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03-27-2013, 06:56 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Cumberland,RI
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What's the best windows now.
First everyone wanted Anderson , then it was Pella , what's considered the best windows now..both new construction and replacement?
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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03-27-2013, 07:13 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
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Stay the eff away from pella.......
I like Andersen esp their 400 series, and Marvins. Marvin also has a mid range called Infinity.
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03-27-2013, 08:04 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Somerset Ma
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I put 15 Anderson 400 series in my house and have been very happy with them. I ordered the from the Depot and had them delivered right to my house direct. My windows are special order, 3 over 1. White vinyl outer and natural wood inside. around $400 each.
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03-27-2013, 08:42 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Cumberland,RI
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Whats the difference between the 400 series and the 200 series Anderson's?
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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03-27-2013, 08:51 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Jeld-Wen are pretty decent for the money
I am partial to Marvin but they are not what they used to be
I have Harvey Industries - Majestic windows in my house , they are aluminum clad out and real wood inside.
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03-27-2013, 08:52 PM
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Super Moderator
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Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nightfighter
Stay the eff away from pella.......
I like Andersen esp their 400 series, and Marvins. Marvin also has a mid range called Infinity.
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I thought it was Integrity
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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03-27-2013, 09:00 PM
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Keep The Change
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Road to Serfdom
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltheart
Whats the difference between the 400 series and the 200 series Anderson's?
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400 is tilt wash. My house has 200 series since 1974. Replaced the sashes in08 because the gas had leaked out after 20 years or so. Good windows far as I can tell glad I didnt cave for vinyl...
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03-27-2013, 09:00 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
I thought it was Integrity
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You are right....
Mike,
The 400 series have smoother operating balusters, block more noise, and offer more options. If you are going to paint the interior, get them factory primed.
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03-27-2013, 09:42 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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We have been putting Anderson 400 series in the house and they are awesome!!!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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03-29-2013, 06:44 AM
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I have Anderson through-out my home and the crank mechanism to open them sucks. Several have broken (gears stripped). They were put in when the house was built in 2000. I removed the crank and they no longer sell the part. I can not tell you how PO'ed I was.
I can tell you I will not use them in the future.
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03-29-2013, 07:25 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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We have Anderson double hung and Pella casements....the Pellas are awesome!!! No crank issues at all with those! Looked at the Anderson and the Marvin casement windows.....did not care for the quality at all.
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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03-29-2013, 03:18 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
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I had problems with crank windows for years. Now its sliders for special apps but regular double hung wherever possible. I currently have a 48 year old Bay window with crank sides that will never open but I plan to replace it with a flat slider. This will give me the "picture" window look but no bow out under the soffets which leads to ice dam issues.
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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03-29-2013, 03:29 PM
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Keep The Change
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Mike, they make bays with double hungs on the sides. I have three no problem. Gives the cat a place to spend the day and watch the world. Insulation will fix the ice issue.
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03-29-2013, 04:41 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
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Big bay windows need to be supported with aircraft cables. If not, they eventually sag, and the side windows get out of square, which is why they don't operate as they should. Can also support with knees and/or box frame under the window. I have fixed bays without replacing by jacking until plumb and square, then installing the knees under the sill. Measure both diagonals to see if square.
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03-29-2013, 08:41 PM
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The one I have has the supports underneath. After almost 50 years its pretty shot though. The sides don't crank , the putty is all falling out (I re corlked ) its single pane glass so it probably costs me $300 a year in lost heat...time to go.
Funny you should mention the cat ED. When i was doing more jewelry craft i once made my first cat a 3.5 carat citrine pendant set in 14 Kt gold. She had yellow eyes and when she sat on the bay window sill at night in the pitch black you could see the light from a street light reflecting off her. In the darkness you could see 2 yellow relections off her eyes and a third, in the middle below, reflecting off her citrine gem pendent which hung off her collar. Whenever I took her to the vet , the vet and all her assistants would all come to see her and admire her 3.5 carat gemstone.
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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03-30-2013, 05:20 AM
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Registered User
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[QUOTE=Mr. Sandman;991807]I have Anderson through-out my home and the crank mechanism to open them sucks. Several have broken (gears stripped). They were put in when the house was built in 2000. I removed the crank and they no longer sell the part. I can not tell you how PO'ed I was.
I can tell you I will not use them in the future.[/QUOTE
They sell the handle.crank and arm as one unit...I just replace a few on some old wood frame andersons....the hardware was 175.00...still cheaper then buying a new window.
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04-29-2013, 01:13 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
I have Anderson through-out my home and the crank mechanism to open them sucks. Several have broken (gears stripped). They were put in when the house was built in 2000. I removed the crank and they no longer sell the part. I can not tell you how PO'ed I was.
I can tell you I will not use them in the future.
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I love my Anderson's as well, with the exception of the cranking issues. I only have two of those however. I thrink the more you use the crank the easier it is to work.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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05-06-2013, 11:33 AM
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GrandBob
Join Date: Apr 2001
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I am in Larry's camp on this one, but it has been a while since I bought either and I did just get a class action settlement notice on my Pella I last bought.
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05-06-2013, 08:38 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
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Marvin Integrity is a wood ultrex window and the Infinity is all ultrex. Ultrex is their pultruded fiberglass. I have discussed this with a number of people in the industry and the consensus is that in the next decade pultruded fiberglass will be THE window material. Just like boats, wood is nice but the maintenance eventually kills you. Vinyl oxidizes and cracks. Putting in aluminum coating on the outside is a little better but aluminum and wood have very different expansion rates due to temperature. Wood, vinyl, aluminum all have very different expansion rates than glass but pultruded fiberglass and glass are very close to the same. Right now Marvin has the best deal I have found on FG windows.
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