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stripermaineiac · 08-06-2011, 09:01 PM

Smart a-- LOL

WoodyCT · 08-06-2011, 09:19 PM

What I find interesting is that the guy listing his 50s is proving the point that a 50" fish can't weigh 80+ lbs., WHILE ARGUING THE OPPOSITE.

Not one of his 50"+/- bass went 75, or 65, or even 60 pounds, but we are being asked to believe that the CT fish went 82.
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Mike P · 08-06-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodyCT

What I find interesting is that the guy listing his 50s is proving the point that a 50" fish can't weigh 80+ lbs., WHILE ARGUING THE OPPOSITE.

Not one of his 50"+/- bass went 75, or 65, or even 60 pounds, but we are being asked to believe that the CT fish went 82.
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Jon--it's the girth that gives weight to a fish, not the length. That's why you square the girth, not the length, when you use the weight calculator. There are 50" fish that don't make it to 40 pounds, too. They're racers that are all head with no girth.

I can give you absolute proof that a low 50" fish can weigh over 75 lbs---Al McReynolds. That fish is well documented and it went 53-1/2", but with a massive girth at 35". At that length, it was a pound and a half short of 80 pounds. A 54" fish can easily go 80 lbs if it has the girth to go with it. Don't judge a fish's size by a bad picture. I've done it in the past and had to eat crow later.

CowHunter · 08-06-2011, 10:08 PM

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Jon--it's the girth that gives weight to a fish, not the length. That's why you square the girth, not the length, when you use the weight calculator. There are 50" fish that don't make it to 40 pounds, too. They're racers that are all head with no girth.

I can give you absolute proof that a low 50" fish can weigh over 75 lbs---Al McReynolds. That fish is well documented and it went 53-1/2", but with a massive girth at 35". At that length, it was a pound and a half short of 80 pounds. A 54" fish can easily go 80 lbs if it has the girth to go with it. Don't judge a fish's size by a bad picture. I've done it in the past and had to eat crow later.

If that fish was 54" and it had the girth of some of the fish Ive seen agreed.. I never said a 54" fish cant be 80.. A 49-50" fish, it would look like a footbal, 1 " Is a huge amount on a fish.. That fish doesnt have the broadness... No way. And yeah., I personally measured a 52" fish that was 35LBS on the Cape, thin as could be... Common Guys, This is supposed to be a world Record striped Bass, big news, bigger that OTW or FS, why the quietness and been nearly 48 Hours????

CowHunter · 08-06-2011, 10:31 PM

You guys all did read, weve been out of recession since 2009!

WoodyCT · 08-07-2011, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

Jon--it's the girth that gives weight to a fish, not the length. That's why you square the girth, not the length, when you use the weight calculator. There are 50" fish that don't make it to 40 pounds, too. They're racers that are all head with no girth.

I can give you absolute proof that a low 50" fish can weigh over 75 lbs---Al McReynolds. That fish is well documented and it went 53-1/2", but with a massive girth at 35". At that length, it was a pound and a half short of 80 pounds. A 54" fish can easily go 80 lbs if it has the girth to go with it. Don't judge a fish's size by a bad picture. I've done it in the past and had to eat crow later.

I understand that Mike, but has the girth of this fish been made public?

And do we have an accurate length yet?

Hypothetical weight calculations hold little water, just as a 'certified weight' is meaningless without opening the fish up.
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cheferson · 08-07-2011, 06:01 AM

That pic just posted looks legit to me! Especially when compared to Vican's fish . Look at the guys track record and reputation ....

Some of you guys are ridiculous with your comments .

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buckman · 08-07-2011, 08:30 AM

Huge fish and it may be a record but I have to agree,it's not 54". Blame the photographer if you like. Now my biggest was 46# so I really only have the pictures to judge.

westhavendave · 08-07-2011, 08:40 AM

All this talk about the fishes length is meaningless, we are talking about a weight record here. The IGFA will have the last word, leave it at that before questioning someones character.

bloocrab · 08-07-2011, 08:41 AM

If someone posted a picture of a 50lb. fish that the majority of the people found hard to believe based on several pictures along with some odd story-details, that person would get similar results in this silly virtual world of ours....this being a possilbe WR, it's just that much higher on the totem pole in and outside the inter-fishnet, in either case...no websitez is going to make someone cut a fish open for our own credibility approval. Like others have said, time will decide how this pans out. Hopefully, the powers that be, if and when it receives a WR title recognition, will clear up any possibility of discrepency.....otherwise....it will always have...

