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Old 12-05-2010, 10:14 PM   #1
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I lost my honey do list so I figure I got lots of spare time to make plugs.

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Old 12-12-2010, 08:08 AM   #2
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I lost my honey do list so I figure I got lots of spare time to make plugs.
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Old 12-05-2010, 11:16 PM   #3
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my wife puts my honey do on the "white board" on the fridge.... i suppose I can erase a few items......

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Old 12-12-2010, 04:41 PM   #4
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nice stuff. Snook Bait did a lot of those type poppers.

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Old 12-12-2010, 05:45 PM   #5
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Cool idea Eski.

Tail weighted like a pencil?

Can't wait to hear how it moves.
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:47 PM   #6
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My turn...

FINALLY! Tough finding cave time lately, especially when the cave is a 20 minute drive away.

G2 Skinny
These were the test run to check the template and set up.
Pine, not AYC, but that will be next.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:02 AM   #7
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FINALLY! Tough finding cave time lately, especially when the cave is a 20 minute drive away.

G2 Skinny
These were the test run to check the template and set up.
Pine, not AYC, but that will be next.
Up and at 'em men. Junior's hockey game is late today, so I figured I'd wake up with some plug chat.

Shaped 10 AYCs Friday night. :-)

And then broke the trunion mounts on the Delta bandsaw! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!

Have to wait until next weekend to cut and drill.

Will kill some of the time making a lip slot cutting jig, ala Rockfish or Prof, and a drilling jig ala Jiggy.

Suppose I should order some lips too.

Do I need to hydro orient the skinnies since they don' have any lead in them?
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Old 12-27-2010, 05:20 PM   #8
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Here's some stuff I've been working on. I played around with lip slot location and lip styles with these. I cut the slots on center, just above center and just below. Tried a small pikie and lefty 1 high slot on each. Can't really say one was better than another but I like the pikie lip on them with the slot centered. I need to tighten up the joint and will try Rocfish's method.



Been doing alot of handcarveds. I enjoy doing them but can only take so much at one time as they can be time consuming. I did a bunch of the redfin copies for a swap and people have told me they liked them. I had some fish on it also but did not get alot of fishing time in this year in the salt for one reason or another. The others are loose copies of G2's tiger and enticer. I was just trying to see if the enticer tail would push a bit more water that the normal tail. It's not built like his enticer which I believe swam deep and held in current using a different lip and may have been weighted. I just built it the same as the others looking for something different. The big ones are a shape I came up with. I have built them both ways with two belly hooks and one. The one belly hook starts up faster and has a bit wider tail swing than the two hook. I also built some with hangers and some with swivels. Much easier build with swivels. Other stuff is a bunch of smaller thin swimmers. I have foiled a couple of those. And a bunch of different size Big O styles.
















Numbskulls big popper thread got me interested in building a big [for me anyway] classic styled popper and this is what I came up with.




I had thinned out a surfster I have been making and like it's shape. Also made a couple chunky surfsters out of white cedar hoping to use the large surfster lip on them. I have not had much luck using the big surfster lip. I need to test these still with it as soon as I can find some open water.





Still have some other things I've had laying around that need to be tested just need to find some time.





Looking forward to Plugfest as usual.
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Old 12-27-2010, 05:44 PM   #9
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Greek,

I'm always amazed at how ALL of your work is so damn clean. Crazy how beautiful your stuff is even without paint.

Super sweet!
Love the skinny surfsters and I hope you post a bunch of thos foil jobs when the are painted.
Always enjoy looking at your builds.

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Old 12-12-2010, 08:17 PM   #10
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is that a G2 slim. If so they are a nice plug to make and fish. You will do good with those. I have not got anything real nice on one yet but a few people I have given them to over the last few years have.


That shape needle, pencil, will do good in the canal Frank.

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Old 12-13-2010, 12:53 PM   #11
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Cool idea Eski.

Tail weighted like a pencil?

Can't wait to hear how it moves.
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FINALLY! Tough finding cave time lately, especially when the cave is a 20 minute drive away.

G2 Skinny
These were the test run to check the template and set up.
Pine, not AYC, but that will be next.
yup, all tail weight.

The G2 clones look great.

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Old 12-14-2010, 03:39 PM   #12
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Nice stuff.

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Old 12-14-2010, 05:45 PM   #13
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Matt, I know you are a worse procrastinator than me, by just the slightest of margins, but you must have something to show us.

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Old 12-18-2010, 06:18 PM   #14
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All my stuff is half-baked er done.
Can't seem to finish anything.
Hopefully I'll have some done to trade with @ Plugfest.

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Old 12-19-2010, 09:12 AM   #15
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it is so quick to do and you only have a few plugs, I personally would do it.

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Old 12-19-2010, 11:31 AM   #16
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Seems dead around here.

Got a few things in the works....

