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10-06-2003, 03:08 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Hab's, I checked my PM's That was very kind of you.Thank you very much. You da man.
Bernzy
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10-06-2003, 03:09 PM
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Dave's Guide Service
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 7,557
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yer better off not using that stuff.
thanks for ripping one of My dannys apart and copying it, Nice
I dont mind But My time in is alot longer than You
Like it was said to Me last week on the sand when I seen the needle By You looks alot like some of Mine.
I think Mike F put it well on another Board.
Its a shame cause Guys like You make Guys and others not post thier work due to being ripped off and sold
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10-06-2003, 03:09 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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always gotta be a JOKER...nothing else to rip me about right?

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10-06-2003, 03:11 PM
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Hey Dave take a HIKE.
That's MY body MY design. And I ain't sayin it AGAIN.
You wanna rip me? I can sling it just as bad.... YOU copied BEACHMASTER.
Gimme a break. I'm done listening to your horsecrap. 
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10-06-2003, 03:41 PM
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You know I gotta say a few things here.
Right now I'm pretty steamed cuz Dave YOU got BIG nuts to say what you did here. My new needlefish is MY design, it came out of hours of work to get the shape I wanted. It actually started when I was doing a new template for the MAKATI design I been doing for the last 6 months on the lathe. I needed a new template for the new duplicator and started to do it but decided instead to change the front of it instead. NOTHING whatsoever to do with your stuff. Neither is the stubby 1 oz one that PRECEDED the 2.5 oz one. Your needle I have here is so far different it's laughable.
And for the record I can account for every needle that has been done, so I know who had what to SAY. All I'm going to say is SAD
Shame on you for publicly ripping something I spent hours and hours designing and getting the weighting right etc.
And shame on you for trying to discredit me on my Danny swimmer to begin with. It's like I said in the private mail to you before....I considered you a FRIEND. But you are so short sighted all you could say is I copied YOUR plug. WRONG. Wanna come see the cut up blanks? Gibbs and LEX? They're HERE.
Anyone who can say that they haven't taken something apart to see how someone else did something is lying. It's HOW you make your product BETTER. It's HOW YOU LEARN. Wanna compare the plug lengths, lip placement, lips, grommets, SHAPE,, hook size, hardware, weight size and technique? They don't match.
All it seems you wanna do is publicly trash my work. SAD.
You copied Beachmaster from what I can see....does he or anyone else rip you publicly?
Get off your high horse. I'm off mine.
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10-06-2003, 03:50 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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Hey whats a good safe durable finish....I'm not making plugs anymore ..I started a sx toy factory..u can pm me .....thanks ..and get your free toy ..
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
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10-06-2003, 03:57 PM
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Dave's Guide Service
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 7,557
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I did really ,I think My plugs are a little fat for that dont you think.
as far as black and gold goes, been using it for ever.
You cut up one of My plugs and as far as I can see You took My shape.

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10-06-2003, 04:01 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Will you guys both take your horses elswhere please.
Bassmaster, people are growing tired of your whining about others copying your stuff especially me.
#^^^^^^^^^^^&, your multiple posts teasing him with you bragging about cutting up his plugs whether it's true or not don't fan the flames at all I'm sure  You know it doesn't take much to get a rise out of him.
Both of you need to grow up and act like adults. We have a seventeen year old here that makes you 2 look like you guys are still in diapers  Maybe I should ask Christian to moderate the forum if it's OK with him and John.
#^^^^^^^^^^^&, this is a pretty bold statement = "Anyone who can say that they haven't taken something apart to see how someone else did something is lying."
Are you specifically referring to saltwater plugs used to catch bass and blues? Is this just someone that is only in it for the business end to do it commercially?
I personally never took apart a plug to copy it, usually you can tell where weighting is and measurements are easy to take without having to cut something apart. I have heard of Xraying plug also. I'm sure many others haven't cut up plugs either. but I must be lying 
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10-06-2003, 04:04 PM
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Slip it was a general statement.
I'm not replying to this drivel anymore. That was a JOKE a long time ago. This isn't.
Everyone seems to want to throw BARBS...not me. see ya guys.
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10-06-2003, 04:06 PM
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Super Moderator
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10-06-2003, 04:12 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
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he don't give a hoot about you,,,,,,,,he's afta ya wife's brownies,,, there's the bait 
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BOAT fish do count.
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10-06-2003, 04:20 PM
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Dave's Guide Service
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cape Cod
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I wanna throw plugs
I got to go change
My diaper Now 
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10-06-2003, 04:22 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
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u make me laugh ...nut !!!
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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10-06-2003, 04:44 PM
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Needlefish Nazi
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,754
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SLIP you and your WIFE are the most HOSPITABLE HOST and HOSTESS at the PLUG building get togethers at your House THANKS . Your wife should market them water base BROWNIES. .....Hey I'M Thinking of making a PLUG that looks like Kotex ,Who do you think will make one TOO......
