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Old 09-01-2008, 06:54 PM   #1
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Obama has said all he right things about this situation. I give him credit. He also admitted that his mother was only 18 when he was born.
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Old 09-01-2008, 07:05 PM   #2
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You should be out of your freaking mind about Gloucester.
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Old 09-01-2008, 07:14 PM   #3
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You should be out of your freaking mind about Gloucester.
Wow, is this what you've degraded to? C'mon man, come up with a reasonable response.
And they're not my kids. Its not my problem.

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Old 09-02-2008, 06:25 AM   #4
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Wow, is this what you've degraded to? C'mon man, come up with a reasonable response.
And they're not my kids. Its not my problem.

Spoken like a true Liberal. Their the goverments problem
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:59 AM   #5
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Spoken like a true Liberal. Their the goverments problem
No, they're the parents problem since they're minors.
Jesus, have some personal responsibility.

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Old 09-02-2008, 07:18 AM   #6
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This sadly cracks me up.

As I sit on the fence that runs between Dems and 'Pubs I see vast seas of people on both sides launching arrows, mooning each other, spit balls and reading talking points from the Scritpers on both sides. I realize a few things:

I love America

I wish we would grow the bleep up.

OK, 'nuff said, back to our regularly scheduled program; "Is Palin's unborn grandchild really a surrogate son? Tune into CNN at 9 for the latest. Afterward, Larry King interviews the Personal Trainer for the Uncle of the next President (pending elections), Barry Obama with leaking news that VP candidate of the loosing party (pending elections) Sarah Palin is actually a cousin to President (pending elections), Barry Obama, several generations removed..."

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funny how alot of you are stating that its nobody's business but her and her family's and why are the Dems bringing this out and the liberal media yada yada yada

I thought the same thing about a certain president getting a hummer from a certain intern....didn't think it was anybody's business but his and his wife's....but that got slung across the news for weeks on end.

This is the reason you will NEVER have a good presidential candidate again...no one with any common sense would put themselves and their families through this

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funny how alot of you are stating that its nobody's business but her and her family's and why are the Dems bringing this out and the liberal media yada yada yada

I thought the same thing about a certain president getting a hummer from a certain intern....didn't think it was anybody's business but his and his wife's....but that got slung across the news for weeks on end.

This is the reason you will NEVER have a good presidential candidate again...no one with any common sense would put themselves and their families through this
It is when the hummer becomes a distraction for a nation and a risk to national security taht makes it news. I think at the time we could have had Osama from Sudan. And what the President does in the White House (and the judgement it showed) and what a 17 year old kid in Alaska does, is not quite the same. I wonder if any of the canadates or their immediate family, had unprotected sex before they were 18. Besides Obama's Mama.
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It is when the hummer becomes a distraction for a nation and a risk to national security taht makes it news.
It only became a distraction because certain individuals spent millions of dollars trying to prove it instead of just saying "Yikes, I'd hate to be him when Hillary finds out" and moving on.

personally I think that it has nothing to do with Liberals vesus Wingers....its just one group of childish a-holes trying to make another group of childish a-holes look bad. They're like a bunch of Prep-school cheerleaders.

They ALL play the same crap and its pretty friggin disheartening.



....and a risk to national security, give me a break, what, was there microfilm hidden in that cigar.

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It only became a distraction because certain individuals spent millions of dollars trying to prove it instead of just saying "Yikes, I'd hate to be him when Hillary finds out" and moving on.

personally I think that it has nothing to do with Liberals vesus Wingers....its just one group of childish a-holes trying to make another group of childish a-holes look bad. They're like a bunch of Prep-school cheerleaders.

They ALL play the same crap and its pretty friggin disheartening.


....and a risk to national security, give me a break, what, was there microfilm hidden in that cigar.
I can care less, but he lied under oath in a case against him by another woman he was banging. That I have an issue with as a President and a lawyer.

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Of course, Bristol Palin is not the first vice-presidential child to be pregnant out of wedlock. That honor goes to Mary Cheney. (Perhaps this is something the GOP vetting committee looks for?)

