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04-16-2013, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by WESTPORTMAFIA
Too many people complain they want their privacy. We are living in a world where we need to let our govt do what they need to do to protect our lives and have our privacy be 2nd in line. I'd rather be alive and spied on than dead and private. Not saying it would have helped any here by any means. This whole thing is a horrible chit show
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Originally Posted by Guppy
It's a new world, not the one I grew up in and certainly not that of the previous generation. IMHO if the founding fathers new what was to come we'd have the instructions on how to change. We need to give up a little,,,, guns for one
I'm pissed off, Gup
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One of those Founding Fathers Guppy claims would have provided "the instructions on how to change" once said: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
When people start saying "yes, please take my rights if doing so will provide me the illusion of being safe", the people that commit these acts of terror have won. During Katrina, most civil rights were stripped away. Illegal state-sanctioned confiscation of weapons took place and then the only people left with their weapons (law enforcement) were also the ones killing innocent people on bridges and in their homes.
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04-16-2013, 08:28 AM
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lobster = striper bait
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Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
One of those Founding Fathers Guppy claims would have provided "the instructions on how to change" once said: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
When people start saying "yes, please take my rights if doing so will provide me the illusion of being safe", the people that commit these acts of terror have won. During Katrina, most civil rights were stripped away. Illegal state-sanctioned confiscation of weapons took place and then the only people left with their weapons (law enforcement) were also the ones killing innocent people on bridges and in their homes.
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Hey did you hear? A bunch of people were killed and even more injured yesterday.
A little kid ran out to hug his dad and when he ran back he was blown up.
What I'm trying to say is, STFU.
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04-16-2013, 08:54 AM
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Location: Plymouth MA
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Originally Posted by likwid
Hey did you hear? A bunch of people were killed and even more injured yesterday.
A little kid ran out to hug his dad and when he ran back he was blown up.
What I'm trying to say is, STFU.
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Agreed. Politics and rhetoric should be set aside for at least 48 hours post incident. All this bull#^&#^&#^&#^& gun drama accomplishes nothing but creating more hard feelings.
Lets keep it where it belongs......the scuppers or political forum.
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04-16-2013, 09:46 AM
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Location: Mansfield
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Originally Posted by likwid
Hey did you hear? A bunch of people were killed and even more injured yesterday.
A little kid ran out to hug his dad and when he ran back he was blown up.
What I'm trying to say is, STFU.
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While I agree with you that the bs has no place here I am amused you selectively picked JDs post ( the only one that was well thought out ) to take your stand. Maybe you need to STFU
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04-16-2013, 08:34 AM
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I was home working on my boat... fiberglassing the foredeck, enjoying the day and the red sox victory when the news came accross sports radio...having run that particular marathon 5 times ... I was thinking what can I do to help those that were experiencing such joy one minute and such horror the next...my only thought was to give blood.. something I do regualry anyway... I encorage others that want to help in some small way to do the same.... the blood you donate just might save a life...
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A good run is better than a bad stand!
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04-16-2013, 08:39 AM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Originally Posted by Rockfish9
I was home working on my boat... fiberglassing the foredeck, enjoying the day and the red sox victory when the news came accross sports radio...having run that particular marathon 5 times ... I was thinking what can I do to help those that were experiencing such joy one minute and such horror the next...my only thought was to give blood.. something I do regualry anyway... I encorage others that want to help in some small way to do the same.... the blood you donate just might save a life...
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Red Cross is taking donations, there's a huge network on reddit and twitter of people offering rides/airline miles to folks to get home, etc. etc.
A couple local joints are donating proceeds to Red Cross.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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04-15-2013, 07:18 PM
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I haven't seen anyone criticizing them?
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04-15-2013, 07:23 PM
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Not Jack
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I don't think anyone was "sleeping on the job". Someone probably strolled in with a couple of bags, dumped them in trashcans, then flipped a switch. Quick. How does one defend against that?
The entire area was searched by dogs before the race, anyway.
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04-15-2013, 08:23 PM
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Location: Cumberland,RI
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A holes from all over the world and internally are now using random mass violence to push agendas or simply get famous and you want to take away the guns we might need to defend ourselves? Man , sometimes I think I woke up on a different planet.
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04-15-2013, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Saltheart
A holes from all over the world and internally are now using random mass violence to push agendas or simply get famous and you want to take away the guns we might need to defend ourselves? Man , sometimes I think I woke up on a different planet.
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I said nothing about guns. But yes you woke up on a different planet. That planet is going further to crap every day we all wake up.
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04-15-2013, 09:41 PM
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Gup, I'll be locked and loaded,thank you for offering up my God given rights.
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04-15-2013, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bostonharbor
Gup, I'll be locked and loaded,thank you for offering up my God given rights.
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You really believe God gave you the right to own a gun?
