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08-12-2022, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Now your playing dumb.
Classic, you think the IRS is made up of only of agents.
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$46B of the $80B that is in the bill is specifically earmarked for the hiring of agents. The median income for IRS agents is $55,937 a year, which come out to roughly 83,000 agents hired. So the 87,000 agents # being thrown around is pretty close
https://amp.comparably.com/salaries/...-service-agent
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/irs...reduction-act/
“Under the plan, about $46 billion of that $80 billion would be spent on hiring more enforcement agents”
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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08-12-2022, 12:43 PM
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#362
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Originally Posted by scottw
I saw the ad for new agents...."willing to use deadly force" was a prerequisite in Dark Brandon's Enforcement Brigade
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Your deep in the cult even if you won’t admit it.
Last time I checked The IRS Criminal Investigation special agent job
Is not a generic IRS agent. But again more conservatives 1/2 truths
But of course you have no issues with cops use if deadly force. Even against the unarmed ..
But but the IRS
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08-12-2022, 12:51 PM
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#363
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
$46B of the $80B that is in the bill is specifically earmarked for the hiring of agents. The median income for IRS agents is $55,937 a year, which come out to roughly 89,000 agents hired. So the 87,000 agents # being thrown around is pretty accurate
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/irs...reduction-act/
“Under the plan, about $46 billion of that $80 billion would be spent on hiring more enforcement agents”
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So you show up again peddling 1/2 truths like your buddy shocking
In your own provided link
The department estimated in a 2021 report that the funding may cover about 87,000 employees, which has been widely reported. However, these hires may include a range of positions, such as auditors, customer service and IT workers, the Treasury clarified in a statement to CNBC on Wednesday.
Let me guess you missed that part
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08-12-2022, 01:07 PM
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#364
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
Your deep in the cult even if you won’t admit it.
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whatever tickles your little brain....
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08-12-2022, 01:08 PM
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#365
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So you show up again peddling 1/2 truths like your buddy shocking
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you and pete should share a therapist...
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08-12-2022, 01:17 PM
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#366
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Your deep in the cult even if you won’t admit it.
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how would you go about demonstrating that you’re not in a cult? for the 1,000th time, can you list some big policy issues in which you agree with conservatives? or do you ( despite NOT being in a cult) think liberals are correct on every single, solitary issue?
you said republicans want a brutal fascist big federal government to impose sharia law. 5 minutes later you said they want no rules so that it’s every man for himself
but you’re not in a cult.
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08-12-2022, 01:34 PM
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#367
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
how would you go about demonstrating that you’re not in a cult?
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it's just how he argues...he has to first tell you that you are a deranged misinformed pos then he recites stuff he read on leftwingloon.com
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08-12-2022, 02:00 PM
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#368
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Now your playing dumb.
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at least I'm only playing
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08-12-2022, 02:34 PM
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#369
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Why do I f***ing try
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08-12-2022, 02:36 PM
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at least I'm only playing
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I swear he’s got an extra chromosome
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08-12-2022, 03:17 PM
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08-12-2022, 04:10 PM
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such children
Whom think the FBI plant’s evidence is the enemy of the avg America [ code for conservatives) and the IRS are Hiring 89 thousand hit men over 10 years to take out and Harrass who’s ever left! Because the internet told them so !
And of course The 3 amigos can’t or don’t understand using the term cult is a metaphor. Like SNOWFLAKE
Enjoy your T shirts
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08-12-2022, 04:24 PM
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#373
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Originally Posted by wdmso
such children
Whom think the FBI plant’s evidence is the enemy of the avg America [ code for conservatives)
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your high school english teacher just checked himself into rehab.
i mean, i make a LOT of typos, way too many, but that’s some fine lefty gibberish right there.
i don’t think the FBI is the enemy, but i don’t deny that there’s evidence that the left has occasionally used the DOJ as a weapon against political
opponents. Kind of hard to deny that.
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08-12-2022, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
your high school english teacher just checked himself into rehab.
i mean, i make a LOT of typos, way too many, but that’s some fine lefty gibberish right there.
i don’t think the FBI is the enemy, but i don’t deny that there’s evidence that the left has occasionally used the DOJ as a weapon against political
opponents. Kind of hard to deny that.
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No Jim it’s not hard to deny your delusional views
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08-12-2022, 05:32 PM
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The Democrats are not increasing the IRS because they think they're going to be audited ... They're increasing the size of the IRS so they can use it as a political weapon against conservatives," Clyde said.
"[The beefed-up IRS] will become more weaponized ... more militaristic," said Clyde, alluding to an alleged IRS job posting in which some applicants might be expected to carry firearms, potentially for citizen raids.
Maybe a friend of Scott and Dad ?
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08-12-2022, 05:34 PM
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#376
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And well over half of them are planned hires to replace projected retirements.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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08-12-2022, 05:57 PM
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And well over half of them are planned hires to replace projected retirements.
