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				"Just last month, Mrs Obama flew to the Florida panhandle, a tourist draw hit hard by the oil spill crisis, and delivered the message that for parents ''looking for things to do with their kids this summer … this is a wonderful place to visit''. 
			
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 From what I heard this trip has been scheuled for some time. Would seem quite transparent to cancel your plans at the last second just for the appearance of it all.
 
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				From what I heard this trip has been scheuled for some time. Would seem quite transparent to cancel your plans at the last second just for the appearance of it all. 
 
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				I'll take "seeming transparency" over gluttonous hypocricy any time   ...just for the appearance of it all....  
			
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 If that's the case perhaps you should take your beef up with the US Secret Service. I can forward your info along if you'd like.
 
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				If that's the case perhaps you should take your beef up with the US Secret Service. I can forward your info along if you'd like. 
 
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				From what I heard this trip has been scheuled for some time. Would seem quite transparent to cancel your plans at the last second just for the appearance of it all. 
 
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		 Ronda is beautiful, hope they at least hiked the gorge.   
 
Another case of the right shooting themselves in the foot.  More death threats to this pres. than any other and then they cry like babies when the secret service spends $ to protect the family. 
 
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				Ronda is beautiful, hope they at least hiked the gorge.   
 
Another case of the rightnot just the right on this, particularly the foreign press(former fawners), criticism has been from all corners regarding the propensity for lavishness for these people balanced against their rhetoric shooting themselves in the foot.  More death threats to this pres than any other   prove it. and then they cry like babies when the secret service spends $ to protect the family. 
 
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		 Then what was the point of the first post?  
 
Look it up  yourselves, it has even been discussed here. 
 
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				Then what was the point of the first post?  
 
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 OK...here it is...I know that reading isn't your thing but you should try it before you taunt others..noone has suggested that the First Lady should not get Secret Service protection as you suggest, the question is about the extravagant travel, the expense of dragging the SS protection along and the appearance of it all at a time when their rhetoric has been to trash extravagant living....  
Michelle Obama today faced a fresh wave of attacks over her lavish break in Spain with 40 friends, which could easily cost U.S. taxpayers a staggering £50,000 a day. 
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		 She had 2 friends and I think 4 of their kids (who all travelled on commercial flights) not 40.  I read that they all paid their own way as did she (including food, room and transportation).  There were some of her aides but they were taken along b/c she will make a courtesy call to the king and queen.  The gov. pays for security and the secret service decides what is needed.  Look at Salty's 13th post (I believe) he was ranting about the security detail.  
 
I never said I don't read, I said I don't read obvious right/left wing articles. 
 
Maybe the posts swerved from the original post.  I almoststopped reading when someone complained how much vac. Pres. Obama took in his first year. I laughed at the hypocrisy and stopped reading.  
 
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 I almost stopped reading when someone complained how much vac. Pres. Obama took in his first year. I laughed at the hypocrisy and stopped reading.  
 
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so you percieve hypocricy in the complaint about Obama's vacation time and laugh..... but you see no hypocricy in the Obama's vacation time......interesting.... 
 
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The president was the first to walk onto the tarmac, dressed casually in a pale blue Oxford shirt and khakis. A few minutes later, the first lady, dressed in black capris, a tank-top and sandals, walked onto the runway. Shortly afterward, Malia and Sasha joined their parents. 
 
Baldacci and his wife, Karen, presented the family with gift bags full of Maine-made goodies, including baskets made by the Passamaquoddy Tribe, popcorn from Little Lad’s Bakery in East Corinth, iconic L.L. Bean bags, University of Maine ice hockey hats, and an assortment of other Maine foods and books. 
 
Karen Baldacci said the bags for Malia and Sasha contained one loon toy and one chickadee toy that sound their natural calls. 
 
Arriving in a small jet before the Obamas was the first dog, Bo, a Portuguese water dog given as a present by the late U.S. Sen Ted Kennedy, D-Mass.; and the president’s personal aide Reggie Love, who chatted with Baldacci. 
 
Bo has quite a "CARBON PAWPRINT" 
 
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		 There you go again showing your classlessness.  That didn't take long. 
		
		
		
		
		
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 I'll take that to mean that you've again lost the ability to provide a coherent thought...you can't provide evidence for the hypocricy that you percieve but simply assume it based on your ideaology...or something....and laugh..... and  can't see the obvious hypocricy that is staring you in the face....just admit it ...you are an Obamoron    
		
		
		
		
		
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				No, you can take it to mean that I think your classless. 
			
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				your sentences are getting shorter....not much left in the barrel aside from an occasional insult ....  ....typical    
			
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				Your like talking to the whiny little kid who has no friends, sometimes you talk to him, others times you don't bother   .  You just let him spoat off. 
 
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the thread goes south when the Obamoron has exhausted himself trying to defend the indefensible with regard to this president and fails to explain why criticizong his actions are "hypocritical" but his clearly hypocritical actions are not.......the list with this president is getting long and we're not two years in...you can only spin for so long before you get dizzy and fall down Paul...you should wear a helmet...
 
