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UserRemoved · 03-16-2011, 06:54 AM

Will this be the "3am call".....

spence · 03-16-2011, 06:59 AM

You're just itching to make some really dumb Obama jabs huh?
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UserRemoved · 03-16-2011, 07:01 AM

NO Spence I'm asking a serious question. If I wanted to jab I would have said I think the guy is an idiot already. There's enough of that here.

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You're just itching to make some really dumb Obama jabs huh?
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UserRemoved · 03-16-2011, 07:03 AM

The US has been asked for help. There's always been talk about him handling a "3am" telephone call which many don't feel he's ever had in office.

Is this the 3am phone call.....

Let's hear your input Spence.

RIROCKHOUND · 03-16-2011, 07:17 AM

Scott;
What should he do beyond monitoring the situation and sending ships and supplies from neighboring areas? The US has survival and search and rescue efforts over there already. update: 12 ships and millions of pounds of food and medical supplies, plus they have been helping to ferry Japanese rescue teams around.

Beyond blind dislike/trust of this administration, WHAT should they be doing? Fly over there and hold their hands? go over and fix the reactors himself?

I'd rather the administration take a wait and see on a lot of the current issues. One of the best things this administration has been to not rush into Lybia, when many on both sides were pushing for it....

give me a break. damned if he does, and damned if he doesnt....

UserRemoved · 03-16-2011, 07:41 AM

What do I think should be done? I think they need to assemble a panel of nuke guys with the military and come up with a best case solution to present to these people that could help them end this disaster.

I got to believe that a Hercules could start flying some Quints in there to start dropping the mother of all water streams in there to cool this. Even pumps, they said yesterday that 4 out of 5 pumps they used were out of commission.....I'm sure pumps aren't growing on trees over there right now...

But your right Brian damned if he does something or doesn't...

RIROCKHOUND · 03-16-2011, 07:48 AM

1. I would wager that we already have our nuke experts offering opinions.

2. Have they been asked to do that? If this was happening at Seabrook would you expect Japan, or France, Germeny, (or any other country with Nuke power) to just start 'helping' with out being asked? Or should it just be we're the USA and we're here to help?

The Dad Fisherman · 03-16-2011, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Saltys

What do I think should be done? I think they need to assemble a panel of nuke guys with the military and come up with a best case solution to present to these people that could help them end this disaster.
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You mean like this....

US experts to help battle Japan's nuclear crisis

Mar 15 11:27 PM US/Eastern

Eight experts from the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission were to arrive Wednesday to help Japan battle its nuclear crisis, the foreign ministry said.
It said they would provide technical advice on managing the situation at the Fukushima No 1 atomic power plant 250 kilometres (155 miles) northeast of Tokyo.

A fresh fire broke out at the plant early Wednesday, compounding the emergency. It went out of its own accord later in the morning.

"The government of Japan will cooperate closely with these experts as it makes utmost efforts to solve the problems" at the plant, the ministry said in a statement.

Washington, a close ally of Tokyo, earlier sent a naval task force led by the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan to assist in relief after last Friday's devastating earthquake and tsunami.

The disasters knocked out cooling systems at the plant, causing fuel rods to overheat.

UserRemoved · 03-16-2011, 07:54 AM

1. maybe I dunno.

2. I personally wouldn't sit and watch on the sidelines...esp if it has a serious effect on my country.

I'd be there offering regardless. Maybe he has.

I'm still interested in hearing though if people think this will be "the call" that everyone has previously said has never happened.

UserRemoved · 03-16-2011, 07:56 AM

Brian btw I had a nice conversation with your buddy at the show the other day. Don't remember his name now but nice guy.

RIJIMMY · 03-16-2011, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

1. I would wager that we already have our nuke experts offering opinions.

2. Have they been asked to do that? If this was happening at Seabrook would you expect Japan, or France, Germeny, (or any other country with Nuke power) to just start 'helping' with out being asked? Or should it just be we're the USA and we're here to help?

They're a major ally and we should be doing all we can to help. we step in to help every dirt country where half the people want to see us dead. Maybe we are, I dont know. But I do feel that there seems to be less of a cry to help Japan than there was with Indonesia or Haiti. Maybe its just perception. Lets see if there are a bunch of relief concerts or hollywood lib do-gooders heading over there. That will tell me a lot. I hope so. I feel this is a time when we should step in, this is the good fight we should be fighting. Lets help those that deserve it.

RIJIMMY · 03-16-2011, 08:02 AM

this is good
United States

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-- White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said U.S. officials "stand ready to assist the Japanese ... in any way that we can."

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-- The U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) is coordinating the overall American response. The United States is also sending experts from the Department of Energy and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to offer technical assistance to the Japanese government.

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-- Eight U.S. Navy ships are now at work off the Japanese coast, with five more on the way in coming days and weeks, Pentagon spokesman Col. David Lapan said.

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-- Two search-and-rescue teams from the United States are working in the hard-hit coastal city of Ofunato, which was severely damaged in the quake.

