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11-20-2011, 04:54 PM
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Barack must be desperate for voters...
...to send Michelle and Jill to a NASCAR race to promote Joining Forces.While Joining Forces is a great cause,all you Obama worshipers who think the primary reason for this was the troops I would ask what planet do you live on?This was done for one reason and one reason only.....image and votes come Nov.'12.Pathetic is our president.
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11-20-2011, 07:26 PM
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11-20-2011, 07:49 PM
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Can't come soon enough !
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11-20-2011, 07:52 PM
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NASCAR fans vote!?
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11-21-2011, 05:23 AM
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11-21-2011, 08:04 AM
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she got like 5-10 min of interview time. Thank god for DVRs. At least Biden's wife seems smarter than her husband.
I bet in 2013 Romney will drive the motorcoach down.
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11-21-2011, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by basswipe
...to send Michelle and Jill to a NASCAR race to promote Joining Forces.While Joining Forces is a great cause,all you Obama worshipers who think the primary reason for this was the troops I would ask what planet do you live on?This was done for one reason and one reason only.....image and votes come Nov.'12.Pathetic is our president.
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Wipe.
Joining Forces is an initiative created by the Obama Administration to help support our troops and their families. Michelle and Jill are the White House spokespeople.
Pretty classy for the NASCAR fans to denigrate their efforts, it sounds like you would have been right along side them.
-spence
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11-21-2011, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by basswipe
...to send Michelle and Jill to a NASCAR race to promote Joining Forces.While Joining Forces is a great cause,all you Obama worshipers who think the primary reason for this was the troops I would ask what planet do you live on?This was done for one reason and one reason only.....image and votes come Nov.'12.Pathetic is our president.
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90% of Nascar fans are ot going to Vote for Obama.
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
Spot NAZI
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11-21-2011, 11:27 AM
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They went to the World Series as well to promote this initiave....My guess is you will probably see them at the Superbowl too.
of all the real issues people can have with the current administration (i.e. Economy, Healthcare, Spending, etc.) to boo the 1st and 2nd ladies for standing up there to promote helping returning verterans and there families, while they are standing there w/ a wounded vet and his family, is pretty friggin lame IMHO.
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11-21-2011, 01:15 PM
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They went to the World Series as well to promote this initiave....My guess is you will probably see them at the Superbowl too.
of all the real issues people can have with the current administration (i.e. Economy, Healthcare, Spending, etc.) to boo the 1st and 2nd ladies for standing up there to promote helping returning verterans and there families, while they are standing there w/ a wounded vet and his family, is pretty friggin lame IMHO.
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Watch the video. The wounded vet got huge applause. The boos were reserved for Michelle, and they were richly deserved, in my opinion.
I'm a vet, and I would happily welcome any chance to boo, hiss, or otherwise heckle the first lady, and I'd sleep like a baby that night. She is utterly reprehensible. Her comment during the 2008 campaign, that Barack's nomination was "the first time in my adult life that I was proud of my country", tells you everything you need to know about her and her values. That comment is indefensible.
Personally, I'm hoping that in January 2013, she goes right back to not being proud of this country.
Laura Bush was 1st Lady for 8 years, I don't remember her getting boos in huge numbers, anywhere.
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11-21-2011, 01:41 PM
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I did watch the video and I know he got a huge applause.....And I'm a vet and I still stand by it...Friggin Lame
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11-21-2011, 01:44 PM
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Laura Bush was 1st Lady for 8 years, I don't remember her getting boos in huge numbers, anywhere.
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She did...at Obama's inauguration....and that was Friggin Lame too...
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11-21-2011, 01:58 PM
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I think its lame she was booed. I never agree with her or her husband, but she was there for the right reasons and no one makes her do these things.
This petty crap is ruining america. we cant get anything done because everyone just wants the other side to fail. Look at this debt super-commission. You would be fired in my company if you went away for 3 months to solve a problem and came back with nothing. Inexcusable. Lou Dobbs had a great rant a few years back about americas lack of getting things done, I wish I could find it.
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11-21-2011, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
I think its lame she was booed. I never agree with her or her husband, but she was there for the right reasons and no one makes her do these things.
This petty crap is ruining america. we cant get anything done because everyone just wants the other side to fail. Look at this debt super-commission. You would be fired in my company if you went away for 3 months to solve a problem and came back with nothing. Inexcusable. Lou Dobbs had a great rant a few years back about americas lack of getting things done, I wish I could find it.
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11-21-2011, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Watch the video. The wounded vet got huge applause. The boos were reserved for Michelle, and they were richly deserved, in my opinion.
I'm a vet, and I would happily welcome any chance to boo, hiss, or otherwise heckle the first lady, and I'd sleep like a baby that night. She is utterly reprehensible. Her comment during the 2008 campaign, that Barack's nomination was "the first time in my adult life that I was proud of my country", tells you everything you need to know about her and her values. That comment is indefensible.
Personally, I'm hoping that in January 2013, she goes right back to not being proud of this country.