In seeing some of the pics, they do raise my eye-brows too,,, but I'm no visual expert to actually call it BS. It's a Super-Cow for sure, but the actual Holy Grail? Time will tell. My jury is still out for now.

Nice fish either way Mr. Meyerson.

Slipknot · 08-07-2011, 09:11 AM

Come on is spelled come on not common

Jenn, good one

a 25 lb bass has a mouth 5" across so I don't know what is up with that picture.

I guess if you are going to submit a fish for a record, you better be prepared for all kinds of possibilities to remove all doubt. I know I would have gone to several weigh stations and after driving around with it mounted to my front grille

, I'd allow it to be cut open if questioned. And I would not allow anyone but my professional photographer brother to shoot pics of me and the fish, any pics would then be copyrighted.

JohnR · 08-07-2011, 10:13 AM

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And I thought women were catty.....

stripermaineiac · 08-07-2011, 10:30 AM

The point about the fish I stated is that Charlie Churches fish 73lb was 53 in and Charlie cintos fish-73 lb was in there too along with Al's fish 78 lb.You can't just go by length. I've taken 7 bunker over 2lbs each out of a fish along with a lobster an some crabs.MMMMM they have a huge ability to gorge themselves balooning their weight over 20 plus pounds when the food is available and not getting an inch longer.

Mike P · 08-07-2011, 12:26 PM

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The point about the fish I stated is that Charlie Churches fish 73lb was 53 in and Charlie cintos fish-73 lb was in there too along with Al's fish 78 lb.You can't just go by length. I've taken 7 bunker over 2lbs each out of a fish along with a lobster an some crabs.MMMMM they have a huge ability to gorge themselves balooning their weight over 20 plus pounds when the food is available and not getting an inch longer.

Well, Charlie's about 5'6", so the fish looked a lot longer when he was holding it.

In any event--Ken, don't take this as directed at you, because it's not. But this thread, in general, re-enforces my thinking that getting out of the Striper Cup, and tournaments in geneal besides my local "bragging rights only" one, was the right thing to do. There's more to life than fishing, and this stuff really isn't worth getting worked up over. If this isn't legit, then Mr. Myerson has to live with himself knowing he lived a lie. If it is legit, we kind of look like petty little children.

Part of me also wonders whether the reason for Al McReynolds to have so many demons chasing him over the years, to the point where he says his fish ruined his life, had to do with something amiss about the circumstances of the catch, and him having to live with knowing all those naysayers were right after all. I want to believe that Al really did catch the fish from the rocks on a legal terminal rig. I do believe it, but they'll always be a part of me that wonders, just based on what I know about human nature and the way he's acted over the years. I know that Charlie Cinto never lost a second of sleep over the fact that his fish wasn't eligible for the official record because the lure and line weren't legal. Charlie always enjoyed, and still enjoys, that fish for what it was. As does Tony Stetzlo, even though his 73 was never a record.

Take my advice--trust the woman's perspective here. They have this stuff prioritized better than those of us who carry more testosterone in our systems.

WoodyCT · 08-07-2011, 12:27 PM

The belly has depth, but she doesn't look like she's stuffed with bunker.

If she is 54" long, then her girth would need to be 35" to be 82lbs..

If she is 50", then her girth would need to be 36".
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Mike P · 08-07-2011, 01:01 PM

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The belly has depth, but she doesn't look like she's stuffed with bunker.

If she is 54" long, then her girth would need to be 35" to be 82lbs..

If she is 50", then her girth would need to be 36".
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Kierran saw the fish. None of the rest of us have. We're operating off pictures, and a lot of them aren't so good. Kierran has the best pictures, IMO.

