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Bronko · 01-31-2007, 12:48 PM

See ya! Joe Biden. As many are predicting this could have been the shortest Presidential Campaign in some time....

For those that haven't seen it yet, here is Biden on Barak Obama....

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

And were off!

The Dad Fisherman · 01-31-2007, 12:56 PM

He didn't really say that....did he?

Thats not too intelligent.

Bronko · 01-31-2007, 01:05 PM

Oh he said it a couple of hours ago. It will blow up shortly. The liberals don't even know how to spin it at. They are still in shock. Will they try the "mis-quote" angle or "botched joke" approach.

spence · 01-31-2007, 01:05 PM

Biden is probably one of the brightest people in the Senate. His Obama comment seems to be dead on...

-spence

Bronko · 01-31-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

Biden is probably one of the brightest people in the Senate. His Obama comment seems to be dead on...

-spence

There's an approach.

JohnR · 01-31-2007, 01:15 PM

It's like that billboard across the state "He's an articulate black man", no - it should properly read "He's an articulate man"...

If this is true and not taken out of context, it's more than a little oops. 'Course it will get piled on for the same reason a dog licks his you get the picture...

spence · 01-31-2007, 01:16 PM

Much ado about nothing...

I'd wager he meant clean as in clean cut. This is often how Biden speaks and seems to fit the context of his statement.

And John, I don't think there's any getting around the fact that part of Obama's appeal is that he's one of the first black figures that's has universal appeal.

Sounds like those who oppose political correctness are calling the kettle black.

-spence

The Dad Fisherman · 01-31-2007, 01:28 PM

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Sounds like those who oppose political correctness are calling the kettle black.

-spence

Personally, It doesn't bother me that he said that, but when you are out there hustling votes, saying something like that will cost you a few....from the people who DO care about what he said.

And the media is just waiting to find something to pounce on someone about.....you have to choose your words EXTREMELY carefully when you decide to run.

Bronko · 01-31-2007, 01:29 PM

The non-story angle doesn't play here, just ask John Kerry. News outlets like the conservative Drudge Report are already running.

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Even strict liberal Bloggers like DailyKos and Atrios are on it.

What exactly is a "Mainstream" African American anyway? I know I wouldn't be comfortable asking a black man if he is 'mainstream' or not.

Maccaca... "If not you'll get stuck in Iraq...."

Welcome aboard Joe.

PaulS · 01-31-2007, 02:28 PM

When he said "clean" do you think he was referring to his pers. hygeine or lack of scandal?

Bronko · 01-31-2007, 02:32 PM

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When he said "clean" do you think he was referring to his pers. hygeine or lack of scandal?

Not sure... I am still stuck on "mainstream."

PaulS · 01-31-2007, 02:38 PM

Is someone like Sharpton mainstream? Is Jesse J. mainstream?

spence · 01-31-2007, 02:42 PM

Mainstream as in universal appeal. No, Sharpton and Jackson don't have mainstream appeal outside of the black communities.

-spence

PaulS · 01-31-2007, 02:51 PM

You'd think the called someone a Macca or something!

MakoMike · 02-01-2007, 10:10 AM

Hoe did this end up here, instead of in the political section where its easier to ignore it?

RIJIMMY · 02-02-2007, 08:41 AM

Spence, you're alone on this one, every talk show I listen to, left and right, said he is done.
I agree with you that what he said was not that bad, but we're two white guys. There is no way the Dems will back him now and he is the most qualified Dem candidate. Strike another win for the Hillary machine, she signed a good contract with the man downstairs.

Raven · 02-02-2007, 09:13 AM

all this politically correctness is way over done and nauseating !

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were not that articulate

more like grandstanders with a preachy style of speaking imho

and with Jessie Jackson you barely make out what he's saying...

i think this is what Joe was "trying" to say.... although it didn't

turn out that way ... and i think it's crazy to eliminate one's whole

political career based upon a single sentence. Thats absurd.

Raven · 02-02-2007, 09:23 AM

I hereby Predict that Joe Biden will be our next president.

Thus far he's Still the Most presidential candidate i've seen.

and with all the Blunders that Bush has done..... it's like comparing a mountain to a mole hill.

spence · 02-02-2007, 09:32 AM

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Spence, you're alone on this one, every talk show I listen to, left and right, said he is done.

Don't agree...

For one it's a long time till the election, and two Biden is perhaps one of the most qualified in the field.

Regarding foreign policy, he's by my estimation clearly the leader of the pack. And this is going to be a huge qualifier come election time.

-spence

Bronko · 02-02-2007, 10:03 AM

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Don't agree...

For one it's a long time till the election, and two Biden is perhaps one of the most qualified in the field.

Regarding foreign policy, he's by my estimation clearly the leader of the pack. And this is going to be a huge qualifier come election time.

-spence

In my humble opinion, he won't be a factor. Even my liberal friends want him to go away. Nobody doubts his brains and eperience in FP matters, but sadly those qualifications, or lack thereof, aren't always the standard . Most liberals I know want the Gore, Kerry and Bidens of the world to step back and allow some new blood to emerge as party leaders.They see them as retreads and gumming up the works for a party looking to take contol of the oval office. I am confident Biden will not be that person.

spence · 02-02-2007, 11:50 AM

And my wife who's nearly a member of the socialist party loves him

Biden is a pragmatist and a centrist which is what the country is looking for right about now.

Hillary is the real target, she has all the money and most of the party power base bahind her. Yet a good portion of the country believe she isn't electable.

Biden and Richardson are the two moderate dems with the perfect resumes to capture the middle.

If Biden blows it my money is on Bill Richardson, but I'd like to see both.

-spence

Swimmer · 02-03-2007, 08:50 AM

How would have this played out if Bush had said what Biden said?

stripersnipr · 02-03-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Swimmer

How would have this played out if Bush had said what Biden said?

spence · 02-03-2007, 10:38 AM

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How would have this played out if Bush had said what Biden said?

I think people would have been stuck on how he butchered the pronounciation of "articulate"

But in all honesty, it would have just been par for the course. Biden gets special treatment because:

1) He does run his mouth
2) I don't think anybody really believes he is at all racist
3) He's a very smart and well respected person, so the assumption is that he's not going to leave himself open for this sort of time waster.

Listen to how carefully Clinton's or Bush's words are...it's programatic and sterile.

-spence