Laura Bush was 1st Lady for 8 years, I don't remember her getting boos in huge numbers, anywhere.
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wow, you really come across as miserable (and petty also).
Calling a woman a "half beast" and other demeaning things says a lot about your values.
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
I think its lame she was booed. I never agree with her or her husband, but she was there for the right reasons and no one makes her do these things.
This petty crap is ruining america. we cant get anything done because everyone just wants the other side to fail.
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Totally agree. Each side would rather have the other side seem as failing rather than doing what is best for the country.
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11-21-2011, 06:33 PM
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11-23-2011, 07:51 AM
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wow, you really come across as miserable (and petty also).
Calling a woman a "half beast" and other demeaning things says a lot about your values.
Totally agree. Each side would rather have the other side seem as failing rather than doing what is best for the country.
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"wow, you really come across as miserable (and petty also)."
I hear what you, TDF, and RIJIMMY are saying, and there's a lot to be said for civility. However, the Obamas have made it abundantly clear what they think of blue collar folks who live in rural America. You know, those of us who cling to our guns and religion because we are bitter and, of course, racist (for which Obama's excuse was that he didn't know he was being recorded, and that was a good enough excuse for liberals). The people who follow NASCAR are the exact same folks that our President and first lady like to belittle, so forgive me if I don't feel obliged to kneel down and kiss her ring. This isn't England (yet), they're not royalty, and we are not their subjects. They work for us, not the other way around.
'Calling a woman a "half beast" and other demeaning things says a lot about your values. "
The only value on display here is my unwillingness to do fake-nice. Maddow has, on countless occasions, referred to people like me as tea bagging racists. So again, I make no apologies for treating her in similar fashion.
Funny. I only hear cries for civility when conservatives act boorish, never when feral liberals run wild.
Last night, my golden retriever and I did our weekly visit to a hospice patient who wanted to see a friendly dog again. I'll put my tradiitonal Irish-Catholic values up against the liberal platform any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. But that doesn't mean I'm going to let anyone piss down my back and then tell me it's raining.
"rather than doing what is best for the country"
Gimme a break. If someone feels that our debt is a legitimate threat to our survival, why would they ever agree to letting Obama flush another trillion dollars down the toilet on failed stimulus programs? Amazing. During the last few years of the Bush administration, the Democrats didn't exactly roll over and let him do whatever he wanted. Liberals like to say that dissent "is the highest form of patriotism", but clearly they only feel that way when THEY are obstructing conservatives. When conservatives dissent, it's the lowest form of racism.
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11-23-2011, 08:31 AM
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Jim for president 2012
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11-23-2011, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"wow, you really come across as miserable (and petty also)."
I hear what you, TDF, and RIJIMMY are saying, and there's a lot to be said for civility. However, the Obamas have made it abundantly clear what they think of blue collar folks who live in rural America. You know, those of us who cling to our guns and religion because we are bitter and, of course, racist (for which Obama's excuse was that he didn't know he was being recorded, and that was a good enough excuse for liberals). The people who follow NASCAR are the exact same folks that our President and first lady like to belittle, so forgive me if I don't feel obliged to kneel down and kiss her ring. This isn't England (yet), they're not royalty, and we are not their subjects. They work for us, not the other way around.
amazing isn't it that after expressing so much disdain for this country and in particular those that are typical, white and cling to guns and religoen...that they ever get booed...hard to fathom I suppose if you look down you nose at others long enough you ought not be surprised when they give you the finger...and even worse to then feign surprise and dismay
'Calling a woman a "half beast" and other demeaning things says a lot about your values. "
The only value on display here is my unwillingness to do fake-nice. Maddow has, on countless occasions, referred to people like me as tea bagging racists. So again, I make no apologies for treating her in similar fashion. as usual, it's OK for the lib to descend to the gutter but don't you dare point it out, mock or criticize or you are the bad guy....neat trick
Funny. I only hear cries for civility when conservatives act boorish, never when feral liberals run wild. again...neat trick...though, I guess if you have no standards you can't be held accountable for double standards
Last night, my golden retriever and I did our weekly visit to a hospice patient who wanted to see a friendly dog again. I'll put my tradiitonal Irish-Catholic values up against the liberal platform any day of the week, and twice on Sunday. But that doesn't mean I'm going to let anyone piss down my back and then tell me it's raining.
"rather than doing what is best for the country"
Gimme a break. If someone feels that our debt is a legitimate threat to our survival, why would they ever agree to letting Obama flush another trillion dollars down the toilet on failed stimulus programs? Amazing. During the last few years of the Bush administration, the Democrats didn't exactly roll over and let him do whatever he wanted. Liberals like to say that dissent "is the highest form of patriotism", but clearly they only feel that way when THEY are obstructing conservatives. When conservatives dissent, it's the lowest form of racism.
