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12-28-2005, 03:40 PM
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this thread is way over rated
in order to be over rated, something first has to be rated. OK, who did the rating?
Maybe it's a matter of taste.
I don't take offense bigfish because I know some bands are not understood like the Dead, you have to get to know what they are about. They even said once on Letterman "if we ever make a really good album, I'm sure they'll rush out and buy it" . Their live stuff is where their best stuff is, it's an experience thing. If you ever went to a show where they were all clicking together and they transition from China Cat Sunflower toI know you rider, then you'd know what "on" is. They mesh together and it's insane. Now you're making me go put a CD on
The Stones after 1980 are over rated
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12-28-2005, 03:44 PM
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I know what you mean Slip and I am not saying they are not a great band in the eyes of their fans who enjoy their music...all I am saying is that in your own opinion......who would any one individual think was over rated....just meant for some spirited comment from the many music lovers we have. I bet if I had seen the Dead live....(that sounds funny) if I had seen them live I bet I would have thought they were pretty darn good!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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12-28-2005, 04:46 PM
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I'm so bored at work today I'm actually going to jump in on this one. I think Slipknot is dead on ba11s accurate with his response. I think you really have to have some rating criteria for bands before you say one's overrated and another's underrated. I would think things like how consistently they're pumping out new material and not reshuffling the old stuff for yet another Greatest Hits album. Seems like a lot of people are citing specific examples of musicians' talents or lack thereof, that has to be a ratable trait. Someone needs to make up a scorecard.
BUT, I would at least agree with ChrisL and Twisted Sister, as well as most other heavy metal bands. I don't think it takes an ounce of talent to scream and play at a deafening volume while dressed like a sideshow act. Never thought Gun's 'N Roses was worth the price of admission, either. I have not seen a Rappin Mikey performace either so I won't pass judgement. Maybe at the next TFCTFN. Oh wait, sorry, this was rock bands. Hey a good and safe New Year everyone.
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12-28-2005, 04:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
in order to be over rated, something first has to be rated. OK, who did the rating?
Maybe it's a matter of taste.
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dats it "."
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12-28-2005, 11:53 PM
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googan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
this thread is way over rated
in order to be over rated, something first has to be rated.
Maybe it's a matter of taste.
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Exactly
Which is why this doesn't qualify for "most over rated" I don't recall anyone evr characterizing them as one of the great rock bands. In fact they were ON VH1's "One Hit Wonders"
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Originally Posted by Swimmer
Iron Butterfly.....one hit wonder indagadadavida...
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12-29-2005, 01:09 AM
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The bands MANY think are "great" that I think are over-rated, or suck even:
1) Beatles. Someone earlier mentioned that obviously the Stones were making better/ balls-ier/ less commercial music around the same time. So were Cream, the Kinks, Blind Faith, the Who, & soon after Floyd, Led Zep, Tull, Traffic, & Yes & others. There's a very good reason the teenybopper girls chased & screamed for the Beatles... & not the Kinks nor Floyd! (Who would want to kiss David Gilmour back then?)
2) Van Halen. They suck, he sucks! All Eddie is is a musically inept fast-fretted show- off who can't write a song. IMHO they don't have a single "great" or even very good song musically (or lyrically). Most are downright cheesy & embarrassing (ever really listen to the-- inane-- lyrics to "Panama?") And the worst Bass player in Rock history hands- down!
3) U 2. I can't name one great nor musically impressive... nor creative/ unique U2 song. Sunday Bloody Sunday is a "good" song. That's it for them. Instrumentally inept, & cheesy pop sell- outs now since their early/ underground "punk image" days.
4) Springsteen. IF he was ever good... it was because his band had talent. HE sucks! Not one great-- or good!-- song from him in like 15+ years now?? (And the prick is anti- Cop to boot!). CAN I be the only one who thought even "Born in the USA" sucked big- time? I heard one song only from his new/ most recent album: on a 1 - 10 scale, I give it a 0. Embarrassingly bad (I wish I could recall the name-- no I don't!)
5) Green Day. Sorry, as they're hugely popular right now... Are their lyrics a bit edgy & interesting compared to the other drek out today? Maybe... But musically every song sounds alike to me (ok, their ballads all sound alike, and their "rockers" all sound alike!), & little discernable instumental talent going on. Even long- time "hard- core" Green Day fans abandoned the band years ago for "selling out." And they did: all the way to the bank, as their latest release was #4 top seller last year...
I'm done!
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12-29-2005, 08:20 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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[QUOTE=Slipknot]
. If you ever went to a show where they were all clicking together and they transition from China Cat Sunflower toI know you rider, then you'd know what "on" is. They mesh together and it's insane. Now you're making me go put a CD on
oh man that's it!
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12-29-2005, 10:20 PM
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D'oh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
If you ever went to a show where they were all clicking together and they transition from China Cat Sunflower toI know you rider, then you'd know what "on" is. They mesh together and it's insane. Now you're making me go put a CD on
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Exactly. AN even better example would be tying that -oh so delicate- knot betwteen help & franklins. But obviously you undertand that, hence the handle.
I can't read this thread, because every time i read the dead, i cringe. i get palpatations when people say phish. but I guess thats why they make chocolate and vanilla.
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i bent my wookie
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12-30-2005, 02:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zacs
Exactly. AN even better example would be tying that -oh so delicate- knot betwteen help & franklins. But obviously you undertand that, hence the handle.
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Like tying a bimini twist plus a huffnagle in the dark...
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01-03-2006, 03:13 PM
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LeCounts: Its "Love Reign O'er Me" and it is an incredible song. Quadrophenia is in my top 5 albums of all time. If one doesn't feel the emotion in Roger's voice they have none.
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01-03-2006, 03:17 PM
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thx, CC! Can't be 100% accurate all of the time! And you're right!
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01-03-2006, 03:38 PM
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LC,
Have to disagree on your Green Day assessment as I would put American Idiot in my top 10, maybe top 5. It is, hands down, the best rock album in years, many years. Musically, you won't find the intricate guitar work or instrumentalism of many, but what you will find is a Stones-esque tightness to the band. Quite simply that band rocks and plays together like few others. That in itself puts them in a league of few.
While some attribute the Stones greatness to Taylor and Jones, and they surely were highly talented and important, the thing that sets the Stones apart is the rythm section. Richards, Watts and Wyman grooved so well together. That feel is the basis for their greatness. Every now and then Richards rises up with some lead guitar work, but its the rythm and blues base from those three that established everything for them.
Green Day is the only modern Rock band that exhibits that feel and tightness. I didn't think it was there with Dookie but with age they have developed. Just because American Idiot sold well doesn't mean they sold out.
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01-03-2006, 03:40 PM
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Hmmmmm
Dave Clark Five
The Monkees
Ten Years After
Kansas
Rod Stewart
and I gave up after that.... just too many
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