60.85 Lber wieghed for the Cup! - Page 2 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

MarshCappa · 07-06-2010, 03:46 PM

I'm not really ragging on the guy or anybody else who kills a fish like that. I won't go as far to say that I can even come close to figuring out what our problem is up here and don't find fault in what is happening in waters south of here. I'm just curious as to how old a fish like that is and what the guy is going to do with it after the pics are taken. It's a major accomplishment to land that fish and my hat is off to him.

tattoobob · 07-06-2010, 04:51 PM

Awesome Fish congrats to the angler

Notaro · 07-06-2010, 09:40 PM

congrats =)

JohnnyD · 07-07-2010, 12:45 PM

I'm surprised no "bait is easy" posts yet.

CowHunter · 07-07-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I'm surprised no "bait is easy" posts yet.

You guys have a serious Problem with the bait and it WILL Keep getting worse... In NJ this year we had the Pogie boats, Arc Bait and Several boats from NC in our waters... What does that say? New England is getting wiped out and so is the south.... The Boats were kicked out a few years ago to limit them .6 miles offshore. Wish that was enough because this year they made it up this way and wiped out all the bait that was normally hanging .6 toa few miles out. It got really ugly here. just look at all the threads "Bunker wars" on some of the other boards. Well I can say, although the damage was done with pogies and pitch forking dead bass, rest assured those boats will not be allowed in state waters next year.... All the Charter Boats and rec guys banded together and did something about it! The sit back, watch, do nothing but bitch about it attitude did alot of damage up in new england, first herring and now pogies.... It will get worse, along with the fishing, most impacted will be the surf guys since those pogies gravitate to harbors, rivers. When they pour in and pour out what is waiting? Just look at the surf catches of NJ and Long Island the last few years... In the late 90's early 2000's it was horrible, now look at it... Fix The bait!!

RIJIMMY · 07-07-2010, 12:52 PM

Huh? What does my fishing have to do with this? I released all the fish I caught in previous years.
And for your info, there where PLENTY of bunker in the bay this year. They never disappeared, but come mid-June they are mostly way up in the rivers, sometimes they are in a few harbors. This year was the same as previous years bait wise. Stripers are a different story.

RIJIMMY · 07-07-2010, 12:59 PM

I rest easier knowing I dont contribute to the decline of a gamefish. We all have to answer to ourselves in the end. I dont hold anything against anyone in the striper cup, commercial fisherman or anyone who keeps their limit. i get pissed when people with an opinion against the majority get jumped on and called jealous or other things, which is foolish. From my view, some guys out here just want to plan their lips firmly on the a$$ of great fisherman, they dont have the balls to speak their minds. If you dont want an opinion, dont post.

BigFish · 07-07-2010, 01:01 PM

The only logical way you can keep from contributing to the decline of striped bass is to not fish for them at all! Again though....why do people have to piss all over a thread to voice their own little agendas???

RIJIMMY · 07-07-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

The only logical way you can keep from contributing to the decline of striped bass is to not fish for them at all! Again though....why do people have to piss all over a thread to voice their own little agendas???

Im not pissin on the guys fish, Im aiming at those who attacked the previous posts. read the thread.

BigFish · 07-07-2010, 01:05 PM

I have read it! The thread was posted to congratulate a fellow angler on a great accomplishment!! If you can't stay in line with the purpose of the thread then you are "off topic" and should start your own thread about catch and release!

Jim in CT · 07-08-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

The only logical way you can keep from contributing to the decline of striped bass is to not fish for them at all! Again though....why do people have to piss all over a thread to voice their own little agendas???

As a disclaimer, I caught a 59 pounder once that I knew was the biggest striper in the Fisherman magazine's annual dream boat contest, and so I kept the fish (and alas, didn't win the 24 foot Triton, even though I was contacting marinas to reserve a slip). I felt, and still feel, awful about it. I did eat all the fillets (which tasted just like a 29" fish), but I did feel guilty about killing what was at least a 25 year-old fish.

That being said, I don't think he "pissed" all over the thread (not if you take the time to read what he actually wrote). And if his agenda is the health of the stock, I wouldn't trivialize it as his "own little agenda", because that's my agenda, and yours, too.

