WHo's going to the Race Pt Beach - Piping Plover/ORV Access meeting Saturday??

[2na]

Besides Rich and myself, I'll bet Flaptail,Tony C and Saltfly, but who else??

Rappin' Mikey, how 'bout you?

Let's fill the place up!

[Karl F]

I'm trying to shift work schedules...

[Flaptail]

I am planning on it.

[fishonnelsons]

I will be there, and I know Joe "Round-man" Mele and Franky from New York are going to make the trip.

Rest assured people will be there to speak against ANY work-around option's the Seashore set's forth, so we need people there to speak FOR the work-arounds.

Sat - 10 a.m. - Provincelands Visitor Center, Race Pt. Rd.

I will be at the shop before and after the meeting for those who want to shoot the $%#@.

[2na]

You got that right Rich - remember last time there was the girl from Sierra who stated that they didn't think we should drive the beach at all (at least she was honest about it), and the woman who said she represented 'my (her) ancestors, the people of the light' wouldn't want to see any creatures hurt and all live in harmony and that new age crap - you can bet they'll be there, and that they have sent their emails to the Seashore. A healthy turnout is a must.

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by ptmike

You got that right Rich - remember last time there was the girl from Sierra who stated that they didn't think we should drive the beach at all (at least she was honest about it), and the woman who said she represented 'my (her) ancestors, the people of the light' wouldn't want to see any creatures hurt and all live in harmony and that new age crap - you can bet they'll be there, and that they have sent their emails to the Seashore. A healthy turnout is a must.

Is this Mikey T.? If so I got a plug for you and will bring it Saturday.

[BigFish]

Gonna try my best to get there! 95% sure I will be there as it stands right now!

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by BigFish

Gonna try my best to get there! 95% sure I will be there as it stands right now!

Larry, bring some of your stuff with you. there are a couple people I want you to meet. Rich at Nelson's will have his shop open after. We can bs there and maybe go swim a few plugs somewhere.

[2na]

See you then Steve - as you can see, I'm getting all worked up. This beautiful late winter AM, no more ice - time to get our .02 in on being able to get out on our beach.

[Swimmer]

Good luck in your endeavors at the meeting.

[BigFish]

Okie Dokie Steve! See you tonight!

[saltfly]

rich;what time are you going to open b4? it would be good to plan the responses b4 than wish after.

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by saltfly

rich;what time are you going to open b4? it would be good to plan the responses b4 than wish after.

Good thinking Bob!

[fishonnelsons]

I'll be at the shop no later than 8 in the morning, heavily dependent upon my consumption the previous night (winters in Truro truly are tough!)

[capecodder]

Also sent in my email comment...

[Flaptail]

I have downloaded the the entire document. My hi-liter died half way through. Unbelievable. The talk with forked tongues. On one hand they say that orv use is appropriate, but only becuase a judge has deemed it so.

The history of the beginning of the end starting with Eastham because of the blizzard of 78 and then evil Wellfleet decided they wanted thier chunk closed. Domino theory anyone?

Pages 8 & 9 say it all. And that is thier intended goal, you can bank on it. Minimize and eliminate. love that term. Kinda reminds me of "surgical precision strike" in military terms.

The pages of items and life forms that need to be protected. Air quality, ozone propogation ( like 15 trucks on the beach have a more damaging effect on the ozone than the ten mile back up on rt 6 from the day triipers going to P-town to see the "sites" on an overcast July day.)

23 Agencies involved in making decisions, commenting and voting on our access. Remember, not all are fishing friendly.

An increase of 40.00 to 50.00 bucks to cover the lost revenue due to lost sales of permits. First off, they are trhe main cause of the lost revenue due to overbearing bureaucratic administration of the resource. And, since I had to do it myself this week, if the budget is down and costs exceed revenue, than you do what businesses and schools and town and state goverments do. You cut people!

If there are less users why do you need to have as many people on staff? Hell after 5pm we never see one on the beach anyway!

The writing is on the wall and between the lines. The end is near.

[fishonnelsons]

Boy, I thought I was cynical!!!!!!!!! You must be talking way to much with a cynic up this way!!

In all seriousness though, it is hard not to get pissed off when you read through it. The list of things we are trying to "protect" is endless. Truro was just deemed to have about 95% of it's total land mass home to every protected species known to man!!

Love the fact they raised the price of the weekly - "By the way, we raised the price even though your average days on the beach last year decreased significantly, we hope you don't mind as it really is still a deal". So higher costs, less bought, next year let's raise the price even more, that way less and less will come and we won't have to put up with this anymore. You are right Flap - they are not running it like a business, so you start to wonder if they really want to go out of that side of the business.

Now you got me in that cycle - thanks alot!

[bassmaster]

i cant read so i just drive on anyway

[Karl F]

And the sad part is.. No Unity amongst User Groups.. The daytripers blame the campers.. the campers isolate, most often forced to, by designation at P-town, and by the word at the gatehouse at Nauset, and do not appreciate the fishermen going by well above the 15 MPH speed limit, the fishermen hate everybody , as the surfers do, and the local chambers of commerce, bitch about lost business, but bring no meat to the table, other than to complain loud and often.. some business owners are active as individuals, but, I see zero input, fro the local Cahmbers..... a real shame, be cause all of the feel gooders unite, join there #'s and $'s, and sway the powers that be...

If we had as much unity, amongst those that love it so, and benifit from it, in SPITE of our differences, we could level the playing field a bit.

This is also done by design.. the powers that be know the differences amongst those that use the beach, so.. what to do... cram all of us in as small an area as possible.. what does that generate??, other than infighting.. so.. win win.. for those that want to close it...but bad for ALL of us...

Man.. this cynical chit is catchy!.. must be the weather..
But.. Please keep in mind.. when anyone starts pointing fingers, at anybody else on the beach, in a negative fashion.. you are only hurting yourself.....

I love it when I hear.. "Why give a buck to the Legal Fund for the MBBA??.. all they care about is the campers.". .. well..
WHO ELSE.. is trying to do ANYTHING, such as hiring a high powered law firm, or are they just content to point fingers and bitch and moan........
And do you honestly think that the beach would be limited to campers only?... gimme a break....I have driven campers, been a day tripper and a nightstalker with a fishing rod.. I've felt the hate from the powers that be, no matter what I'm driving in, or activity I'm participating in.....

Enuf.. Hope to see you tomorrow.. looks like about 90% good, right now...Everybody reach there own conclusion, but---->
keep unity in mind.. PLEASE.

[2na]

If you wish to read the Environmental Assessment, and be aware that it is 49 pages long, go to http://parkplanning.nps.gov/document...704&documentID =18087 and click on Cape Cod National Seashore Environmental Assessment OPTIONS ON MANAGING ORV ACCESS.)