If Crafty Angler still posted here, he could tell you the saga of me and Big #^&#^&#^&#^& Tremblay, when I questioned the size of Big #^&#^&#^&#^&'s fish based on a bad picture. Fish often look smaller, and thinner, when the guy holding them is a big dude, and Big #^&#^&#^&#^& Tremblay was even bigger than Myerson. Uncle Crafty gave me the needle for months afterwards.

Like I said above--my father knew Charlie Cinto, and Charlie gave him a picture of himself with his 73 pounder. Charlie's a little guy, and his fish looks like it's easily over 5' long when Charlie's holding it up. In reality, it was only 54-55 inches long. Al McReynolds is short and stocky, which also exaggerated the size of his fish, which was "only" 53-1/2" long.

Thankfully, I'm a skinny dude nowaday, so even though I'm on the tall side, a racer would look like it had the girth of an oil drum in my WR pictures.

Nebe · 08-07-2011, 01:11 PM

Dont forget the pics of Iron Mike and his 60 lber.. small dude.. HUGE FISH

cheferson · 08-07-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodyCT

The belly has depth, but she doesn't look like she's stuffed with bunker.

If she is 54" long, then her girth would need to be 35" to be 82lbs..

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I can see that . My 42lb had a 28" girth ,and it looks like a minnow compared to that fish !

Sea Dangles · 08-07-2011, 06:31 PM

Why does woody keep talking about CT fish?Nowhere else has consistent fishing like CT besides the Block,August included.
Cowhunter obviously has a boner for Myerson because of the fact he beat him out last year for Angler of the Year. This is petty jealousy and nothing more and regardless of the outcome, it makes Kenny seem like nothing less than a sore loser.He hasn't posted for a while but he is burning the phones and internet trying to discredit this accomplishment.I hope he gets the record just so Ken can eat crow.This way he and all his sycophants will have have whined in vain.If the shoe were on the other foot,and someday it could be,he would recruit more help to surround him.Go cry to On The Water,but they have to play by their own rules and not make exceptions to appease the masses.
I agree with MikeP,this cheaters tournament was tarnished a long time ago and I am glad I got out when I did.

CowHunter · 08-07-2011, 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=Sea Dangles;877908]Why does woody keep talking about CT fish?Nowhere else has consistent fishing like CT besides the Block,August included.

Cowhunter obviously has a boner for Myerson because of the fact he beat him out last year for Angler of the Year. This is petty jealousy and nothing more and regardless of the outcome, it makes Kenny seem like nothing less than a sore loser.He hasn't posted for a while but he is burning the phones and internet trying to discredit this accomplishment.I hope he gets the record just so Ken can eat crow.This way he and all his sycophants will have have whined in vain.If the shoe were on the other foot,and someday it could be,he would recruit more help to surround him.Go cry to On The Water,but they have to play by their own rules and not make exceptions to appease the masses.

Wasnt even close to Angler of the year, not even in top 5... There were more deserving anglers putting more time in than I was...

I guess when some 60% of the people on the other sites poll see it as BS they are stupid? Monicas fluke was a world record too, everybody that was disputing that was stupid too... This is way above OTW and F&S, this is a World record striped bass we are talking about and the behavior that went along with this fish was extremely suspicious! The pictures do even more to discredit the fish, but I completely understand just how normal all his other fish looked along with this one and just how normal his behavior was. I know youve seen your share and wieghed your share of 40's, 50's and 60's. You can honestly say from all the Photos, interviews from freelance writers who want a story, you are 100% convinced with no doubt that something is a miss? Have you even spoke with anybody thats seen the fish? Its not about jealousy at all, I know I have a better chances of winning a lottery than catching a world record! What injustice would be done to the current World and state records if in fact something was not right here???

Here Chris, You and Greg Meyerson can learn from a much more intelligent person on the proper proceedure of filing for a world record. No Panic Attacks, ER Visits, Games, leader stories, Red mushy or disapearing fish, running from the tackle shops or the press, and no DRAMA, a truly appreciating and deserving angler. Shes only 14, knows how to use a camera, measuring tape and understanding length to fork, length to tip, and girth. followed simple, yet extremely complicated instructions for some. I am confident in saying that probably 100% of striped bass anglers couldnt be happier for a more deserving Angler!

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/n...cc4c03286.html

All the Best to You Chris! I hope that you may catch an 80 one day! My days of Com fishing and charters in New England are over bud...

