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02-24-2004, 08:38 AM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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sorry,,I can't help it if you live there...it's your choice 
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BOAT fish do count.
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02-24-2004, 08:43 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
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Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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02-24-2004, 08:45 AM
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Registered User
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Does Hartford have any saltwater? 
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02-24-2004, 09:32 AM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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I would definatley rather toss plugs. The only bait I ever use is live eels. I saw some footage of bass hitting live herring and I been intrigued by the possibilities.
But, I also agree withe TL, I don't have much time to get bait, I'd rather fish.
Looking at FWW picture, I think Storm Wildeyes look alot like herring and they have the irridescence.
I'll have to give them a shot.
Eben, I also wanted to try the Barrington or Warren rivers, I know there are runs in the spring there as well.
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02-24-2004, 09:39 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Years ago when I was a wee lad (not a wee wee) Guys did well with squid on the bottom at Barrington Beach...
But I'm a plug/eel guy.. Plugs in may, once the herring drop I switch to 50/50 eels/plugs
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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02-24-2004, 09:48 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
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From Wee Wee's list of plugs , I like the Mombo Minnows best when herring are around. Same as any plug , certain colors work better at certain palces and at certain times. olive with the goldish botoom is nice! 
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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02-24-2004, 09:54 AM
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Fishing Chauffeur
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: raynham mass
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ok Im learning here
Herring come up from the ocean into the rivers to spawn my office is on the taunton river theres a small outflow going up to one of the local ponds right beside here it flows out to the taunton river would herring go up this small stream or do they go all the way up riverby passing these small outlets if they did go up there Id have a cool spot all to myself to get them well to see them I should say 
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02-24-2004, 10:35 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Libtardia
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My secret weapon last may was a 2 1/4 oz Atom Atomizer popper... it smoked the bass. blue head/white body..
ahh just the thoughts of the first morning i used it give me the shivers  20lbers jumping straight out of the water after the thing... 
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02-24-2004, 10:36 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Granby CT
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I guess you weren't standing next to me Toby. 
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02-24-2004, 10:46 AM
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None
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Newton, MA
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Quote:
Originally posted by fishweewee
While we're on the subject of herring plugs...thought I'd post a pic of some types that have done well for me in prior Springs when the herring were running.
When you're fishing daytime with sun, I like to use a color scheme that shows off the pink irridescence when the sun hits the water. You'll see the pink stripe on the Mambo Minnow, a Beachmaster "Atom-40" type metal-lip swimmer, and a Super Strike darter.
Herring also have a rich "gold" color - so if I'm fishing low light situations, I'll throw the olive and gold Bassmaster Danny plug (below right).
In shallow water (1-3 feet) I'll just use a plain old Mambo Minnow with a white/silver body and black back. Simple but deadly on the Vineyard in May.
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Marvelous, I have the olive mambo minnow. Are we going to use them on the herring run, Ben?
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02-24-2004, 11:04 AM
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02-24-2004, 11:18 AM
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Location: MA
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I just bought a 3 ounce and a 1 1/4 atomizer yesterday, really cant wait to try them now! 
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02-24-2004, 01:01 PM
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My brother is bald
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Parts Unknown
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Does anybody ever liveline herring off the back beaches at night? I think it would be to hard to cast one of those bad boys to where the fish USUALLY areduring the day. I use them most of the time in the river and at Bass Hole in Dennis. At both places I fish a channel that is only about 30 yrds across. I can get a herring a bit more then 1/2 way into the channel before I start lobbing them off.
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seals + plovers =
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02-24-2004, 01:27 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: not a clue
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Like I said....anywhere
I like the the herrin an so do the slob's[big girl's] 97% of the time, it's the quality of the fish I'm after, so taking a few min's to get them is not a problem..rather only get 3 cow's to 20 twink's.
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BOAT fish do count.
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02-24-2004, 02:22 PM
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Fish "one of God's gifts to us"
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Woonsocket
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Well last year from boat I did as well on dead whole herring as I did on live ones. It depends a lot on the presentation. I like a 2oz egg sinker with a good swivel and 4' of 30 clear leader. drift the boat. Bang, Bang Bang. lots of big stripers.
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"Fish, just one of God's gifts to us."
