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TUNA & Big Game TUNA - Offshore Fishing for Tuna and Other Big Game |
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07-19-2010, 11:40 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,659
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Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
As I understand it...A charter permit holder can operate in either category..rec or comm and it is based on the FIRST fish you keep. If you take a small fish you are a rec that entire day and the charter/headboat retention rules for rec fishing apply that day. If you keep a 73+ you are a comm that day and the general category rules apply that day.
( you have to be a charter capt and have all the safety req like you would for comm fishermen to get this permit)
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You got that part right. Good luck to anyone who thinks you can get all the required safety equipment for 2 grand. Basically the tuna permits are a trade off, you get the angling permit you give up keeping big fish but you can keep smaller fish <73 inches. You get the General permit, you can't keep small fish but you keep the bigguns. You takes yer choice.
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07-19-2010, 12:19 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 4,834
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Originally Posted by MakoMike
You got that part right. Good luck to anyone who thinks you can get all the required safety equipment for 2 grand. Basically the tuna permits are a trade off, you get the angling permit you give up keeping big fish but you can keep smaller fish <73 inches. You get the General permit, you can't keep small fish but you keep the bigguns. You takes yer choice.
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You don't need a captains license for Commercial and for around 4k you could get the stuff you need. I have priced it out. That being said, I don't think 4k is alot of money when you consider the cos of boat and gear. I was thinking it would be smart to have the stuff regardless. Alot of Recs go where and when the Comm's go anyway.
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07-19-2010, 04:53 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,659
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Originally Posted by buckman
You don't need a captains license for Commercial and for around 4k you could get the stuff you need. I have priced it out. That being said, I don't think 4k is alot of money when you consider the cos of boat and gear. I was thinking it would be smart to have the stuff regardless. Alot of Recs go where and when the Comm's go anyway.
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No one said you needed a Captains license for a general Category permit, what we said was you needed the Captain's license for a Charter/headboat permit. Two different permits. 4K for the safety equipment is a lot closer to reality than the 2K someone else suggested.
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07-21-2010, 09:31 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Duxbury
Posts: 652
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As a new member of the charter/headboat category this year I'd put my investment in the $5k -$7k range for safety(raft, Epirb, suits, flares etc) , captains license (course) and all of the nonsense involved for charter license (TWIC, CPR, physicals).
So far I haven't recouped a dime. My hope was that I'd get a couple of commercial fish to help recoup the investment. Unfortunately the USCG licensing process took 6 weeks and I missed the good spring bite.
So yes, I have a vested interest in selling fish.
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-Andrew
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07-19-2010, 05:00 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,690
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MakoMike
You got that part right. Good luck to anyone who thinks you can get all the required safety equipment for 2 grand. Basically the tuna permits are a trade off, you get the angling permit you give up keeping big fish but you can keep smaller fish <73 inches. You get the General permit, you can't keep small fish but you keep the bigguns. You takes yer choice.
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"Good luck to anyone who thinks you can get all the required safety equipment for 2 grand"
A new solas required raft will cost you minimum $2500
My raft repack & inspect was $1238.00 alone this year. (once a brand new raft is 2 years or older inspections & repack are required EVERY year @ an average $600 - $800 per year and at 5 years it will be close to the amount I paid this year)
Epirb batter replace $310.00 (every 5 years)
New Commercial Solas flare kit $180.00 (every 3 years)
Not sure what most guys are paying for boat insurance but I can assure you once your ins co finds out you go commercial your rates will atleast double !
Every buyer pays by check, so then you can plan to get your accountant involved also !
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LETS GO BRANDON
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07-20-2010, 05:13 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 4,834
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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
"Good luck to anyone who thinks you can get all the required safety equipment for 2 grand"
A new solas required raft will cost you minimum $2500
My raft repack & inspect was $1238.00 alone this year. (once a brand new raft is 2 years or older inspections & repack are required EVERY year @ an average $600 - $800 per year and at 5 years it will be close to the amount I paid this year)
Epirb batter replace $310.00 (every 5 years)
New Commercial Solas flare kit $180.00 (every 3 years)
Not sure what most guys are paying for boat insurance but I can assure you once your ins co finds out you go commercial your rates will atleast double !
Every buyer pays by check, so then you can plan to get your accountant involved also !
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Your right Ron, but then you can write off all your expenses and take a loss come January. That alone could wash the added cost.
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07-20-2010, 06:39 AM
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#7
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,690
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Originally Posted by buckman
Your right Ron, but then you can write off all your expenses and take a loss come January. That alone could wash the added cost.
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Steve,
Being that my wife is a cpa I'm all set in the accounting lesson !
I was just pointing out the actual cost, someone threw out the $2000.
amount, thats not exactly close, and as I mentioned there are cost every year not just the initial purchase.
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LETS GO BRANDON
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07-20-2010, 07:57 PM
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#8
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 629
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
"Good luck to anyone who thinks you can get all the required safety equipment for 2 grand"
A new solas required raft will cost you minimum $2500
My raft repack & inspect was $1238.00 alone this year. (once a brand new raft is 2 years or older inspections & repack are required EVERY year @ an average $600 - $800 per year and at 5 years it will be close to the amount I paid this year)
Epirb batter replace $310.00 (every 5 years)
New Commercial Solas flare kit $180.00 (every 3 years)
Not sure what most guys are paying for boat insurance but I can assure you once your ins co finds out you go commercial your rates will atleast double !
Every buyer pays by check, so then you can plan to get your accountant involved also !
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Ronnie,where did you pay $180 for the solas flares?
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07-20-2010, 08:22 PM
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#9
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,690
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Quote:
Originally Posted by animal
Ronnie,where did you pay $180 for the solas flares?
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Yes,
Hamilton Marine
http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/brow...182/4,239.html
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LETS GO BRANDON
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