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Over the Last Several Years HAB'S NEEDLEFISH Have Caught More "Confirmed" 30, 40, 50, and even 60 pound Striped Bass than any other Wooden Needlefish on the Market today. 2 Over 50lbs. and 1 Over 60lbs. in 2005 alone........... "HOOK UP WITH HAB'S" Your Best Bet For BIG BASS.....
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10-06-2003, 04:44 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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This is directed primarily at the commercial & semi-commecial guys (commercial as in selling stuff anywhere) . Lighten up - all of you... Feels like late February in here after a couple months of cabin fever.
You're all (somewhat) full of crap (well almost all) - how about that? You all get on your high horses yet you all do a little bit to needle and stick each other. You all (almost) do. Now people are getting a little tweaked, are you suprised? "This guy copied my stuff".... "You ripped off this guy"... "You never turned a lathe until last week"... "Your plugs suck" - I'm actually laughing now, waiting for Willy to get knocked off the jungle jim.  - Step back and look at this from 100 feet away. You're taking the fun out of it - for others AND YOURSELVES. Just relax a bit & lighten the eff up. Things will be a little more reasonable and enjoyable.
This I will also say, you all do some nice work, you are all very competitive, and there is room in the plug market for all of you. Beating your chests and beyotching at each other here won't do much positive for you other than maybe make you guys look a little silly. I'm also not going to referee this crap other than to say that once the humor washes off, it looks a little stupid.
I have a lot of respect for all of "you". I talk to you all and have seen and fished your works and have had your stuff pilfered from my plug bags. I've fished your gimmes when I've been too broke to buy eels (the best plug  ). I have forgone my favorite eelage and dedicated nights to "your" stuff and liked doing it & caught FISH and LEARNED new things. I have respect AND grattitude to "you" guys. I sincerely wish that YOU GUYS would lighten up a bit...
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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10-06-2003, 04:47 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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I got some e-mails and PMs form you guys - my son (who is ill again  ) wants to play TRAINS. If you guys can "wait" I'll get back to this nonsense AFTER I play with my home from Day Care kid...
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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10-06-2003, 05:24 PM
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10-08-2003, 01:46 PM
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Hey John evidently people think this is an issue. It was not meant as a barb or to be-little you. Came out the wrong way. I meant to research it that's all. You know where we are on this stuff.
Good talking to you today and next plug thingy I buy you a coffee k?
water based coffee
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DO your homework is all I gonna SAY.
It WORKS.
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10-08-2003, 03:18 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Do I see a HABS/Bugger plug in the works, eh? EH? 
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10-08-2003, 03:35 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
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a floater with water base coating 
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BOAT fish do count.
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10-08-2003, 03:38 PM
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Registered User
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it turns yellow 
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10-08-2003, 04:13 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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I'm glad we can all hold hands, Cumbaya my pikie, cumbaya.... 
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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10-08-2003, 09:24 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
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I'm pissed ..I killed em on that needle tonight,,don't have a clue how much lead I poured in the arse...Now I gott
a cut my own plug in half to see how I made it ...Duh !!!!
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
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10-09-2003, 07:58 AM
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Needlefish Nazi
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Salty, I think and hope we understand each other. Hey rather have a BEER.......... 
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Over the Last Several Years HAB'S NEEDLEFISH Have Caught More "Confirmed" 30, 40, 50, and even 60 pound Striped Bass than any other Wooden Needlefish on the Market today. 2 Over 50lbs. and 1 Over 60lbs. in 2005 alone........... "HOOK UP WITH HAB'S" Your Best Bet For BIG BASS.....
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10-09-2003, 08:06 AM
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I can do that TOO
My bro in law comin down tomorrow from NB and he bringin a case of Canadian BLUE
REAL mans beer 
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10-09-2003, 08:35 AM
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Needlefish Nazi
Join Date: Mar 2001
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BEER'S made out of WATER......
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Over the Last Several Years HAB'S NEEDLEFISH Have Caught More "Confirmed" 30, 40, 50, and even 60 pound Striped Bass than any other Wooden Needlefish on the Market today. 2 Over 50lbs. and 1 Over 60lbs. in 2005 alone........... "HOOK UP WITH HAB'S" Your Best Bet For BIG BASS.....
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10-09-2003, 08:40 AM
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But it's not CLEAR 
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10-09-2003, 09:09 AM
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Dave's Guide Service
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ebud
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10-09-2003, 11:30 AM
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It's about respect baby!
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Somone mention beer! mmm NewCastle 
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10-09-2003, 01:00 PM
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Dave's Guide Service
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so what the hell do i coat my plugs with?
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