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02-24-2004, 03:15 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
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For cut up herring , you should try "helicopter herring" not just square chunks.
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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02-24-2004, 04:36 PM
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fishing the pacific
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Port Townsend, WA
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due explain helicopter herring if you don't mind?
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Keep lines wet and tight in the pacific
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02-24-2004, 05:47 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Libtardia
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I think helicopter herring is when you leave the tail on and it helicopters in the current...
no??
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02-25-2004, 12:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
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Yup,
Me and Mikey takem all post spawn.
Love,
Rick
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John Redmond Thinks He's Smart By Changing My Avatar
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02-25-2004, 06:40 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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I made a live well for the back of my Blazer last year. Used a BIG tub with a bilge pump hooked to a garden hose that I drilled holes in and I wire tied to the side of the Tub. Worked pretty good at keeping the herring alive. I got the herring at the Gilbert Stuart run... lots of work. I live lined at the Narrow for 3 weeks and never touched a fish. One of my partners who has done this for years had the same results. I know that live Herring are killer but last year at the River they just didn't produce.
I have made some BIG swimmers and painted them in a Herring pattern complete with scales. I am probably going to skip the live lining this year and just throw the swimmers
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02-25-2004, 08:18 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Vero Beach Florida
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WeeWee... are YOU are registered Herring offender?...
Is that the REAL reason why all DEM eyes are on YOU?... 
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02-25-2004, 09:29 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Cumberland,RI
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Helicipter herring is where you slice the herring with one long diagonal slice. this gives you 2 pieces , both with a fat end and the other end pointed. Hook the chunk in the middle . Whemn you toss it in the water , it will spin as it sinks.
Anyway , it imparts some action that attracts the fish.
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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02-25-2004, 09:55 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Vero Beach Florida
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Great Tip!  Thanks!
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02-25-2004, 10:23 AM
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Location: Libtardia
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Quote:
Originally posted by piemma
I live lined at the Narrow for 3 weeks and never touched a fish. One of my partners who has done this for years had the same results. I know that live Herring are killer but last year at the River they just didn't produce.
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I gotta tell you.... last year, the river just didnt produce much for me either...
Especially at the times and places where it usually did in past seasons....(but I've only been fishing it a couple of years).
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02-25-2004, 01:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Rhode Island
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Eben how could you not pay attention to herring when you fish THE RIVER that screams at you herring. Here's a tip. Chunk your herring. I've outfished more guys that livelined right next to me by chunking. Don't get me wrong catching a keeper with live herring is fun, but I've learned my lesson. To me live herring is a pain in the butt. I know a few guys that liveline on the boat and kill fish, but from shore I like to chunk. Once in a while if I'm fishing a spot and the herring are flopping on the beach I'll live line but otherwise the chunks are more dependable.
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02-25-2004, 02:18 PM
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Location: Newtown, CT
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Eben,
Gotcha. Maybe one of these days I'll buy you one of those 69?
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02-25-2004, 02:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bliz
WeeWee... are YOU are registered Herring offender?...
Is that the REAL reason why all DEM eyes are on YOU?...
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Nope, but honestly I could give a rat's ass about Connecticut's stupid herring laws. I don't believe in unjust laws. This attitude seems to be shared by a lot of other people who just don't give a $hit and poach herring anyways.
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02-25-2004, 02:35 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: cranston
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Chipwood - I do not understand how a chunk of dead herring can be better than a live one? Please explain your thinking.
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02-25-2004, 02:45 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Rhode Island
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Over the years I've found that chunks of herring work better than livelined herring. I don't know, that's the way it is. I fished a run for years and I'd see a guy there who religiously fished live herring and I would get more fish with the chunk. Now in some places it could be different but the herring runs I have fished chunks were more effective. As the spring progresses I get away for herring but I notice that guys still use live and do well, mostly from the boat, but by then there are other baits I prefer. I 've seen chunks outproduce live too many times in the spring plus it's easier than keeping herring alive. If you were hungry would you rather expend energy or lazily pick up a tasty chunk off the bottom.
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02-25-2004, 03:19 PM
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Registered User
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Location: cranston
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I guess you never know what the bass are thinking. I have had the opposite experience as yours. Fishing chunks I was getting nothing while a guy next to me livelining was nailing bass after bass.
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