Obama's Healthcare

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

You might have answered your own question in your previous post:

So then the whole premise of the original post is invalid. I wasn't even 100% sure it was since the details of it are nonexistent, but I am glad to find out that I was correct.
I think I will call up one of the national right wing wack jobs and tell them "as a youngish aged Christian, my health care costs have gone up 300% since the law passed, and the moon slowed its orbit around the Earth." That'll get em going.

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by zimmy

So then the whole premise of the original post is invalid. I wasn't even 100% sure it was since the details of it are nonexistent, but I am glad to find out that I was correct.
I think I will call up one of the national right wing wack jobs and tell them "as a youngish aged Christian, my health care costs have gone up 300% since the law passed, and the moon slowed its orbit around the Earth." That'll get em going.

U R not correct!

[Fly Rod]

Here it is Zimmy:

Christian College Says ObamaCare Will Double Insurance Costs | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes

and you can not just go by the state of Maine, did they invent the "Tooth Brush."

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

Here it is Zimmy:

Christian College Says ObamaCare Will Double Insurance Costs | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes

and you can not just go by the state of Maine, did they invent the "Tooth Brush."

Too bad the article doesn't specifically state why the cost increased at this school. What component of the law went in to effect that changed the premium? Did the school have other options available that the school chose not to pursue?

"The college said even though students will pay a higher price, they will also get better benefits. The letter to students explained that the $115 per month charge is “particularly inexpensive compared to the cost of most plans (usually at $400 per month for an individual).”

I wonder how many of these basic questions fox news asked? Almost certainly, none. Better to run with it since it fits the mantra of farse and unbalanced news.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Too bad the article doesn't specifically state why the cost increased at this school. What component of the law went in to effect that changed the premium? Did the school have other options available that the school chose not to pursue?

"The college said even though students will pay a higher price, they will also get better benefits. The letter to students explained that the $115 per month charge is “particularly inexpensive compared to the cost of most plans (usually at $400 per month for an individual).”

I wonder how many of these basic questions fox news asked? Almost certainly, none. Better to run with it since it fits the mantra of farse and unbalanced news.

Zimmy, how is this for you?

Non-Partisan CBO Director Says ObamaCare Will Raise Costs | Speaker.gov

Some quotes...

"Douglas Elmendorf, the independent, non-partisan head of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) provided further confirmation that ObamaCare will increase health care costs"

" Towers Watson study, which found near unanimity among businesses that ObamaCare will accelerate health care costs"

"devastating report by the Obama Administration’s own Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) that concluded the law will raise Americans’ health care costs"

Zimmy, how much evidence do you need, in addition to basic common sense, before you admit that ObamaCare will increase costs?

I'm not saying that spending money to save people is bad...quite the contrary. Bush spent a ton of money in Africa to fight AIDS, and he is credited with saving one million lives in Africa. That's money well spent, in my opinion. If my taxes increase to save one million lives, great!

I'm not upset, in and of itself, that Obamacare will cost more. I'm upset that Obama said with a straight face that it would lower costs. Everyone not blinded by ideology knew that was wrong, and now we have a Himalayan mountain of evidence to prove it's wrong. Zimmy, I don't think even Obama is still claiming costs will go down. But you go on believing it, just because it makes him look good.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

But you go on believing it, just because it makes him look good.

Come on Jim, I would think you are smarter than that. I didn't say I even believed him To me it is the least important issue of the health care law. What I want to see is one real piece of evidence that the doubled price of insurance for the kid in the first article was because of the health care law, which mostly goes into effect in 2014. The link you post doesn't do that either. Did anyone ever learn the basics of data analysis. Correlation does not mean causation. If it is true, I will be the first to say it, but someone please find an actual connection between the Fox Spews report and the law. There are 1000's of pages of actual climate data that the right completely disregards as a global conspiracy for people who "want" global warming, yet when stuff like this pointless article come up, no one wants data to know if it is actually true?