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Old 12-01-2004, 05:14 PM   #31
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I like timber, but I'll throw plastics NO PROBLEM I'm fond of black mambo's with one reflective eye removed And the SS darter yellow with the light silver line down the side mmmmm, the black squidzee's with a nice fully dressed tail mmmm Mr. Gags gave me one the way he sets'um up mmmm, whatever catches Men! Whatever catches and pogies I love the lil guys, had them bumping off of me this fall hope the demand slows down or becomes somewhat more regulated..pretty neat them 1 footers

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Old 12-01-2004, 05:20 PM   #32
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what I read in that is a lot of investigating and evaluating and not a whole lot of doin'.... if ya' catch my drift.
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exactly.. thats what i was saying. the problem here is that we have Omega Protien, which is a huge company.. they employ lots of people and i believe they even have people in washington fighting for more fishing of menhaden, so if it does pass and less menhaden are allowed to be harvested, people will loose their jobs.
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Old 12-01-2004, 06:28 PM   #33
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If a fisherie is regulated people are not going to lose there job its in the best Interest of recs, comercial, omega corp. its not like were closing down the menhaden fisherie. The benefits outweigh all others

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Old 12-01-2004, 07:18 PM   #34
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Thumbs down yank~mees

I've caught on the apollo popper and although I did give it a heck of a try I never caught anything on the montauk minnow. I had to buy one though because they named it the montauk minnow. How could you not buy a plug with the name montauk minnow? Generally I think the plugs suck~ but for the life of me I can't understand why the minnow never caught. I think I threw it into the middle of a bluefish blitz once and it got ignored!! Has anyone ever caught anything on the minnow?

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Old 12-01-2004, 08:28 PM   #35
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Generally I think the plugs suck~ but for the life of me I can't understand why the minnow never caught. I think I threw it into the middle of a bluefish blitz once and it got ignored!! Has anyone ever caught anything on the minnow?
Yeah---a few years ago, I came across some mullet off the beach here on LI, getting clobbered by bass. I figured it was now or never for that plug to catch. Threw it 3x beyond the school and swam it back---nada. Finally, the belly hook fouled on the leader, and it came back skating over the top. It got blasted--only fish I've ever caught on that plug

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Old 12-01-2004, 08:47 PM   #36
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If a fisherie is regulated people are not going to lose there job its in the best Interest of recs, comercial, omega corp. its not like were closing down the menhaden fisherie. The benefits outweigh all others
How old are you canal rat?? its simple math...People will lose thier jobs if menhaden catches are reduced. In the reduction fleets for example if the fishery is limited, less boats will go out. less fish coming in means less plants will be needed to process the fish. Right now the menhaden are regulated. Its just that the current regulations are wiping out all the menhaden in the mid atlantic.
That link you posted simply states that the ASMFC is going to look into tightening up regulations, and nothing about actually doing a thing to limit catches like you stated before. yes hopefully we will see bigger pogies around, but so far, the regs are staying just the same as years before.
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Old 12-01-2004, 10:04 PM   #37
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In my Humble Geologist Opinion (I'm no BI Jeff)
I think this new language is a new way of saying "yeah we know there's a problem, but we aren't going to much about it, other than pay some blowhard academic to look into it"...
Wait... I'm a blow hard academic

I miss the days of 12"+ pogies in the harbor... 12lb blues off S Dock was SOP back in the 80's... this summer the harbor blues were 3-7 pounds... disapointing... cause back in the day there were not as many big bass around....
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Old 12-02-2004, 10:00 AM   #38
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omega protein is big money with companies owned by our goverment leaders.lowering colesterol is one of the country's biggest goals.instead of getting the kids off of MacDonalds they give em a supplement in there food.its being tested in schools now in texas i think.Better hope they ain't got enough toilet tissue as one of the side effects is paper ass.An they decide to go a different route.If it works they will up the anty on the menhaden catches as they can an do manipulate the #'s as they see fit.in NJ we recently pushed the reduction boats out of state waters an it has done wonders for the fishing in the spring.But the jury is still out on the correllation between the 2.the bait boats are still allowed in up to a .6 of a mile an after time they eventually wipe em out but not like the reduction boats.O I like super strike bombers an Yo mama's hellcats/rebels an redfins ain't to bad either.
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Old 12-02-2004, 06:23 PM   #39
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thr fact there putting pogy oil in school food is nasty . if you want the healthy fatty acids in fish eat some fish not pogy oil. they banned pogy fishing in LI sound and theres tons of adult pogys in that area some regulations can go a long way

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