as this being terrorism? I disagree. I think it was a mass murder. I'll leave it for debate, you'll keep saying it is, I'll stick to it being mass murder.

Bottom line, it is a tragedy. Period.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

As far as this being terrorism? I disagree. I think it was a mass murder. I'll leave it for debate, you'll keep saying it is, I'll stick to it being mass murder.

The difference is that you can actually support your position. Where they support theirs with "well he was a Muslim."

Addition: I'm also rather curious on how the PCing of America caused this.

[Fly Rod]

Yes Buckman, his speech was very good and that can not be taken away from him.

He also said a day prior that we should not rush to judgement.

The FBI did not rush to judgement and we see what happened.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Every terrorist trying to kill American's are Muslims? Not one group is of a different faith?
Sure about that?

FlyRod has the president showed one leaning of Mercy or justification for this animal? No.

As far as this being terrorism? I disagree. I think it was a mass murder. I'll leave it for debate, you'll keep saying it is, I'll stick to it being mass murder.

Bottom line, it is a tragedy. Period.

noone to blame in a tragedy...everyone involved is a victim of an unavoidable event.....is that really where you want to stand on this one?

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by scottw

noone to blame in a tragedy...everyone involved is a victim of an unavoidable event.....is that really where you want to stand on this one?

Who said anything about no one being blamed? I have said over and over again someone dropped the ball on this.

From my desk copy of Websters:
Tragedy
1: a medieval narrative poem or tale typically describing the downfall of a great man
2 a : a disastrous event

That's the form of the word I'll stick to. Yes, this is a disastrous effect. Occurring a few days before Veterans day it is a TRAGEDY in my mind.

You guys see terrorism, I see a nut job shooting up his workplace. How many Christian nut jobs have walked into churches and opened fire at their own? I can think of the Knoxville case and a few others. How many non-religious people have walked into a post office or office building and shot it up. Was that terrorism? How about, the timely topic of John Allen Muhammad? Was he a terrorist? He incited fear? No, he was a mass murder and executed as one. JD mentioned the Va Tech shootings. Was he a terrorist? Or just a maladjusted nutjob.

Ultimately, we're arguing about a terrible thing this nut job, who killed 13 innocent people did. What we decide to call it is pretty irrelevant. What I do not want is my son to grow up thinking everyone with a name like Hussein COULD be a TERRORIST just because he is Muslim. There are horrible people in this world of all faiths, creeds and colors. Unfortunately, this has to be the lesson.

Happy Veteran's day to all that served.

[Fly Rod]

According to a Rammussen Report majority of Americans want Ft. Hood investigated as terror attack.

65% want death penalty

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

According to a Rammussen Report majority of Americans want Ft. Hood investigated as terror attack.

65% want death penalty

Interesting because the average American doesn't know the specifics of the event aside from what the news has reported. That's what the investigators are for.

Regardless of how it is investigated, I want the death penalty as well. Murdering, regardless of one person or 50, should be met with death.