I don't begrudge anyone else keeping a trophy. If I had thousands of dollars to gain in a contest, money that could go in my kids' 529 plans, I'd probably keep another. I wouldn't do it just for a keepsake though, but that's just my $0.02.

And I don't see the relevence of suggesting you can't preach release unless you have caught one that big. Using that logic, I could say no one can support that guy unless you caught one that big, and few of us have.

Sea Dangles · 07-07-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I rest easier knowing I dont contribute to the decline of a gamefish. We all have to answer to ourselves in the end. I dont hold anything against anyone in the striper cup, commercial fisherman or anyone who keeps their limit. i get pissed when people with an opinion against the majority get jumped on and called jealous or other things, which is foolish. From my view, some guys out here just want to plan their lips firmly on the a$$ of great fisherman, they dont have the balls to speak their minds. If you dont want an opinion, dont post.

Striped bass are NOT a gamefish Jimmy. Maybe that is a good place to start.
I don't know the angler and have never heard of him either,he could just be lucky for all I know. In my opinion that fish deserved an attaboy. I don't plan on"planning" my lips anywhere near him.I must admit Bloo was smooching up to Ken a little too much though.Ken, please send Bloo an autographed picture for the headboard.

RIJIMMY · 07-07-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Striped bass are NOT a gamefish .

really? defeats the whole purpose of this website.

Definition:
gamefish - A fish prized for the sport involved in catching it.

a little more info if you want Wiki - specifically mentions SB

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_fish

AND - holy crap, the IGFA (the GF stands for Game Fish) actually has a world record for Striped Bass!

bloocrab · 07-07-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

...Ken, please send Bloo an autographed picture for the headboard...

Sea Dangler, that would be for the ceiling, not the head board....and show me your spots, and I'll smooch with you too

..don't hate the playa, hate the game.

Jimmy...my comments were meant for SweetWater's (stupid post), uncalled for....if you took it personally or felt impelled to defend somebody....oh well I could care less....you keep releasing em, I'll keep eatin' em. Same debate all the time on here.....this site's turned into a bunch of drama-queens.,,,

Hi CowHunter,,, I LOVE YOU, can you take me fishing??? pleeeease!!!!
I better stop before it gets ugly.

Nebe · 07-07-2010, 04:11 PM

boatfish dont count

Sweetwater · 07-08-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

boatfish dont count

Both Tony Stetzko and Charlie Cinto have 73 lb'ers to their credit. Cinto's was from a boat and Stetzko's from the beach. I've never once heard anyone diminish Cinto's fish from Sow and Pigs vs. Stetzko's from Nauset Beach (or there abouts). Beach or boat, and 73 lb'er is a fish of a lifetime.

Boatfish count.

luds · 07-07-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bloocrab

Sea Dangler, that would be for the ceiling, not the head board....and show me your spots, and I'll smooch with you too

..don't hate the playa, hate the game.

Jimmy...my comments were meant for SweetWater's (stupid post), uncalled for....if you took it personally or felt impelled to defend somebody....oh well I could care less....you keep releasing em, I'll keep eatin' em. Same debate all the time on here.....this site's turned into a bunch of drama-queens.,,,

Hi CowHunter,,, I LOVE YOU, can you take me fishing??? pleeeease!!!!
I better stop before it gets ugly.

Queens.......haven't heard that one in a while.

RIJIMMY · 07-07-2010, 01:08 PM

point taken, I will graciously bow out.

InTheHole · 07-07-2010, 03:18 PM

Congrats to the angler, that is an awesome fish ( and I would have that fish in the box in a heart-beat ).....
It also appears that this was not so random ( lucky).... Mr. Noto is on the board in the window in the 2nd picture with a 50+ fish already weighed in.

Plum Crazy · 07-07-2010, 03:26 PM

AWESOME FISH! Congrats to the guy. It's a beauty.

Mr. Sandman · 07-08-2010, 06:07 AM

Isn't this stiper cup fun??? whoohoo!