A shallow running bottle, a early Pichney A40, a few popper clones (masterlure and bluestreak). There is more curve to the face of that bottle than the picture shows.

Then I've been fooling with small musso darters (pictured with their big brother for scale). Wood selection has proven trickier than expected.....turns out they were not maple. Got the jigs made, though.
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Old 12-20-2010, 10:23 AM   #17
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Seems dead around here.

Got a few things in the works....

A shallow running bottle, a early Pichney A40, a few popper clones (masterlure and bluestreak). There is more curve to the face of that bottle than the picture shows.

Then I've been fooling with small musso darters (pictured with their big brother for scale). Wood selection has proven trickier than expected.....turns out they were not maple. Got the jigs made, though.
I am trying them out of AYC

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Old 12-19-2010, 12:18 PM   #18
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From Prof M's

Thanks to Paul's "Book of Secrets" i got some Goo Goo's, Beachmaster Danny's and started on the Conrad Jr's( waiting for someone to get lip's in stock) this past week. Also some Nike's that need epoxy ( need to do another half dozen since they keep getting ho'ed. Small needle in tiger for a friend. Goo Goo's was an attempt at Masterlure color, but need a little more practice and try one in the blue color scheme.
Also got an early Christmas gift from my buddy for all the plugs I've made him this fall (see pic) and another on the way (QTC frame for my Chrome Rocket )
BTW, anyone know of J.K. Rush (NY) lures 40's-60's. Have seen a few of his plugs and they have possibilities.
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:36 PM   #19
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Nice work on the MasterLure color!!! Recognized it right away! You do some beautiful work Sarge!

Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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Numbskull-

What was the wood for the early Musso darters.. mahogany or pine?

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Old 12-19-2010, 03:47 PM   #22
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What was the wood for the early Musso darters.. mahogany or pine?
I don't know. The 3 oz ones are maple, but it is too heavy for the 1.5 oz 5" plug. Birch would weigh the same. Pine is too light (though might work if weighted right). I doubt Musso used mahogany. They might be basswood, although the stuff I tried came out light. Heavy darters don't swim so you have to get it right.
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I don't know. The 3 oz ones are maple, but it is too heavy for the 1.5 oz 5" plug. Birch would weigh the same. Pine is too light (though might work if weighted right). I doubt Musso used mahogany. They might be basswood, although the stuff I tried came out light. Heavy darters don't swim so you have to get it right.
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A couple of local LI guys duplicated that plug some years back with AYC and it worked pretty nice. I have had limited success with Red Cedar and a 00 buckshot 2/3rds of the way back (Digger gave me that trick). This was before i knew anything about plug building and I did the slopes by rough eye on the belt sander. I still know nothing and do the limited darters I have by hand on the belt sander. Some people never learn.
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A couple of local LI guys duplicated that plug some years back with AYC and it worked pretty nice. I have had limited success with Red Cedar and a 00 buckshot 2/3rds of the way back (Digger gave me that trick). This was before i knew anything about plug building and I did the slopes by rough eye on the belt sander. I still know nothing and do the limited darters I have by hand on the belt sander. Some people never learn.
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Pine/basswood with 7-8 grams 2/3 back floats right. I've not swum them yet. Soft wood darters wear quickly, however.
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Numby.. I will check with Steve Musso to see if he can ask his Dad

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sarge is that a cts blank? nice!
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Old 12-19-2010, 05:14 PM   #27
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I have alot of stuff in different stages.. I'm trying to turn a bunch of blanks so I can take a break from turning for a month, really starting to get sick of turning a bunch of the same stuff without a dupe.

Made a eel skin conrad Jr. and I'm not sure if I have the eel skin groove deep enough?
So far I have some polaris poppers,hab's needles,conrads, musso style needles, small donny's,bm dannys, and some pikies, a handcarve and some other stuff..Hopefully I have some stuff done for plugfest. Thanks to paul,george, and everyone who's been helping me out
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Made a eel skin conrad Jr. and I'm not sure if I have the eel skin groove deep enough?
Looks fine to me. I like a couple of wraps of fireline to attach the skin, but used to use #30 monel wire.
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sarge is that a cts blank? nice!
Yup, 11'6" and all of 7.8oz.....Going to cut to 11' and do clear wraps with single foots down to 3 double foots for my Abu Chrome rocket, strictly for pluggin. Hoping to keep the rod weight under 11-12oz.

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all the stuff looks great guys. I am just finishing up my main jig, fixture for doing my belly and wgt holes so i can do them at home on a drill press and not at work anymore. Too many really late nites after work. I do pretty much all my work off the belly holes so i need something that is going to allow me to be precision but also able to handle all the different shapes. I think I covered all the variables and need to start drilling some to find out. Also built a nice sub plate for the drill press table and a nice fence for setting up the jig. Glad it is done. All my turning is pretty much done for the season too. Now on to the more enjoyable stuff.

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