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				"spout" 
 
the thread goes south when the Obamoron has exhausted himself trying to defend the indefensible with regard to this president and fails to explain why criticizong his actions are "hypocritical" but his clearly hypocritical actions are not.......the list with this president is getting long and we're not two years in...you can only spin for so long before you get dizzy and fall down Paul...you should wear a helmet... 
 
when I think of "classy", I think of the photo of Obama with his feet up on the hallowed Resolute desk of the Oval Office...now that's "CLASSY"...or classless...as it were... 
			
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 Between your rampant mis-information, daily non sequitur rants, childish name calling and abuse of cut and paste...I'm not sure you're standing on firm ground to accuse anyone of failing to defend themselves.
 
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		 IMHO this is all crap. The first lady has a right to take a vacation where ever she wants and as a result of her husbands job, the US govt must spare no expense to protect her and her family. What would happen if they were kidnapped by some thugs? How much would that cost us then? Not only in $ but in credibility? 
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				IMHO this is all crap. The first lady has a right to take a vacation where ever she wants and as a result of her husbands job, the US govt must spare no expense to protect her and her family. What would happen if they were kidnapped by some thugs? How much would that cost us then? Not only in $ but in credibility? 
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The story being circulated is that Anita Blanchard, Michelle's obstetrician, lost her father recently, and supposedly, "Mrs. Obama was not able to make the funeral at the beginning of July." 
 
Does Michelle Obama rearrange the calendar only for vacations, but not for funerals?
 
Dr. Blanchard purportedly promised her daughter a trip to Spain for her birthday and invited Michelle and Sasha to tag along to spend post-funeral time together. So let's see...Michelle left Barack with Oprah Winfrey on his birthday to travel with baby doc Blanchard to one of Europe's poshest resorts.
 
How did the conversation unfold? "Oh Anita, I'm so sorry about your dad's untimely death. Let's assuage the grief by spending some girlfriend time eating tapas and chatting inside a canvas beach hut beside the sunny Mediterranean Sea." 
 
Sorry, but Michelle strutting through Marbella in a one-sleeved, black and white Jean Paul Gaultier top and oversized Chanel sunglasses doesn't exactly convey the message of a woman consoling a bereaved friend. Maybe it's just that Middle America is unacquainted with the Chicago funerary tradition of flamenco dancing a month after burying a parent.  
 
The White House is also saying that Mrs. Obama did not travel with three dozen close and intimate friends, as reported in the press. So why were sixty rooms reserved in the Villa Padierna for an average of $2,500 a night?
 
According to Mrs. Obama's spokeswoman Catherine McCormick Lelyvel, the grief getaway included "six White House advance staffers and two East Wing staffers, Deputy Chief of Staff Melissa Winter and Mrs. Obama's personal assistant, Kristen Jarvis."
 
In addition to the 250 security personnel supplied by the Spaniards, Mrs. Obama employed "three shifts of uniformed and plainclothes agents and military personnel flew with her on a big Air Force 757."  
 
In addition to attempting to clarify Michelle's trip, Lynn Sweet asked the obvious question: "So why did Mrs. Obama go to Spain at this time? She's not tone-deaf politically." Does the Washington Bureau Chief for Chicago Sun Times mean politically "tone-deaf" on the style of President Obama?  
 
In the article, entitled "Inside story of Michelle's trip," a probative Lynn Sweet inquired even further: "What was behind the 'mother-daughter' vacation?" You mean besides perusing exclusive shops, strutting around town in strappy Maison Martin Margiela sandals, sunning on a balmy beach, dining in exquisite restaurants, and paying homage to Spain's "cultural tribute to Muslims," the Alhambra Palace?
 
Presently, presidential spinmeisters are submerged in a campaign to head off trip-to-Spain flack and are answering Sweet's inquiries by saying Michelle "felt it was important as a dear friend"...to do what? Travel to a five-star resort, barricade off large swathes of a public Marbella beach, and flaunt the privileged perks of the elite in the face of struggling Americans?
 
Presidential apologist, shameless lackey, and White House press secretary Robert Gibbs was asked at a briefing if there was any concern about "the appearance" of Mrs. Obama's Spain trip.
 
With a straight face, Gibbs actually made the following, very private statement: "The first lady is on a private trip. She is a private citizen and is the mother of a daughter on a private trip. And I think I'd leave it at that."
 
Wrong! The day Michelle Obama launched the Let's Move governmental task force and became America's spokesperson/monitor for BMI and CEO of the fatty food patrol, the First Lady officially became a very public figure. 
 
This week, that same public figure expects America to swallow the story that $75,000 a day was spent on the Costa del Sol to console a bereaved friend, when overdue hugs and tears could have been shared in Washington, D.C. at no cost to the American taxpayer.  
		
		
		
		
		
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
 
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