CowHunter · 07-08-2010, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

Isn't this stiper cup fun??? whoohoo!

Its the usual handful of Hardcore catch and release "stripers4ever" gamefish guys that arent even fishing the cup, just waiting on the beach waiting for the fish to come to them.... (But they are putting in alot of time- Just havent been LUCKY Yet).
The same guys are always crying when somebody kills a 40, 50, or 60.... Its funny, I have yet to see a single majestic pic of even a schoolie being released from some of those guys...

Dont worry, Maybe if everybody stops killing these big fish, you to can get Lucky because then it will be easy!?!?!? JUST TEASING! The same guys will continue to get lucky and kill 40's,50's, and 60's every year....

STRIPER CUP!!!!!!!

RIJIMMY · 07-08-2010, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CowHunter

Its the usual handful of Hardcore catch and release "stripers4ever" gamefish guys that arent even fishing the cup, just waiting on the beach waiting for the fish to come to them.... (But they are putting in alot of time- Just havent been LUCKY Yet).
The same guys are always crying when somebody kills a 40, 50, or 60.... Its funny, I have yet to see a single majestic pic of even a schoolie being released from some of those guys...

Dont worry, Maybe if everybody stops killing these big fish, you to can get Lucky because then it will be easy!?!?!? JUST TEASING! The same guys will continue to get lucky and kill 40's,50's, and 60's every year....

STRIPER CUP!!!!!!!

Its funny you have to insult people to try and make a point. I've barely posted on catch and release and am far from a hardcore tree hugger. I get riled up when people, like you, need to insult others because the have different opions. I'm not one of them, but there are a lot of guys on this board that are very good fisherman, who catch cows and release them . I respect them more than those that kill for glory. And thats the point, its not for food, its for glory. I have no problem with commercial guys, they're making $. Its a job. People eat bass and they supply it.
I'll share one last thing, take it for what you will - many guys know I've went on and on about my Dad. Its 5yrs now that he is gone, he is one of the best fisherman I've ever know- never caught a striper from a boat, never went to Block, Cutty, never wore a wetsuit. He fished So County RI and Stratford/Bridgeport Ct. Mostly eels onley He has a bunch of 40s and 50s, alone, no buddies, no fishing clubs, just him. When he was in bed dying of cancer at 65, he said Jim, "I caught a lot of fish, a lot of big fish. I wish I never killed those 50s, what a waste" 100% true story. Everytime we looked at pics, my Mom would say, your dad always regretted keeping those fish. So to each his own, I've got something I need to carry on and someones legacy I need to preserve. Someday all that will matter is that you caught them.

CowHunter · 07-08-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Its funny you have to insult people to try and make a point. I've barely posted on catch and release and am far from a hardcore tree hugger. I get riled up when people, like you, need to insult others because the have different opions. I'm not one of them, but there are a lot of guys on this board that are very good fisherman, who catch cows and release them . I respect them more than those that kill for glory. And thats the point, its not for food, its for glory. I have no problem with commercial guys, they're making $. Its a job. People eat bass and they supply it.
I'll share one last thing, take it for what you will - many guys know I've went on and on about my Dad. Its 5yrs now that he is gone, he is one of the best fisherman I've ever know- never caught a striper from a boat, never went to Block, Cutty, never wore a wetsuit. He fished So County RI and Stratford/Bridgeport Ct. Mostly eels onley He has a bunch of 40s and 50s, alone, no buddies, no fishing clubs, just him. When he was in bed dying of cancer at 65, he said Jim, "I caught a lot of fish, a lot of big fish. I wish I never killed those 50s, what a waste" 100% true story. Everytime we looked at pics, my Mom would say, your dad always regretted keeping those fish. So to each his own, I've got something I need to carry on and someones legacy I need to preserve. Someday all that will matter is that you caught them.

Understandable, thats good for him, but he still killed em and just because he regrets it doesnt mean others should not kill a trophy.... Question? How long did it take for smart remarks and insults to be made at that guy for killing the fish???? Its the same people everytime...

numbskull · 07-08-2010, 08:49 AM

I figured you'd go ballistic and so I tried to make it clear the guy deserves what he catches and that specialized large bait fishing for large fish is a skill just like other skills in fishing.

