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Old 03-29-2009, 07:42 AM   #1
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Bssb - learn how to say what you want the first time without editing and re-editing or we'll lock down editing time so you can't say one thing and then another every few minutes.

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Are there rules about adding to a post after I posted it? I didn't realize there were rules on what you can do with your own post. Seems like someone is trying to silence my opinion. Is this web site based in China or do we still have free speech?

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Fargo is all set Spence, because all the FEMA trailers are stored in Fargo for use everywhere else in the country. Fargo is where the formaldahyde factory is also. Plus all the those trailers that have all the ice stored in them for use everywhere are hidden in the woods there, because its so out of the way.

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Fargo is all set Spence, because all the FEMA trailers are stored in Fargo for use everywhere else in the country Spence. Fargo is where the formaldahyde factory is. Plus all the those trailers that have all the ice stored in them for use elsewhere are hidden in the woods there, because its so out of the way.
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Are there rules about adding to a post after I posted it? I didn't realize there were rules on what you can do with your own post. Seems like someone is trying to silence my opinion. Is this web site based in China or do we still have free speech?
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just don't edit your post. that's against the law. John will get you.
Actually, a couple things maybe you need to understand.

First, Free Speech is a constitutional right, not yelling "Fire in a Theater" or I'm a Conspiratorial Nitwit in an Internet Forum. Though on this Internet forum (especially the Political Talk) it is pretty rare for me or someone to edit someone's post.

As for your warning to Spence, as one of the more active soapboxers in these forums he knows that his opinion has rarely been silenced, maybe a whole two or three times in many many years. That applies to him, the Moonbats, the Freepers, and all.

Now the reason I am asking you to get it right the first time (at least most of the time) is because I'm seeing a trend here where you post a lot of crap in rapid fire and change it or clean it up a little afterward with multiple edits. Why don't you think first, figure out what you want to say next, and then post it in a manner that doesn't require you to edit a bunch of times. Couple things might happen but for one, people might take you more seriously.

As for the "rules", we periodically put a time limit on how long you can edit when someone uses "editing" frequently to take shots or post drivel. Thankfully it doesn't happen all too often by us uber right wing, great firewall of China censormeisters.

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As for your warning to Spence, as one of the more active soapboxers in these forums he knows that his opinion has rarely been silenced, maybe a whole two or three times in many many years. That applies to him, the Moonbats, the Freepers, and all.
I need to work harder then

Aside from the WeeWee battle many, many moons ago I can't think of any real censorship, and that was at my request!

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Strange, I havent heard a single peep from the whitehouse about Fargo.
No declaration of a state of emergency or anything. Other than the national guard being there, I haven't seen much as far as national interest. Same thing goes for the volcano in Alaska. I mentioned it to a friend here and he was surprised as he hadnt heard about it. I told him the flood and volcano have been going on for almost a week now.. National news seems to ignore those places that they can't get video of poor downtrodden people, begging for assistance. These same people that have become slaves to the government programs, that give them just enough welfare to not have to work, but never actually succeed (also keeping them in the Democrat pocket). If someone bussed in 100 people (mostly minorities) to Fargo pretending it was their homes in danger, it would be front page news.

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Strange, I havent heard a single peep from the whitehouse about Fargo.
No declaration of a state of emergency or anything. Other than the national guard being there, I haven't seen much as far as national interest. Same thing goes for the volcano in Alaska. I mentioned it to a friend here and he was surprised as he hadnt heard about it. I told him the flood and volcano have been going on for almost a week now.. National news seems to ignore those places that they can't get video of poor downtrodden people, begging for assistance. These same people that have become slaves to the government programs, that give them just enough welfare to not have to work, but never actually succeed (also keeping them in the Democrat pocket). If someone bussed in 100 people (mostly minorities) to Fargo pretending it was their homes in danger, it would be front page news.

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Strange, I havent heard a single peep from the whitehouse about Fargo.
No declaration of a state of emergency or anything.
It (the entire State of ND) was declared a Federal Disaster Area on Tuesday of last week.