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one side is bent on Nanny State Socialism...the other is attempting to maintain or return to our Constitutional Republic and founding principles at least to some degree, they happen to be polar opposites ..hard to figure out why they can't come to an agreement
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11-23-2011, 08:39 AM
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Jim for president 2012
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Thanks!
However, I divert all of my support to Newt, the most brilliant, skilled politician the planet has seen, since Churchill.
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11-23-2011, 09:05 AM
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"as usual, it's OK for the lib to descend to the gutter but don't you dare point it out, mock or criticize or you are the bad guy....neat trick"-
No, I think anyone who refers to woman as "half beast" has a problem w/woman in general and is a scum bag whether they are lib or cons.
So show me where any "lib" here has called woman such demeaning names as Jim.
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11-23-2011, 09:37 AM
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"So show me where any "lib" here has called woman such demeaning names as Jim.
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Paul - not a good battle to fight. "on here" may require some digging but as far as conservative women in the media, this is just from this week. BTW - Fishbone is my favorite band, but to play a song titlled Lyin A$$ Beyotch when Bachmann comes on stage is disgusting. AS Jim points out the libs will laugh it off but if it was on the other foot it would be a huge deal. Where are the feminists, uproar?
Fallon, band welcome Bachmann with pointed song
6:45 a.m. CST, November 23, 2011
NEW YORK— A Democratic congresswoman says NBC should apologize for its "insulting and inappropriate" treatment of Republican presidential contender Michele Bachmann when she appeared on Jimmy Fallon's late-night talk show.
As Bachmann was introduced on the show early Tuesday, house band The Roots played a snippet of a 1985 Fishbone song called "Lyin' Ass B----."
"No female politician -- and no woman -- should be subjected to sexist and offensive innuendo like she was last night," Lowey said.
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11-23-2011, 09:52 AM
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Thats pretty friggin Lame too....
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11-23-2011, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
"as usual, it's OK for the lib to descend to the gutter but don't you dare point it out, mock or criticize or you are the bad guy....neat trick"-
No, I think anyone who refers to woman as "half beast" has a problem w/woman in general and is a scum bag whether they are lib or cons.
So show me where any "lib" here has called woman such demeaning names as Jim.
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The liberals were SO respectful of Sarah Palin in 2008. Barack Obama on Sarah Palin..."you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig". Look at the photos that MSNBC uses of Bachman or Palin, please.
The "libs here" support the slaughter of 4,000 unborn babies a day. Let's assume half of those are women. Who cares more for them?
Paul, I can go on all day. How much time do you have?
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11-23-2011, 10:02 AM
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Thats pretty friggin Lame too....
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we've become a country of "lame"
I dont want to blame everything on "O" but I think his attitude has made it worse.
One thing I can say for Romney is he is a mature and moral person and believe he would bring dignity back to the office.
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11-23-2011, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
we've become a country of "lame"
I dont want to blame everything on "O" but I think his attitude has made it worse.
One thing I can say for Romney is he is a mature and moral person and believe he would bring dignity back to the office.
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Its Sad...really is
"O" is just a part of the problem....every person that exploits the divide between people, whether it is for Political, Monetary, Religous, or Ratings Gains is a part of the problem.
We can only hope that SOMEONE can bring dignity back...these past 3 presidents sure as hell didn't do a lot for that cause.
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11-23-2011, 10:46 AM
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we've become a country of "lame"
One thing I can say for Romney is he is a mature and moral person and believe he would bring dignity back to the office.
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Like taking a quote WAY out of context in an ad and then basically saying, so what... he may be mature and dignified, but someone on his staff isn't at least..
I also thought, besides the intro, Bachman did pretty well on Fallon....
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-23-2011, 10:46 AM
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RIJ - I agree 100% w/you. Totally wrong.
My point is there are people on both sides who think nothing of insulting the other side. For the most part, it doesn't happen here. Jim seems to think it is appropriate.
Congress will continue to have 9% approval ratings until things change.
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11-23-2011, 11:02 AM
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Its Sad...really is
"O" is just a part of the problem....every person that exploits the divide between people, whether it is for Political, Monetary, Religous, or Ratings Gains is a part of the problem.
We can only hope that SOMEONE can bring dignity back...these past 3 presidents sure as hell didn't do a lot for that cause.
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What did Bush 43 do that was undignified? From wher I sat, I thought he was too dignified, because he always let liberals insult him, and he never fought back.
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11-23-2011, 11:06 AM
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RIJ - I agree 100% w/you. Totally wrong.
My point is there are people on both sides who think nothing of insulting the other side. For the most part, it doesn't happen here. Jim seems to think it is appropriate.
Congress will continue to have 9% approval ratings until things change.
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Paul, you called me a "scum bag", and 5 minutes later, you're saying that I'm the only one who thinks it's OK to insult people.
Paul, please get off your high horse. Maddow's actions provoked me into insulting her, and my actions provoked you into insulting me. From where I sit, you and I are both equally guilty of insulting those with whom we disagree, so I fail to see from where you assume the moral high ground on this issue.
Good luck responding to that.
Unbelievable.
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