Wrecked 706 Z's

[NIB]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

True;


Rinse your gear... like I remember to do that

I'm the same way I'm lucky i can climb outta my truck when I'm done.Sometimes I do em on sunday..

[Tagger]

I'm still using the 7500 Nautil .. I consider them throw aways ,, never come apart ,, occaisionally rinse.. under water and rock falls alot . I have a couple of penn 704's but prefer the long cast spool on the Nautil and it likes braid .. I think its 3 yrs. now using that no complaints . I know there's some clunkers out there . Poor mans VS good to me . Its kinda like "Reel Wars" now with all the high end stuff battling .. I'd like to get something nicer but waiting for this dust to settle . Pretty much always fished conventional until recent years .

[shadow]

the z's are just about bullet proof and if any thing goes wrong it is always a easy quick fix. That you got to love.and for that resaon penn does not want to produce them.

[Goose]

I realy like the 704 packed, whether bailess or not. The reasons mentioned above are all good reasons why its one of the best bang for the buck reels. If your going to put alot of time into one reel and have it be dunked then your gonna spend alot of your time breaking it down, IMO this is where the VS stands above the rest no matter what you or mother nature throw at it, it remains the same. With alot of talk about smoothness of the two reels....if anywhere it should be looked for in the drag. Many guys own both, some a few of each and when the fish are in its almost always the VS or other high end reels their fishing with ,,not the Z's.

The same arrugment goes for rods, some break two or three rods a year, I fish alot too and never broke not even one unless through my thoughtlessness. So depending on who's telling the story I try and take that kind of stuff lightly.

[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by Goose

The same arrugment goes for rods, some break two or three rods a year, I fish alot too and never broke not even one unless through my thoughtlessness. So depending on who's telling the story I try and take that kind of stuff lightly.

I have to agree with that.

I rarely have a rod break, and several of my most used boat rods are the supposedly break prone IMX Loomis series. None of my surf rods have ever let go either. **knocks on wood...**

As for Z's, I know a friend of mine stripped the gears on several 704's. These were fairly recent models and he's prone to breaking things, so it's not necessarily a valid incident of breakage...

Most of the issues I see with Z's that come into the shop are due to extreme neglect. Quick rebuilds and they're up and running again.

[Steve K]

I use a 706z and the only time it failed was when the rotor nut came loose. I have fallen with it and it still keeps on going. Hard to fault these reels. I have thought about buying a VS but I can't bring myself to stop using the 706z.

[tattoobob]

1st off I would not buy a new VS, the older ones are the reels to have, that external counter weight sucks and that is and has been a problem for me. I own 3

2nd the z series, I don't like that the rotor cup spins freely I have lost a few plugs do to this and will not use one to throw plugs, I have also had problems with the reel locking up when trying to reel a good fish in. I own 3

3rd I like the ss series for dunking bait, worms or live lining I have never one had a problem with one of these. I own 3

I break down all my penn reels in the winter, and before fall and load them with grease. the VS's go get sent in and I have the serviced

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by NIB

I have never had one bind because of sand..The sand usually cranks right out..

None of mine have any paint left on the base of the spool

[bart]

love all three of my Z's

[Rob Rockcrawler]

I bought a 706z yesterday, still dont know if i will fish it or not. Not because im saving it, simply because i dont have a rod to match it up with. It was the only one left at the store i went too and figured i should pick it up.

[Pete F.]

I need an extra spool for my 706.(blatent hijack move)
Bob, if you make sure that the spool is out and handle down before you cast you won't have that problem.
I sorta think of them as M1s, you could probably field strip them in the dark if you practiced.

[tattoobob]

Originally Posted by bluefishercat

I need an extra spool for my 706.(blatent hijack move)
Bob, if you make sure that the spool is out and handle down before you cast you won't have that problem.
I sorta think of them as M1s, you could probably field strip them in the dark if you practiced.

Yah after loosing a few lures I learned that trick, they do break down easy though

[fishaholic18]

NIB...Send me all you wrecked reels please...

[Vogt]

I love the Penn 704's. I have never had one fail, and in the fall I fish with it 5-7 days a week. I also use one of the old Penn Spinnfisher 700's, which came out in the early 60's. These came out just before the "greenies"(they are a different shade of green). They are mechanically the same as 704's with the exception of the rotating flyer around a stainless steel rotor cup. I found this Spinnfisher 700 at a tag sale for 3 bucks, and since I have fished it locally and at Cuttyhunk with no problem. All it needed was a good cleaning.

[SeaWolf]

i've gone thru many 704's and 706's thru the years. it was my first work horse spin reel for the surf. i started w/ a green 706, which after a few years of using i learned to hate the roller noise, especially w/ a fish on. i graduated to a 706z, which was a little better, but had the same issues. the reels would be under water a lot during wading, so whatever oil was in the roller would be gone by the end of the night.

on the 706z, the side plates were plastic, so they never held a tight seal to the housing, not that the 704/6 series were all that water tight in general. so, water penetrated and about once every other month or so the reel would need to be completely taken apart and regreased. this could be every 2 weeks to 4 weeks in the fall depending on the number of trips in that time. the drags needed to be cleaned after every trip, or at least every other or else they stuck. every other week, new drag washers. all this got old quick.

the 704's were better, especially after making them manual rollers. no roller noise. drill a few holes in the rotor cup and you now had it wash out sand freely. but, again, it needed constant attention.