If you don't feel luck is involved as well, then we disagree.

CowHunter · 07-08-2010, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

I figured you'd go ballistic and so I tried to make it clear the guy deserves what he catches and that specialized large bait fishing for large fish is a skill just like other skills in fishing.

If you don't feel luck is involved as well, then we disagree.

Of Course there is some Luck, Always is! But there is a reason you see the same guys off the surf and off the boat consistantly catching slobs....

I cant help myself for going Ballistic!

numbskull · 07-08-2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CowHunter

Dont worry, Maybe if everybody stops killing these big fish, you to can get Lucky because then it will be easy!?!?!? JUST TEASING!

This is not teasing, it is fact. I fish inefficently, and nowhere near as hard as many. I need a lot more big fish around and a lot more luck to land a 40lb fish, nevermind a 60. No way I "deserve" a 60, and certainly this guy (and you as well) probably do.

How I fish, is my choice and I accept the consequences. Excuse me, however, if large boat fish taken on bait do not impress me as much as they impress you. To each their own.

CowHunter · 07-08-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

This is not teasing, it is fact. I fish inefficently, and nowhere near as hard as many. I need a lot more big fish around and a lot more luck to land a 40lb fish, nevermind a 60. No way I "deserve" a 60, and certainly this guy (and you as well) probably do.

How I fish, is my choice and I accept the consequences. Excuse me, however, if large boat fish taken on bait do not impress me as much as they impress you. To each their own.

I understand that completely... Wish I could fish more myself the way I want but I cant.. I did 60 trips on the water this year and only fish 5 days so imagine what thats like. The time I have left for me has to count!
I put alot of time off the surf over the years and yes, it is more challenging and rewarding to land a slob of SE Light Block Island and I would take a 60 that way Anyday, heck the way Ive been tossed around out there swimming to the outer rocks.... But what a rush I must say, 2-30-300am on a commerial day, 25-30 knots out of the SW, 5 boats attempted to make it out of the harbor got slammed by waves in the dark breaking over the bow turned around and came back in saying its impossible... What a challenge, running in the dark, walls of water, wind howling, running through quicks, wind against tide, huge wave breaks into the boat, turned side ways, bailing water, 1000's lbs water in the boat, giving throttle, wont budge... Barely make it through, continue on, now through Gay Head... Vineyard sound, what a mess! Sun Cracks, Not a boat in site, on the fishing grounds and what a bite!! 800lbs on the deck, and boy do they Count!

I get in my rambles, point is Boat and surf is as challenging as we make it.... Take the surf guy that fishes a frozen bunker head on a flat calm high noon day, dead sticked, sipping margharitas in a lawn chair.... Guess a 60 caught by him is more well deserved because its off the surf...

Starting Monday its 24 days straight... Enjoying the little break I have!

Green Light · 07-07-2010, 07:42 PM

Impressive.

Kudos to the angler.

numbskull · 07-07-2010, 08:26 PM

Ask yourself just what makes it impressive.

Its size? Well obviously, but the fisherman had nothing to do with that.

The technique? Uh.....no. Nothing too special about live-lining large baits for bass. Takes work, and some skill, but hey that is what these fish eat so it hardly qualifies as special.

The tackle. Doubtful. Good bet he had a serious reel, stout rod, and heavy line. And a boat.

The knowledge, dedication, and time he put in to get it? Well that is commendable, but hardly impressive.....loads of guys do the same.

Its value? Yeah, winning a 1000 bucks with a fish I guess can be impressive.

What I think really impresses us is his luck. And before you go ballistic, I don't doubt he is a good and deserving fisherman. But so are thousands of other guys who never get this lucky. It is the fact that it can and does happen, so therefore it can and may happen to us that really impresses us. It is more about the fish itself and ourselves than the guy in the picture.

Now if he had released it.....THAT would say something impressive about him. He didn't (which is OK) and so he'll remain a very good fisherman who got lucky and got his reward and deserves congratulations.......but it is the fish, not him, who was impressive. Too bad it is gone now.