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09-01-2012, 10:40 AM
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I don't think there's any way you can't look at the Ryan plan and not see that it will disproportionately benefit the wealthy while taking away from the middle class and poor. Even if middle class tax deductions are spared, there would still have to be significant spending cuts for programs the upper-middle class and wealthy don't depend on...and to sustain high defense spending which is part of the Ryan plan.
-spence
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09-01-2012, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I don't think there's any way you can't look at the Ryan plan and not see
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that's a mouthful  |
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09-01-2012, 12:31 PM
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and to sustain high defense spending -spence
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huh? |
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09-01-2012, 12:42 PM
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oh, that's right, we don't have a budget....but I did include both % of total budget and % of GDP...not so sure that the Cato opinion makes a lot of sense, I don't think there was any suggestion that defense spending should increase proportionately with entitlement spending, they were juxtaposed to show the acceleration...infact, that'd be awfully difficult...but in terms of record spending and future growth, defense spending will not likely surge...but entitlements certainly will...it's no contest
Last edited by scottw; 09-01-2012 at 12:50 PM..
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09-05-2012, 08:30 AM
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if I hadnt moved to texas I would have gotten zimmy, debtuch, spence, scott and Jim in CT together for a panel discussion, recorded it and then posted to you tube.
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making s-b.com a kinder, gentler place for all 
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09-05-2012, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
if I hadnt moved to texas I would have gotten zimmy, debtuch, spence, scott and Jim in CT together for a panel discussion, recorded it and then posted to you tube.
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 Oh my gosh, that would be the greatest ever.  |
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09-05-2012, 09:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
if I hadnt moved to texas I would have gotten zimmy, debtuch, spence, scott and Jim in CT together for a panel discussion, recorded it and then posted to you tube.
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That might have been the 1st Political show to beat Honey Boo Boo Child in the ratings |
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09-06-2012, 11:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
if I hadnt moved to texas I would have gotten zimmy, debtuch, spence, scott and Jim in CT together for a panel discussion, recorded it and then posted to you tube.
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Shame you couldn't do a "web-inar" with all parties involved! |
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09-05-2012, 02:46 PM
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Mosholu
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Don't you think someone at the DNC should lose their job for scheduling the second day of their convention on the night of the first NFL game featuring a NY team and the Cowboys. Talk about giving you audience a choice.
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09-06-2012, 11:48 AM
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Don't you think someone at the DNC should lose their job for scheduling the second day of their convention on the night of the first NFL game featuring a NY team and the Cowboys. Talk about giving you audience a choice.
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Hey, at least Dallas pulled out the win! |
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09-05-2012, 02:59 PM
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I watched some of the coverage tonight and have to say the speakers are so much more on message that what I saw from the GOP. For all the liberal media hyping that the DNC couldn't get their act together they're making a bit of a mockery of Tampa.
Tried watching coverage on FOX but they never actually showed any speakers. Just a little live video box of the convention floor while their pundits ripped Obama.
Not a huge Gov. Patrick fan but he gave a good speech. The mayor of San Antonio was excellent.
Don't plan on watching Warren but I'll bet Slick Willy is going to bring the house down
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09-05-2012, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I watched some of the coverage tonight and have to say the speakers are so much more on message that what I saw from the GOP.
-spence
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and you are entitled to your opinion. I watched too and disagree with you. |
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09-05-2012, 04:38 PM
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and you are entitled to your opinion. I watched too and disagree with you.
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Like who? Hell, even the National Review thought Michelle Obama was good.
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09-06-2012, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Like who? Hell, even the National Review thought Michelle Obama was good.
-spence
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the only review that I saw in NRO of Michelle's speech was by Jonah Goldberg....this is what he said...
"There were many points where I thought what she said was simply untrue or ludicrous, but rarely dishonest. Political wives are almost always immune to the charge of dishonesty because you have to assume their love for their husband is sincere." didn't really get this, I guess if your love for your husband is (assumed)sincere you can go ahead and tell all of the whoppers that you want and not have your honesty challenged?
"Barack Obama is always courageous and does the hard things because they’re right? What movie has she been watching over the last four years?"
" I thought as a political speech it was excellent and did nearly everything she needed it to do."
"Will it convince anyone already leaning against Obama to change their mind, I sincerely doubt it. Will it win back a few waverers? Quite possibly. Will it fire up the Democratic base? Absolutely."
so I guess if your definition of "good" is firing up a room full of bussed-in zombies
chanting... "Forward"..."Backward"....."Forward"....."Backward "
with a well delivered but at many points "ludicrous" or "untrue" presentation... sure it was "good" and maybe excellent...but I imagine most Americans are a little wary of "good" speeches at this point 
just for the record, I don't think much of the conventions and/or speeches on either side...
some interesting points about the "points" from someone else who admits she was "good"
"you missed quite a performance. She has become a pro at public speaking. She reads the teleprompter as smoothly as her husband, with emotion added in all the right places. It went over just fine in the hall, with Democrats mooning over her"
http://www.americanthinker.com/print...s_on_fire.html
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09-05-2012, 04:43 PM
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BuzzLuck
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What did he say? Mayor Menino
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09-05-2012, 04:59 PM
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What did he say? Mayor Menino
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Didn't see him, must have been speaking when I was on FOX.
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09-06-2012, 11:52 AM
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What did he say? Mayor Menino
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We'll have to ask Tom to explain exactly who Martha Luther King is? |
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