Iraq

[Nebe]

i agree if you sign on for combat, you signed on for combat, but if I signed on for a tour, fought my tour and came home expecting to have filled my obligations, then was told if I didnt re-enlist for another tour, I would seek a lawyer.
Think about it. This is like going to a college for a 4 year undergrad study, then before graduation, the presidint of the school tells you that if you dont sign up for graduate school, you'll have to take the same classes over agian.

If you ask me, this is an attempt from the higher command to scare our troops into staying on when these troops have done their duty.

[Navy Chief]

Eben

This is the military you're talking about. You can seek a lawyer and pay him a million dollars. Makes no difference. Your CO can throw him off base before he introduces himself.

You see the standard military contract it's for 8 years, 4 active, 4 inactive reserve. The reserve time can be turned to active without your consent. (It's been this way since the draft ended) It's not really a contract. It's more like a binding document. The contract can be changed at anytime by the military. You can be forced to stay in past your initial end of obligation. No choice in this matter, we call it "stop gap"

But if you read the rest of that article, the Lt. Col. said that they probably would not send them back to Iraq with less than a year on their contract. It sounded from the article that this "threat" did not come from higher command.

If you joined the military, you joined for combat.

[green meanie]

a draft LOL you got to be kidding.
we lost 1000 men and women we have tons of troops so they will just send some of the troops back over that came home like my friend.
my friend served in IRAQ and his biggest bitch was sleeping in sand and not having junk food LOL.. we sent all the junk food for him and his friends we could

Originally posted by Eben
You need to read that agian.. thats blackmail. I bet we'll see a draft in a year or 2. And thats with Bush or Kerry at the wheel.

[Nebe]

aha.. I didnt know about the reserve system. Now that I understand this I can see the logic.

thanks navy chief

[Nebe]

Agian good point Green Meanie. I think this is why Bush anounced a few weeks ago that there will be a major re-shifting of the troops world wide.. before we were in a cold war stage... I guess he will bring most troops back to the states so they can be sent to Iraq.

[bart]

i think its scary and downright corrupt that we have only spent 6% of the money intended for rebuilding Iraq.

[outfished]

Some folks have already forgotten that Islamic militants HAVE DECLARED WAR ON US! The've bombed our ships, taken down our airliners, bombed our embassy's, bombed night clubs around the world, slaughtered innocent school children and on and on and on.....So as president I would not stop at Iraq and Afganistan. Iran's nuke facilites would have been detroyed by now, Syria would be made to come clean about recieving Saddam's WMD or else the cruise's are a comin The Saudi's would be made to cooperate, cease supporting the militants or else all your oil fields will be confiscated immediately. The world reacts with shock about the Iraqi prison scandel, yet says NOTHING about innocent people being beheaded. Militants bombed several church's in Iraq recently, no problem there right? Just don't go near our mosques. Are you Sh#*tin Me? Where's the outcry from the decent Muslims(if there are any) about the atrocities being done by these thugs? None, zip, nadda.... We've got the bombs so lets use them and make a "REAL" reality show . God bless america and George Bush!

[outfished]

Very suspicious....

[Nebe]

while i will not mention any presidents here and I know I sholdnt even reply to this, I will say one last thing. there are 2 trains of thought about the war on terrorism... kill em all, or diplomacy. You have to at least consider the diplomacy part. Killing is the easy way out for both sides. The terrorists have declared war on us becasue we have helped israel take land from the palestineans and out troops are on Islamic holy lands. If we adress these issues we will win the war on terrror. (you wont hear that on the news)

dont forget that the colonial patriots of america were looked at as terrorists too by the english.

[Surfcastinglife]

eben i would agree with you on diplomacy but for one reason i think kill em all is better. did u get a chance to see the video of eugene armstrongs beheading that i had posted before the thread was deleted? if so then i think u would be more inclined to abandon diplomacy in the same fashion that these barbarians have abandoned the sanctity of human life. these militants deserve no faith worse then death, death itself may not be enough for these people.

[outfished]

Do you honestly think the rest of the Arab world gives a flying two cents worth about the Palestinian's problems? Its just a smokescreen, an excuse to wreak havoc around the world. Their real agenda is to turn back time (about two thousand years) to a time that was so archaic and brutal and all in the name of religion. Don't forget the Palestians lost that land not so long ago by supporting attacks on Israel. Read your history books. You gamble, you loose, sorry. If the rest of the Arab world was so concerned about the plight of the Palestinians then why is it that NO other Arab country wants them? Just my opinion