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Old 04-21-2010, 06:34 AM   #1
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c'mon now....Biden was out yesterday railing against the greedy...Obama is fighting with and impuning ...well...everyone..and seems more angry and nasty with every speech..and you want to talk about Cindy McCain "business woman and phoilanthropist" according to Wikipedia....first show me where she's ever lectured others regarding what they ought be doing with their lives and money as the Obama's and Biden do on a regular basis

Is Bryan right?..."the majority" will happily take credit for being quite charitable with money that fell into their lap and possibly more rightly belongs with someone else... and feel quite good about it...particularly if they keep a little for themselves to buy a boat (one of those "luxuries" that Spence told Jimmy ought to be highly taxed along with trucks...and what about Global Warming", is this a solar powered boat???) sooo...extremely charitable with found money but with earned money...ahhh....not so much....but anxious to tell you that you need to be doing more

Shouldn't the super libs be leading by example? or do they get credit for doing just enough...in Obama's case 5.8% is close enough to the 6% average for charitable giving despite all of the rhetoric? in Biden's case

these are the Progressives........your money is theirs and their money is theirs...first they deamonize you and impune you...then they take your money claiming to make your life better...they will tell you how to live and what is good for you but don't expect them to apply the same to their own lives...they are exempt from their pontifications and live very high at the public trough....and their defenders are working overtime
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Scott, you win.
I don;t have time to go look up every politician's charitable givings and see how it relates to their stance on policy. I don't have the time so I'll throw up the white flag.

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Old 04-21-2010, 07:25 AM   #3
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Scott, you win.
I don;t have time to go look up every politician's charitable givings and see how it relates to their stance on policy. I don't have the time so I'll throw up the white flag.

have fun
Bry...as I stated before...you don't need to...just the ones that are in your face constantly telling you what you ought to do...and the ones that impune and besmirch...ohhh...say...the "tea baggers" for instance because they oppose large oppressive government and higher taxation....the hypocricy is on a neon sign telling you "Warning...Danger Will Robinson"...with little arms flailing around....sorry...a little Lost in Space reference


is anyone looking into Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

Greedy Greedy Wall Street


top contributions to OBAMA

University of California $1,591,395
Goldman Sachs $994,795
Harvard University $854,747
Microsoft Corp $833,617
Google Inc $803,436
Citigroup Inc $701,290
JPMorgan Chase & Co $695,132
Time Warner $590,084
Sidley Austin LLP $588,598
Stanford University $586,557
National Amusements Inc $551,683
UBS AG $543,219
Wilmerhale Llp $542,618
Skadden, Arps et al $530,839
IBM Corp $528,822
Columbia University $528,302
Morgan Stanley $514,881
General Electric $499,130
US Government $494,820
Latham & Watkins $493,835

Despite the President’s rhetoric, his support for the Democrats’ bailout bills gives big Wall Street banks a permanent, taxpayer-funded safety net by designating them “too big to fail.” Just whose side is President Obama on? Here are the facts:

WALL STREET GIVES GENEROUSLY TO THEN-CANDIDATE OBAMA:

• Goldman Sachs, recently charged with defrauding investors, was President Obama’s top Wall Street contributor during the 2008 election cycle, donating nearly $1 million to his campaign.
• Securities & investment firms in general were the fifth largest contributor to President Obama’s 2008 campaign, donating nearly $15 million.
• Big banks also donated more than $3 million to Obama during the 2008 election cycle.

PRESIDENT OBAMA’S RHETORIC SAYS “GET TOUGH ON WALL STREET”:

“We will hold Wall Street accountable. We will protect and empower consumers in our financial system. That’s what reform is all about. That’s what we’re fighting for.” (Weekly Address, 4/17/10)

PRESIDENT OBAMA’S ACTIONS PUSH PERMANENT BAILOUTS FOR HIS WALL STREET FRIENDS:

• The Dodd Gives Wall Street a Pre-Existing $50 Billion Bailout Slush Fund. Sen. Dodd’s financial bailout bill would create a $50 billion ‘orderly resolution fund’ ($150 billion in Rep. Barney Frank’s bill) that could be repeatedly replenished from industry assessment.
• The Dodd Bill Gives Wall Street a Treasury-Backed Credit Line. The FDIC would be authorized to borrow from Treasury up to the amount of cash left in the ‘resolution fund’ plus 90 percent of the value of the assets of any and all too-big-to-fail firms in its control.
• The Dodd Bill Provides a Government-Guaranteed to Wall Street Debt. The FDIC would be authorized to guarantee the debt of any solvent bank, bank holding company, or affiliate in any amount subject only to an aggregate debt limit set by the Treasury Department.
• The Dodd Bill Institutionalizes Unlimited Wall Street Bailouts. The FDIC, as the resolution agency for too-big-to-fail firms, would be given wide latitude to use resources to make payments to anyone in any amounts, at their own discretion.
• The Dodd Bill Gives Wall Street Bridge Bank Authority. The FDIC would be authorized to create a bridge institution as part of resolving a covered institution and vest the FDIC with broad authority to use the orderly resolution fund in connection with the bridge institution.

The Obama Administration is brought to you by Goldman Sachs.