But at least Bristol is allowed to get married!!

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Old 09-02-2008, 02:36 PM   #12
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I can care less, but he lied under oath in a case against him by another woman he was banging. That I have an issue with as a President and a lawyer.
Come on. Lying in a deposition? As a lawyer you should know better. When was the last time you remember anyone being prosecuted for perjury arising out of a deposition in a civil lawsuit? I'm no big fan of Slick Willie, but to waste all that money on a political show trial, where the outcome was a foregone conclusion, was more of a crime than what Cigar Boy did. The GOP knew that there was no way in hell that 2/3rds of the Senate would ever vote to convict and remove him from office. But they went ahead tilting at windmills--why? To damage a lame duck President who was within 2 years of the end of his term? Wasn't McCain one of the few Republicans who voted to acquit, after all?

"The adversarial system rests on the naive assumption that out of the battle of lies, the truth will somehow emerge". Not my quote, but it sums it up pretty well.

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Old 09-02-2008, 07:24 AM   #13
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Is this the best our country can do, on both sides... its depressing
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Is this the best our country can do, on both sides... its depressing
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:33 AM   #15
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I think Obama handled it the right way. The media pounced, on both sides, and it wasn't right.

What it does raise, is any middle of the road people with mixed feelings or no opinion on abortion, is that if McCain/Palin is elected and appoint the judges they want, then another parent or child in the same situation as Palin's daughter will have less options down the road. I'm not for abortion as birth control, but the choice and option should be there. Not every 17y/o is ready for kids and marriage!

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Actually from a strategy perspective, looks like this may have been a brillinat choice by McCain
ST. PAUL, Minnesota (CNN) -- Key evangelical leaders rallied to Sarah Palin's support Monday amid news that her 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, was having a child.


Sarah Palin confirmed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant.

"Before, they were excited about her, with the Down syndrome baby," conservative, anti-tax activist Grover Norquist said. "But now with this, they are over the moon. It reinforces the fact that this family lives its pro-life values."

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"Before, they were excited about her, with the Down syndrome baby," conservative, anti-tax activist Grover Norquist said. "But now with this, they are over the moon. It reinforces the fact that this family lives its pro-life values."
And completely ignore her ABSTINENCE ONLY stance that she is ADAMANT about.

Worked great for her family!

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Old 09-02-2008, 01:09 PM   #18
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Those evangelicals all come from that uptight town in Footloose.

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Old 09-02-2008, 01:17 PM   #19
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This would be a non issue with most liberals. They would have aborted this baby long ago.

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This would be a non issue with most liberals. They would have aborted this baby long ago.
According to who?

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um... no.
agreed, no.

They would have the baby, blame society for their problem, go on welfare and then have more children with different fathers.

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agreed, no.

They would have the baby, blame society for their problem, go on welfare and then have more children with different fathers.
Good to see people here are no better than those on 'that other site'.

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agreed, no.

They would have the baby, blame society for their problem, go on welfare and then have more children with different fathers.
Sounds like one of my in-laws. She is no liberal, but she is from Brockton.
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True. Welfare recipients are largely apolitical as a voting block, though they characterize themselves as democrats - they tend not to show up on election day.
The "Liberal Elite" and the "East Coast Establishment" are not on welfare - they have education, jobs and their fingers on the buttons of most of our institutions - otherwise they would not be elite or part of the establishment.
Not all democrats are liberals. Just like not all conservatives are evangelicals.

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what other site?
You are constantly poking at the extreme of the right wing, can't take a little of it back?

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what other site?
You are constantly poking at the extreme of the right wing, can't take a little of it back?
Oh I can take it, its just getting tiring.

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Oh I can take it, its just getting tiring.
I wish you could step back and see how you and Nebe look.

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I wish you could step back and see how you and Nebe look.
You first.

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ok, I'll play nice...

I just read this - "Palin Supported Penalties for Using Skateboards on Public or Private Property in Wasilla."

Ouch, that will piss off abut 45% of Obama's supporters

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