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Yep, that and those positions already vacant from past attrition. But the point of my post was breaking down the math for the agents as a whole. That and to show that a significant chunk of the money was for the hiring of agents.
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08-12-2022, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
That and to show that a significant chunk of the money was for the hiring of agents.
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look for updated definitions of "raid" and "agents"
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08-12-2022, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
And well over half of them are planned hires to replace projected retirements.
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this all you need to know.....
CBS News
The Inflation Reduction Act would invest $370 billion in fighting climate change and $64 billion to lower costs for people with Affordable Care Act health plans. To pay for that, Democrats want the IRS to step up audits and enforcement efforts to collect billions that currently get lost in the so-called tax gap.
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08-12-2022, 06:32 PM
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I’m confused are you against the government hiring to ensure taxes due are collected on time.
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08-12-2022, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
I’m confused are you against the government hiring to ensure taxes due are collected on time.
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Don’t forget AOC owes 1600 bucks in back taxes they support going after her
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08-12-2022, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Don’t forget AOC owes 1600 bucks in back taxes they support going after her
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no comment on the fact the democrats took out the elimination of a tax loophole for the wealthy, in that bill. so let’s not hear any nonsense about wanting the wealthy to pay their fair share.
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08-12-2022, 07:47 PM
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#383
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
no comment on the fact the democrats took out the elimination of a tax loophole for the wealthy, in that bill. so let’s not hear any nonsense about wanting the wealthy to pay their fair share.
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What loophole, honestly curious
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08-12-2022, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
What loophole, honestly curious
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something called the “carried interest loophole” which benefits private equity investors ( not a lot of poor people in that group). recent versions of the inflation reduction. bill included the elimination of that loophole to help pay for it. Sinema, who takes campaign donations from very wealthy private equity folks, had that elimination removed, thus preserving the loophole. The democrats passed the version of the bill which preserved that loophole
Have a good weekend TDF.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna42394
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08-12-2022, 09:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
no comment on the fact the democrats took out the elimination of a tax loophole for the wealthy, in that bill. so let’s not hear any nonsense about wanting the wealthy to pay their fair share.
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Clearly you have no concept of negotiation and no one every gets everything they want
Wow There are 3,841 Hedge Funds businesses in the US as of 2022
But again feel free to ignore everything else in the bill
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08-13-2022, 04:33 AM
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#386
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
something called the “carried interest loophole” which benefits private equity investors ( not a lot of poor people in that group). recent versions of the inflation reduction. bill included the elimination of that loophole to help pay for it. Sinema, who takes campaign donations from very wealthy private equity folks, had that elimination removed, thus preserving the loophole. The democrats passed the version of the bill which preserved that loophole
Have a good weekend TDF.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna42394
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So are you admitting you don’t realize that sometimes you need to take things out in order to get a holdout vote you need to pass the bill so the majority passes? Of are you just running out of good talking points as this administration continues to pass good legislation that helps average Americans?
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08-13-2022, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
So are you admitting you don’t realize that sometimes you need to take things out in order to get a holdout vote you need to pass the bill so the majority passes? Of are you just running out of good talking points as this administration continues to pass good legislation that helps average Americans?
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my god did you miss the point.
if democrats actually believed in making the rich pay their fair share, they wouldn’t have had to take it out. But they didn’t have the votes within their own party unless they took it out, which necessarily means the democrats as a whole don’t really believe what they claim to believe.
make that wrong.
the democrats quickly became the party of the billionaire class. wall
street leans very much to the left now. So can we just admit it.
i’m old
enough to remember when you guys criticized the right for being the party of the rich. but today it’s a good thing to be the party of the rich? why is that?
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08-13-2022, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
According to Rasmussen poll (Trump’s favorite pollster), President Biden's job approval has risen from 36% three weeks ago to 45% today.
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they should keep him in hiding...it's really helping his polling numbers
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08-13-2022, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
my god did you miss the point.
if democrats actually believed in making the rich pay their fair share, they wouldn’t have had to take it out. But they didn’t have the votes within their own party unless they took it out, which necessarily means the democrats as a whole don’t really believe what they claim to believe.
make that wrong.
the democrats quickly became the party of the billionaire class. wall
street leans very much to the left now. So can we just admit it.
i’m old
enough to remember when you guys criticized the right for being the party of the rich. but today it’s a good thing to be the party of the rich? why is that?
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If the Dems like the Trumplicans only passed legislation that was strict party line, they could accomplish as little of value to the American people as the Trumplicans do.
When Republicans have power, they ban abortion, cut billionaires’ taxes and attack LGBT Americans. When Democrats have power, they add jobs, fund veteran care, bring manufacturing home, protect the climate and defend reproductive rights.
Which do you think is better for America?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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08-13-2022, 06:55 AM
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they should keep him in hiding...it's really helping his polling numbers
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He’s working
With the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act in the House, families will see lower prescription drug prices, lower health care costs, and lower energy costs.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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