Jide Zeitlin, Adam Storch, Mark Patterson, Tim the Tax Cheat Geithner, Neel Kashkari and Gary Gensler. Storch is of particular interest. He took a job Team Obama created for him as COO of the Securities and Exchange Commission’s enforcement division. Obama’s SEC is the group now going after Goldman Sachs.
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:26 AM   #4
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Scott, you win.
I don;t have time to go look up every politician's charitable givings and see how it relates to their stance on policy. I don't have the time so I'll throw up the white flag.

have fun
You don't have to when there are 1000 "unbiased, non-partisan" websites to do it for you that you can selectively copy/paste from without providing any link back to the information.
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:47 AM   #5
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You don't have to when there are 1000 "unbiased, non-partisan" websites to do it for you that you can selectively copy/paste from without providing any link back to the information.
no...you only need to investigate all of the other politicians if the only way to make the "ONE" look better and the "VICE ONE" look not so pathetic is to try to draw some kind of equivalent..can't they be judged individually on the content of their character and what they actually do versus their rhetoric? think I've heard that somewhere before....nope...this is the JD.."they all do it" so it's no big deal easy out, excuse......typical...but Bry is a scientist so he should just "wager" on the numbers as he did regarding the giving of other high earners...that's very scientific.. 2 for every 1 ...I think it was...

of course JD...your info is the only "credible info"...everything else is biased and partisan...he heh....

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of course JD...your info is the only "credible info"...everything else is biased and partisan...he heh....
I haven't really provided any info... but when I do, you can bet that there's a link with it - especially when I copy/paste.
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I haven't really provided any info... but when I do, you can bet that there's a link with it - especially when I copy/paste.
and that matters because?...you dismiss my c/p as quickly as you dismiss my opinion if it challenges your world view, this is just your intellectually weak method to change the subject ....from now on just assume that everything I write and think is because Fox News told me and you will be quite satisfied and you won't have to keep repeating yourself....although...full disclosure...I've never watched Fox News in my life...we've never seen the need to have anything more than basic cable so I don't get the Fox News Channel and all of the programming that you abhor....of course, that means that I'm denying myself the enlightment from brainiacs like Maher, Matthews and the other cable channels....etc....

if you think about it..Obama's entire life and presidency is a cut and paste and he doesn't have to back anything up, he just keeps attacking anyone that does not play by his rules

did you write your letter yet?...you know...to "thank him"...he's waiting...

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Old 04-22-2010, 02:48 PM   #8
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About the tea party movement...

Let me ask a question.

In Rhode Island, the number of participants at the Tax day Rally last yearand this years rally was estimated to roughly be the same. I'm not sure about Boston.

Does that have any significance (i.e. because there were not significantly more people there after a year as a 'movement')?

Not a dig at the tea party. Just curious what you guys think.

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Old 04-22-2010, 03:10 PM   #9
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About the tea party movement...

Let me ask a question.

In Rhode Island, the number of participants at the Tax day Rally last yearand this years rally was estimated to roughly be the same. I'm not sure about Boston.

Does that have any significance (i.e. because there were not significantly more people there after a year as a 'movement')?

Not a dig at the tea party. Just curious what you guys think.
I think the movement is losing steam. People are feeling like they don't matter. They are being misrepresented and the media has portrayed them poorly. Bashing the Tea Party movement is the new "cool thing" to do if your on the left. Bush bashing is so 2009.

I think come election time, the true feelings of the American people will come out. People who support the Tea Party vote.
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well, when the president spends his time impuning you and prodding you for reactions, and the former president is trying to link you to domestic terrorism and the media is misrepresenting you by highlighting whatever fringe element they can drum up, I suppose you become a bit wary as a loosely affiliated "member" of such a "movement"..bottom line, these are not pot smoking hippies that don't have jobs or need showers and can just hang around for days ...and they aren't Union rent-a-mobs that show up on a moments notice...they're average Americans, most who have never done this stuff before and would prefer to be working and taking care of their families but see very clearly where the country is headed and decided this is an outlet for their voices...it's a strange obsession with Palin, Tea Parties and the like for some...can't stomp them into the dirt enough...do you feel threatened ??? they can't affect your life, they aren't on your lawn with their crazy signs and hats...Obama is taking care of everything now, you have nothing to fear....just chant "hope and change" and leave poor Sarah and the Tea Baggers alone will ya? JD...I'm talking to YOU !
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They are being misrepresented and the media has portrayed them poorly.
I love it, blame the media

I thought Republicans were the party of self responsibility?

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I love it, blame the media

I thought Republicans were the party of self responsibility?

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How does being "self responsible" stop someone else from portraying you poorly?
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How does being "self responsible" stop someone else from portraying you poorly?
Who proved they did?

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About the tea party movement...

Let me ask a question.

In Rhode Island, the number of participants at the Tax day Rally last yearand this years rally was estimated to roughly be the same. I'm not sure about Boston.

Does that have any significance (i.e. because there were not significantly more people there after a year as a 'movement')?

Not a dig at the tea party. Just curious what you guys think.
Why would there be more people at the Tax Day Rally? A majority of Tea Party participants believe the taxes that they pay is fair.


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I think the movement is losing steam. People are feeling like they don't matter. They are being misrepresented and the media has portrayed them poorly. Bashing the Tea Party movement is the new "cool thing" to do if your on the left. Bush bashing is so 2009.

I think come election time, the true feelings of the American people will come out. People who support the Tea Party vote.
They aren't being misrepresented... they're portraying themselves poorly.
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sarah palin will sink the effort
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They aren't being misrepresented... they're portraying themselves poorly.
That's like me saying everyone on StriperTalk are arrogant, know it all, Obama lovers because of a select few
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Why would there be more people at the Tax Day Rally? A majority of Tea Party participants believe the taxes that they pay is fair.

They aren't being misrepresented... they're portraying themselves poorly.
you keep making this claim JD...but I'm pretty sure you found this nugget in the NY Times poll and column posted earlier in the thread...if you read the link...this claim and supposition was based on a NY Times poll of 800 people that claimed to represent the tea party....you may as well have formed your opinion from a Pravda poll...
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