RIROCKHOUND · 03-16-2011, 08:03 AM

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Brian btw I had a nice conversation with your buddy at the show the other day. Don't remember his name now but nice guy.

Someone from S-B? Did they say how they knew me? No one mentioned talking to some ugly bald guy at the show....

Jimmy: on top of what they (Administration) are doing now, what else would you guys like to see? Do you really think that this is it? hands washed, good luck Japan, see you when you recover? This is going to be a grind.

RIJIMMY · 03-16-2011, 08:22 AM

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Jimmy: on top of what they (Administration) are doing now, what else would you guys like to see? Do you really think that this is it? hands washed, good luck Japan, see you when you recover? This is going to be a grind.

I'd like to see a full court press. Tripping over ourselves trying to help Japan. Maybe we are, so I'm not being critical.
I think the US will be a partner in their recovery.

UserRemoved · 03-16-2011, 08:22 AM

I don't remember except he said he knew you and was going to hook up with you. Talked to too many people this weekend.

RIJIMMY · 03-16-2011, 08:31 AM

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I don't remember except he said he knew you and was going to hook up with you.

Bryan's next question - "gee, was he cute?"

RIROCKHOUND · 03-16-2011, 08:42 AM

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Bryan's next question - "gee, was he cute?"

No, rich. I'm a whore.

RIJIMMY · 03-16-2011, 08:44 AM

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No, rich. I'm a whore.

best comeback ever.

UserRemoved · 03-16-2011, 09:07 AM

'Military flying in US Navy pumping equipment in a last ditch effort to cool those rods in the nuke plant. Flying out of Yokota Air Base. Wish us luck!'

spence · 03-16-2011, 09:12 AM

This isn't a 3am call...while this is an epic disaster the simple fact that it's "over there" changes the game dramatically for Obama. The US will likely see global economic impact but I'm not sure this will be dramatic.

And it also seems like we're doing about all we can. This isn't one of those situations where you can just throw resources at a problem. It's quite possible that doing the wrong thing could be worse than doing nothing. It does sound like we've sent a lot of expertise already.

Additionally, Japan is a sovereign nation after all...

Let's just hope the remaining 50 can work some magic, from what I hear they're getting a lot of radiation and probably won't be around much longer. My heart goes out to them...

-spence

Raven · 03-16-2011, 01:48 PM

i was just watching a report on the news service about falsified
reports on the reactors cooling systems for the last decade.

This goes a long way to show why there is such
a big problem to correct.... when the sh1t hits the fan

justplugit · 03-16-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

i was just watching a report on the news service about falsified
reports on the reactors cooling systems for the last decade.

Yup, if Tepco is guilty of many violations and not informing the public
in Japan, where the people are very fastidious in what they do,
I wonder what safety violations have occurred in our country.

The new generation reactors are close to zero fallibility. Time to
rebuild our generators built in the 60's and 70's and build more to the new specs.
Keep them away from faults like where Indian Point was built.

scottw · 03-16-2011, 04:10 PM

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What should he do beyond monitoring the situation and sending ships and supplies from neighboring areas? WHAT should they be doing? Fly over there and hold their hands? go over and fix the reactors himself?

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actually, at trip to Rio would be really sweet right now.....

Obama Heads to Rio Sunday; Maximum Security Awaits
Mar. 14 2011 - 7:16 pm

UserRemoved · 03-16-2011, 04:18 PM

I SO wanted to post this earlier. I didn't want to get Spence more irritated

EPIC leadership

Can't wait to see how Spence spins this one. Probably some new trade agreement that they're going to sell 300,000,000 condoms to the people who live in Rio.

Ok now I'm poking the dragon

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

What should he do beyond monitoring the situation and sending ships and supplies from neighboring areas? WHAT should they be doing? Fly over there and hold their hands? go over and fix the reactors himself?

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actually, at trip to Rio would be really sweet right now.....

Obama Heads to Rio Sunday; Maximum Security Awaits
Mar. 14 2011 - 7:16 pm

RIROCKHOUND · 03-16-2011, 04:50 PM

Right... he should be over there in Japan with a hammer and a shovel helping out.

UserRemoved · 03-16-2011, 06:23 PM

damn straight

scottw · 03-16-2011, 06:37 PM

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Right... he should be over there in Japan with a hammer and a shovel helping out.

he'd break a fingernail for sure, that would be a National tragedy...probably be out of commission for 8 weeks...

RIROCKHOUND · 03-16-2011, 06:58 PM

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he'd break a fingernail for sure, that would be a National tragedy...probably be out of commission for 8 weeks...

Right. it's much better if he don's a flightsuit for a photo-op.

so, maybe he should have had hourly press conferences, keeping the Scott's updated on everything the US is doing to help... of course, then he'd be criticized for too much podium time, or using a telepropter, or maybe Booger should just go kick his dog....

scottw · 03-16-2011, 07:26 PM

Obama is the George Costanza of American presidents

striperman36 · 03-16-2011, 07:32 PM

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Obama is the George Costanza of American presidents

Now, really, George was much better at scheming than Barry.
Do you think there are pencils in the Oval Office Ceiling?