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04-15-2013, 10:05 PM
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Yes,it's my God-given and natural right to defend my family and self.Who else will do it?When danger is seconds away the police are only minutes away.I'm a Cherokee my Ancestors enjoyed the "social engineering".If the day comes please volunteer to collect the 300 million guns.
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04-15-2013, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bostonharbor
Yes,it's my God-given and natural right to defend my family and self.Who else will do it?When danger is seconds away the police are only minutes away.I'm a Cherokee my Ancestors enjoyed the "social engineering".If the day comes please volunteer to collect the 300 million guns.
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Ill ask again.
You really believe God gave you the right to own a gun?
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04-15-2013, 10:06 PM
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Location: Somerset Ma
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Yes it is a god given right...the constitution was written to protect that right, so the government does not try to take it away.
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04-15-2013, 10:13 PM
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The guys that blow stuff up also believe in god. There are many gods. I guess all gods believe in guns, even thought when they were supposedly alive there were no guns. Makes sense to me.
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04-15-2013, 10:18 PM
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My God is alive.Have a good night.
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04-15-2013, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bostonharbor
My God is alive.Have a good night.
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Which god is your god? Any pics? Any proof he wanted you to own guns?
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04-15-2013, 10:32 PM
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Having a Gun would not have prevented the incident in Boston today. I hope they catch the SOB.
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04-15-2013, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by the point
Having a Gun would not have prevented the incident in Boston today. I hope they catch the SOB.
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Read the whole thread you slacker! Had nothing to do about guns. Until someone mentioned that god said he wanted people to have them. Which god I'm not sure?
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04-15-2013, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by WESTPORTMAFIA
Read the whole thread you slacker! Had nothing to do about guns. Until someone mentioned that god said he wanted people to have them. Which god I'm not sure?
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04-16-2013, 06:00 AM
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My little sister works for BAA and was right near this mess when it happened.
She had been sitting in the bleachers directly above one of the un-detonated devices that was found (it was found 30min after she moved). Watching the media coverage sure feels different when you have a personal connection.
So scary.
Cowards for sure.
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04-16-2013, 07:03 AM
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OK - please take time to focus on the topic at hand - move the gun / political talk off to the appropriate places.
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Originally Posted by WESTPORTMAFIA
Read the whole thread you slacker! Had nothing to do about guns. Until someone mentioned that god said he wanted people to have them. Which god I'm not sure?
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I think it happened when someone said to take away the guns - because that would of prevented this.
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Originally Posted by chrisjoe13
My little sister works for BAA and was right near this mess when it happened.
She had been sitting in the bleachers directly above one of the un-detonated devices that was found (it was found 30min after she moved). Watching the media coverage sure feels different when you have a personal connection.
So scary.
Cowards for sure.
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Glad she and many others made it out OK.
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04-16-2013, 07:18 AM
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And when he awoke,he said;Let them have guns!
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04-16-2013, 08:16 AM
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In the aftermath of this absolutley horrific act, its a positive to see the way the city is coming together. The city officials, law/fire, residents, all coming together and trying to help anyone that needs it. Really shows a sense of what our community is about. Now we just hope they catch this sick bastard and do unspeakable things to him.
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04-16-2013, 09:34 AM
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In a recent thread I joked about hitting 100 posts,,,, someone called me a "rookie" LOL
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!
If I'm not banned, I'll try not to speak when I'm P O'd again and apologize for creating a chit storm out of your original post JR.
Still P O'd, Gup
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04-16-2013, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Guppy
In a recent thread I joked about hitting 100 posts,,,, someone called me a "rookie" LOL
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!
If I'm not banned, I'll try not to speak when I'm P O'd again and apologize for creating a chit storm out of your original post JR.
Still P O'd, Gup
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I wouldn't worry about it. We are all PO'd and have our own opinions. It was a very easy thread to get side-railed
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04-16-2013, 11:14 AM
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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04-16-2013, 11:47 AM
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They are reporting that the devices were made from pressure cookers with metal and ball breeaing for debri.
That should help in narrowing their search.
Add to that any video footage from the stores on that street and they should hopefully be able to find who the culprits are.
I would imagine that they could be able to figure out what brand/model of cooker was used, and look for possible purchase points and go from there.
forensic science is definitely a big help in these matters.
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04-16-2013, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FishermanTim
They are reporting that the devices were made from pressure cookers with metal and ball breeaing for debri.
That should help in narrowing their search.
Add to that any video footage from the stores on that street and they should hopefully be able to find who the culprits are.
I would imagine that they could be able to figure out what brand/model of cooker was used, and look for possible purchase points and go from there.
forensic science is definitely a big help in these matters.
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Not that it means anything, but pressure cooker bombs have been used by terrorists in the past. Still curious to hear if anyone will claim responsibility for this.
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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