Yesterday the President had this to say...

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Weekly Address
Saturday, March 28, 2009
Washington, DC

Even as we face an economic crisis which demands our constant focus, forces of nature can also intervene in ways that create other crises to which we must respond – and respond urgently. For the people of North and South Dakota and Minnesota who live along rivers spilling over their banks, this is one such moment.

Rivers and streams throughout the region have flooded or are at risk of flooding. The cities of Fargo and neighboring Moorhead are vulnerable as the waters of the Red River have risen. Thousands of homes and businesses are threatened.

That is why, on Tuesday, I granted a major disaster declaration request for the State of North Dakota and ordered federal support into the region to help state and local officials respond to the flooding. This was followed by an emergency declaration for the State of Minnesota. And we are also keeping close watch on the situation in South Dakota as it develops.

The Department of Homeland Security and the Federal Emergency Management Agency continue to coordinate the federal response. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is helping to oversee federal efforts and she remains in close contact with state officials. Acting FEMA administrator Nancy Ward has been in the region since yesterday to meet with folks on the ground and survey the area herself.

In addition, The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is assisting in the emergency construction of levees. The Coast Guard is aiding in search and rescue efforts while the Department of Defense is helping to move people and supplies. Members of the National Guard have been activated and are on the scene as well.

Hospitals and nursing homes in the area are being evacuated and residents in poor health or with special needs are being transported to higher ground. Teams from the Department of Health and Human Services are aiding in this work. And the Red Cross is in place to provide shelter and supplies for folks in need.

It is also important for residents in these states to remain vigilant in monitoring reports on flood crests and to follow instructions from their state and local leaders in the event that evacuations become necessary.

My administration is working closely with Governors John Hoeven, Mike Rounds and Tim Pawlenty. And I’ve been meeting with Senators Byron Dorgan, Kent Conrad, and Amy Klobuchar, as well as Congressmen Earl Pomeroy and Collin Peterson, to pledge my support. I will continue to monitor the situation carefully. We will do what must be done to help in concert with state and local agencies and non-profit organizations – and volunteers who are doing so much to aid the response effort.

For at moments like these, we are reminded of the power of nature to disrupt lives and endanger communities. But we are also reminded of the power of individuals to make a difference.

In the Fargodome, thousands of people gathered not to watch a football game or a rodeo, but to fill sandbags. Volunteers filled 2.5 million of them in just five days, working against the clock, day and night, with tired arms and aching backs. Others braved freezing temperatures, gusting winds, and falling snow to build levees along the river’s banks to help protect against waters that have exceeded record levels.

College students have traveled by the busload from nearby campuses to lend a hand during their spring breaks. Students from local high schools asked if they could take time to participate. Young people have turned social networks into community networks, coordinating with one another online to figure out how best to help.

In the face of an incredible challenge, the people of these communities have rallied in support of one another. And their service isn’t just inspirational – it’s integral to our response.

It’s also a reminder of what we can achieve when Americans come together to serve their communities. All across the nation, there are men, women and young people who have answered that call, and millions of other who would like to. Whether it’s helping to reduce the energy we use, cleaning up a neighborhood park, tutoring in a local school, or volunteering in countless other ways, individual citizens can make a big difference.

That is why I’m so happy that legislation passed the Senate this week and the House last week to provide more opportunities for Americans to serve their communities and the country.

The bipartisan Senate bill was sponsored by Senator Orrin Hatch and Senator Ted Kennedy, a leader who embodies the spirit of public service, and I am looking forward to signing this important measure into law.

In facing sudden crises or more stubborn challenges, the truth is we are all in this together – as neighbors and fellow citizens. That is what brought so many to help in North Dakota and Minnesota and other areas affected by this flooding. That is what draws people to volunteer in so many ways, serving our country here and on distant shores.