Nebe · 08-07-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Why does woody keep talking about CT fish?Nowhere else has consistent fishing like CT besides the Block,August included.

Cowhunter obviously has a boner for Myerson because of the fact he beat him out last year for Angler of the Year. This is petty jealousy and nothing more and regardless of the outcome, it makes Kenny seem like nothing less than a sore loser.He hasn't posted for a while but he is burning the phones and internet trying to discredit this accomplishment.I hope he gets the record just so Ken can eat crow.This way he and all his sycophants will have have whined in vain.If the shoe were on the other foot,and someday it could be,he would recruit more help to surround him.Go cry to On The Water,but they have to play by their own rules and not make exceptions to appease the masses.

Wasnt even close to Angler of the year, not even in top 5... There were more deserving anglers putting more time in than I was...

I guess when some 60% of the people on the other sites poll see it as BS they are stupid? Monicas fluke was a world record too, everybody that was disputing that was stupid too... This is way above OTW and F&S, this is a World record striped bass we are talking about and the behavior that went along with this fish was extremely suspicious! The pictures do even more to discredit the fish, but I completely understand just how normal all his other fish looked along with this one and just how normal his behavior was. I know youve seen your share and wieghed your share of 40's, 50's and 60's. You can honestly say from all the Photos, interviews from freelance writers who want a story, you are 100% convinced with no doubt that something is a miss? Have you even spoke with anybody thats seen the fish? Its not about jealousy at all, I know I have a better chances of winning a lottery than catching a world record! What injustice would be done to the current World and state records if in fact something was not right here???

Here Chris, You and Greg Meyerson can learn from a much more intelligent person on the proper proceedure of filing for a world record. No Panic Attacks, ER Visits, Games, leader stories, Red mushy or disapearing fish, running from the tackle shops or the press, and no DRAMA, a truly appreciating and deserving angler. Shes only 14 and I, and probably 100% of striped bass anglers couldnt be happier for a more deserving Angler!

It's official: Vineland girl's 58.29-pound striped bass is a world record - pressofAtlanticCity.com: Breaking News

All the Best to You Chris! I hope that you may catch an 80 one day!

"Once they did, the true measure of the monster became apparent - it was 54 inches long and had a girth of 32 inches. "

That fish was 58 lbs.. Does anyone know the girth on the 81 lb fish??

WoodyCT · 08-07-2011, 06:33 PM

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I can see that . My 42lb had a 28" girth ,and it looks like a minnow compared to that fish !

Got that by reworking the length-girth formula....

(Girth x Girth x Length) / 800 = Weight

SO ...

Girth = Square Root of (Weight x 800) / Length

Please check me on this!!!

PS I keep mentioning CT fish??? So CT is a striper hot bed like BI?? I want some of what you smoke Chris!

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MagicWand · 08-07-2011, 01:23 PM

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piemma · 08-07-2011, 01:32 PM

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Good Post

WoodyCT · 08-07-2011, 02:14 PM

Kierran's pics are the best ones in my opinion Mike. They definitely show the fish is BIG.

I hope it all works out for the angler.

And I hope all the big fish chasers learn that with a little forethought they can save themselves a load of grief when going public with a big, big bass.1) Measure the length and girth as accurately and precisely as possible, and document with good photos, 2) Never show pictures that could be misleading or misinterpretted, 3) Open the fish up, with multiple, reliable, impartial witnesses present if the measured weight and calculated weight don't seem to jive... In short, dot the "I's", cross the "T's", and be as transparent as possible when seeking glory via a big bass.

Good luck Greg!
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tysdad115 · 08-07-2011, 02:22 PM

If I were ever to catch big fish, I would let him go. Larrys a good guy and wouldn't look good on my wall..
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BMEUPSCOTTY · 08-07-2011, 10:10 PM

The worst thing about these threads is the effin holier than thou asshats just lurking along so they can pounce on whoever doesn't share their opinion. One in particular... Swear to God I've never seen him post anything positive about anything or anyone but himself and his inflated sense of the worth of his opinion... Stfu already..
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UserRemoved1 · 08-08-2011, 03:59 AM

ok I will