"babysitting" one or 3 of these thru the fall or thru the season gets old fast. i've had several start to seize during the middle of fishing trip after coming close to the window of needing a new greasing. the reels were not made for constant underwater abuse, so it was time to upgrade. i didn't have time to constantly babysit the reel each night and thru a fall run. if the reel was kept out of the water, or only an occasional dunking it was fine.

years ago i purchased a vs250. it was the best investment i made to my surf fishing purchases that year. no more babysitting the reel. all i needed to do was rinse the reel off, an occasional few drops of light oil on the shaft, roller, and handle and it was new. i gladly paid the $40, or now $50, to have the reel service then to constantly do it myself w/ a penn 70x thru a seaon.

this is not a bash of a penn 704/6 as much as it is my own experiences with the reel. i still use one as a backup reel, but it is not part of my primary surf arsenal. it all depends on how hard you fish and what you expect out of your reel/gear. for me, less TLC is important as time is of the essence sometimes.

[Mike P]

I kind of like servicing my 70-s. They let me suffer from the delusion--albeit short-lived---that I actually have some mechanical ability, instead of being your basic klutz with a wrench and screwdriver.

[bassmaster]

i have a green spool will trade for a plug

[Casting Z's]

Check this avatar out guys, what do you think?

[Casting Z's]

Thumbs up, down?

[Mike P]

Knock it off, guys

[basswipe]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Knock it off, guys

You're right Mike.I can't believe I got suckered into that.

You are the voice of reason here for sure.

[Mike P]

Play nice. We almost made it thru winter without a major pissing contest and I wanted to nip this one in the bud.

[basswipe]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Play nice. We almost made it thru winter without a major pissing contest and I wanted to nip this one in the bud.

Winter's almost over!Can't wait for those first fish!

[JohnR]

Yes, let's ratchet this down a bit. Z - don't get so wound up like the world is out to get you or something, because it is not.

Things not to take seriously: The Internet, more specifically the Internet in February instead of fishing...

Mike - this has been a pretty tame winter

[Casting Z's]

It's just for fun. Not personal at all. Why did you remove my post John? It wasn't that bad, was it?

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Casting Z's

It's just for fun. Not personal at all. Why did you remove my post John? It wasn't that bad, was it?

Actually I didn't remove your post and I did not see the entire thing, at first. If your trying to have some fun, not personal at all, why try to go tweak other people for grins and giggles? Makes you a tough guy or something? Not being the center of attention long enough?

As for your martyrdom or insult at the hand of the Z-Hordes, give it a rest... Is it that bad? Not really. But 2 things happen behind computer screens, people get lost in translation real quick and people hit the enter key before thinking if they really want to say what they're saying. I know, I do that a bit too

[Mike P]

The reason posts get removed is, moderators can't read minds. You and the guy you're dealing with might know it's all in fun. But there's 100 other guys looking in and they may take it seriously. One of them reports the post and the moderators have to make a seat of the pants call.

You need to get a little bit more of a track record before the mods can know whether your posts are done in fun. And the rest of the membership as well. Anyone who's been around here more than a few months knows that Flaptail and bassmaster often trade good natured insults, as well as Clammer, F-18 and #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. No one takes those "fights" seriously. No one ever asks a moderator to step in. You just need to have the guys here know you a little better. Removing a post is never done personally. The moderators here tend to be more low-key and let a lot more slide than is the practice at some other websites

[LeCounts1099]

Hi, my new name will be "Casting Gibbs!"

Gibbs are great!-- Gibbs are the best!-- My name is Gibbs!-- My avatar is Gibbs!-- I don't want to use anything but Gibbs plugs ever again!

Gibbs are SO great and so much better than the others, that I'm already completely convinced that their "Pro Series" Needles are superior to Habs and Saltys & BMs... even though I haven't had the chance to try it out yet! If Gibbs makes it or is behind it... then I just know intrinsically it will be the best & I throw away or sell whatever I was using 'till Gibbs came out with a competing plug. And who cares about various shapes & sizes?-- I'll use whatever size Gibbs makes, who cares about given conditions that day! At least I'll know I have the "right" plug even if in the "wrong" size! That's MY choice!

Oh... & you guys should do the same-- in fact I joined the site to tell you this! I'll never look back at the other Needles... now that "Pro Series" are finally here!


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(just having some fun before working!

[Casting Z's]

Originally Posted by LeCounts1099

Hi, my new name will be "Casting Gibbs!"

Gibbs are great!-- Gibbs are the best!-- My name is Gibbs!-- My avatar is Gibbs!-- I don't want to use anything but Gibbs plugs ever again!

Gibbs are SO great and so much better than the others, that I'm already completely convinced that their "Pro Series" Needles are superior to Habs and Saltys & BMs... even though I haven't had the chance to try it out yet! If Gibbs makes it or is behind it... then I just know intrinsically it will be the best & I throw away or sell whatever I was using 'till Gibbs came out with a competing plug. And who cares about various shapes & sizes?-- I'll use whatever size Gibbs makes, who cares about given conditions that day! At least I'll know I have the "right" plug even if in the "wrong" size! That's MY choice!

Oh... & you guys should do the same-- in fact I joined the site to tell you this! I'll never look back at the other Needles... now that "Pro Series" are finally here!


ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.............


(just having some fun before working!

Look at you go LeCounts, that's exactly what I was looking for!!!!!!
You the Man!
I'm just evolving into a product of your disdain.

[bassmaster]

gibbs makes a killer needle