Our thanks go to them today, and to all who are working day and night to deal with the disaster. We send them our thoughts, our prayers, and our continued assistance in this difficult time.

Thank you.
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That's great new, no FEMA.

And they're busing in STUDENTS to help. Now that is government in action.
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That's great new, no FEMA.

And they're busing in STUDENTS to help. Now that is government in action.
Well, yes FEMA.

And I think this task might be a bit below the USMC. Sounds like they have the Army Corps of Engineers in charge and why not leverage a young, fit and local talent pool who has nothing else to do? Doesn't take a lot of training to fill a sandbag, just some strength and determination.

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Kinda like what we still need in Jefferson an St Bernard Parishs
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I guess I missed that on the news yesterday. Thanks for posting that. Point goes to Spence. One thing concerns me though from his speech,

"That is why I’m so happy that legislation passed the Senate this week and the House last week to provide more opportunities for Americans to serve their communities and the country.

The bipartisan Senate bill was sponsored by Senator Orrin Hatch and Senator Ted Kennedy, a leader who embodies the spirit of public service, and I am looking forward to signing this important measure into law."

What legislation was that? Hopefully not the precursor to the one I've heard about that will eventually require youth to serve in some role of community or military service. Kinda makes my "spidey senses" tingle. People already have all the opportunities in the world to help, something like this is more than likely going to require it in some way.

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What legislation was that? Hopefully not the precursor to the one I've heard about that will eventually require youth to serve in some role of community or military service. Kinda makes my "spidey senses" tingle. People already have all the opportunities in the world to help, something like this is more than likely going to require it in some way.
Doesn't appear so from the description on Hatch's site...

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HATCH, KENNEDY BILL RENEWS CALL FOR NATIONAL SERVICE
Serve America Act To Increase Service Opportunities for All Americans


WASHINGTON – In coming days, Senators Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) will introduce new legislation, the “Serve America Act,” to expand opportunities for service for all Americans. The legislation will ask 175,000 more Americans to give a year of service to address specific national challenges, thereby expanding the number of national service participants to 250,000. The legislation will also increase opportunities for individuals to serve at every stage of their life and will support nonprofit organizations and social entrepreneurs with innovative solutions to our most pressing problems.

“Time and again we’ve learned that large numbers of Americans are ready, willing, able, and even eager to be involved in service, and that all we have to do is ask them to do so. The Serve America Act will ask. It will connect every generation through service, and enable them to help tackle a wide range of national challenges, from the dropout crisis that plagues our schools to the lack of health care in our neediest communities to the energy and environmental crisis that threatens our planet,” said Senator Kennedy, Chairman of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, which oversees existing national and community service programs. “Many Americans are already answering the call to such service, by weatherizing homes, mentoring students, or working to bring clean water and life-saving vaccines to peoples in many lands. This legislation will dramatically expand opportunities for Americans willing to devote a year or more to address such challenges. It will draw on the talents and skills of every age group, such as by expanding opportunities for young people to improve their communities, and enabling retiring ’baby boomers‘ to transition to second careers in public service.”

Senator Hatch said, "Volunteer service is the lifeblood of our republic. It brings out the best in people and strengthens our communities. Throughout history, Americans have stepped forward and volunteered to meet every challenge. Within each of us is a desire to help and serve our neighbors the world over; and yet, the hectic lifestyle we all live often crowds out our natural ability to give service. That is why my longtime friend, Senator Kennedy, and I are introducing The Serve America Act. This historic legislation will inspire and provide opportunities for civic-minded Americans to raise the bar of service and fulfill the destiny of the immortal words of ‘America the Beautiful,’ to ‘more than self their country love. And mercy more than life!'

"America faces more challenges today than ever before. And new challenges require a new level of commitment. By harnessing the talents and efforts of the American people, faith-based groups and nonprofit organizations, we can empower more people, improve more communities and tackle more of our nation’s greatest challenges. That is precisely the intent of this bill, and I’m pleased to be working alongside Senator Kennedy to champion this important legislation."
Considering your posts the last few weeks, I'd have to ask the last time your "spidey sense" was serviced? Perhaps it's time for a tune-up

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Doesn't appear so from the description on Hatch's site...



Considering your posts the last few weeks, I'd have to ask the last time your "spidey sense" was serviced? Perhaps it's time for a tune-up

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Nope, thats the legislation I was thinking about, I guess it all depends on how hard they "ask" people to volunteer and exactly what he uses his new army of "volunteers" for.
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How come Obama didn't bring up the Bush mistakes from Katrina? Are you sure that's his speach?
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One concern I have is, as a "Community Organizer" who actually trained Acorn activists, will Acorn be one of these community service groups? And besides the money he has already given them, how much more will they receive?
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One concern I have is, as a "Community Organizer" who actually trained Acorn activists, will Acorn be one of these community service groups? And besides the money he has already given them, how much more will they receive?
Hopefully a lot of money. That way they can use it to by drugs and keep the inner city folks doped up and use their ID's to vote in different states

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How come Obama didn't bring up the Bush mistakes from Katrina? Are you sure that's his speach?
Obama just says what the "teleprompter" tells him to say.

Here's an example of when Mr. Teleprompter lets him down.

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Obama just says what the "teleprompter" tells him to say.

Here's an example of when Mr. Teleprompter lets him down.
I'd like to see you give 2-5 public addresses per day, often each one about a unique topic, and *you* be able to memorize each one.

At least he isn't making up words like the bumbling idiot that just left office.
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I'd like to see you give 2-5 public addresses per day, often each one about a unique topic, and *you* be able to memorize each one.

At least he isn't making up words like the bumbling idiot that just left office.
He's not writing them or prereading them either
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I was thinking that if they made that movie, that was so damn funny, "Fargo", when it was flooded like it is now, with all the plots and sublots it could have been even more hysterical than it was, "yah", and "oh yah".

On the other hand Fargo is not someplace I would readily live after watching the high water level.

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Frankly, the lack of needed comments is probably what is best about this!
IF it was all hitting the fan w/o Federal support, then it would be a huge deal. Like Spence indicated, the proper steps seem to have been taken...

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Frankly, the lack of needed comments is probably what is best about this!
IF it was all hitting the fan w/o Federal support, then it would be a huge deal. Like Spence indicated, the proper steps seem to have been taken...
In one breath, the economy is the biggest deal. All other issues should be put on the back burner. In the next breath, "The President isn't doing enough for this small town," and this is after the announcement of the Army Corp of Engineers being dispatched, systems being in place to find volunteers and resources being allocated to the area. Apache helicopters are being used to transport 1-ton bags of sand to reinforce week areas of the wall - seems pretty obvious that the federal government is doing something.

The crazy part is that they're actually being proactive as opposed to reactive. Maybe Obama should be talking about Bush's failings.

Obama also isn't on some publicity stunt to fly into the area and "survey the damage," which would accomplish nothing but hindering progress, just as it did when Bush went to New Orleans.
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In one breath, the economy is the biggest deal. All other issues should be put on the back burner. In the next breath, "The President isn't doing enough for this small town," and this is after the announcement of the Army Corp of Engineers being dispatched, systems being in place to find volunteers and resources being allocated to the area. Apache helicopters are being used to transport 1-ton bags of sand to reinforce week areas of the wall - seems pretty obvious that the federal government is doing something.

The crazy part is that they're actually being proactive as opposed to reactive. Maybe Obama should be talking about Bush's failings.

Obama also isn't on some publicity stunt to fly into the area and "survey the damage," which would accomplish nothing but hindering progress, just as it did when Bush went to New Orleans.
Come on JD. We all saw the same Federal action after Katrina. Fargo's been drowning for days also. Not sure what proactive action has been undertaken.

How the hell you make a statement about Bush" hindering progress" is beyond me. You know, that if he had no showed like Obama, he would have been ripped by the media.
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