Goldenrod Foundation

[Rmarsh]

Originally Posted by WESTPORTMAFIA

Id like to smash his face in. Its pretty sad that the town doesn't have enough money to fight them in court. Unreal.

Whoa there! Wait...I agree, punch in the face seems fitting.

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by influx99

Plymouth beach for all (except for non-Plymouth residents, unless I am missing something in the orv sticker application. Just sayin.)
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I don't use this beach .. If this happens there could start a trend evrywhere. If it hasn't already .

[Plum Crazy]

Influx that is very true. It is a resident only beach but precedence can steamroll down the coast. What happens in Plymouth can have a huge effect on what happens everywhere. We can not allow people like this to take our access away.
If Goldenfraud wins this battle just think of how many whack jobs will come out of the woodwork and start suing your town and your beach. They have taken enough already.

* Goldenrod wants to shut down the beach to ALL human activity. It is only a resident only beach for a drive on permit. Anyone can walk on. If they get their way nobody will be allowed on that beach.

[Plum Crazy]

...and if you think that is bad check out this article. It seems that non-profit organizations do not have to pay the lawyers even when they lose because of the ESA. Essentially we are paying for our own demise. The lawyers win either way.
Environmental Lawsuits Rake in Billions for Lawyers | NowPublic News Coverage

[capequahog]

more like GoldenNIMBYrod foundation, tax exempt part is unbelievable on top of everything else, this situation as far as beach access goes has to be the worst yet, if I was a Plymouth taxpayer this would be the deathmatch

[Plum Crazy]

That beautiful wrap around deck on their "personal" property is brand spanking new. I wonder how much that disturbed the birds while it was being built. They also do not want boats coming near or landing at the point. They say the wake from the boats disturbs the birds. They are out of control NUTS! When confronted they stumble and grasp at straws. They are bigots, they only want people on their side to post on their page. LMAO they recently asked for pictures of shorebirds for a new calendar. I had pics of a bird I rescued from being beat in the surf, taking shelter from the wind against my cooler. They didn't pick mine, must have been the coexistance thing stopping them.

[WESTPORTMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Rmarsh

Whoa there! Wait...I agree, punch in the face seems fitting.

Watching his wig fly off would be pretty funny stuff if you ask me. But a guy like this would sue the #^&#^&#^&#^& out of you. Pure scumbag!!!

[animal]

It has already been established that if these effers get their way,the rest of the state would be inclined to follow along.As a precedent would be set,that noone had the $ to oppose in court.If I was a M#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&(which,I'm glad I'm not)I'd take this very seriously.

[Plum Crazy]

Originally Posted by WESTPORTMAFIA

Watching his wig fly off would be pretty funny stuff if you ask me. But a guy like this would sue the #^&#^&#^&#^& out of you. Pure scumbag!!!

Hecker is a Duxbury resident but he is not fighting to protect shorebirds in his own hometown. Wonder why? No money in it I guess.

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by animal

I think the best approach would be to rat them out to the IRS.They are losing out on a good deal of tax money,and they can afford to go after these #^&#^&#^&#^&ebags.Anyone know an irs agent?

The Mass DOR are the people to call and complain to about this fraud..........................

[Swimmer]

Drive out to Saquish and see what the residents do to the fencing the bird freaks put up. Kindling wood is one their favorites uses.

[Fly Rod]

They are the same type of people that belong to Stripers for Ever. They want everthing for them selves.

[influx99]

I am not saying preserving access is not the most important issue shore fishermen face. I hate how hard it is to access many areas. I just find it ironic that the organization is called Plymouth beach for all when it is resident-only for orv permits. We all know that without vehicle access, in particular parking, the beach can be called "public" but that's really pretty disingenuous is only residents are allowed. Just a gripe I have with MA beaches in general. It's only a step away from what these whack jobs want to do, if you think about it. It's all about limiting access.
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[Plum Crazy]

Originally Posted by influx99

I am not saying preserving access is not the most important issue shore fishermen face. I hate how hard it is to access many areas. I just find it ironic that the organization is called Plymouth beach for all when it is resident-only for orv permits. We all know that without vehicle access, in particular parking, the beach can be called "public" but that's really pretty disingenuous is only residents are allowed. Just a gripe I have with MA beaches in general. It's only a step away from what these whack jobs want to do, if you think about it. It's all about limiting access.
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In this case the "FOR ALL" means Shorebirds, Wildlife, Reasearch Workers, Dogs and humans living (or playing) in coexistance. Plymouth beach could not handle the influx of vehicles should it be open to the public. Letting residents only drive the beach is no different than letting "fishermen only" drive the beach and that is what many of them are, especially at night.

[Plum Crazy]

The decision came down in favor of Plymouth Beach. PLYMOUTH WON AGAIN. It is not over but this is good news. I will post more when I see something in writing.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Plum Crazy

The decision came down in favor of Plymouth Beach. PLYMOUTH WON AGAIN. It is not over but this is good news. I will post more when I see something in writing.

I've been waiting to hear, rumor mill was something might break by end of last week. Thanks for the update - keep it coming.

[Tagger]

yup ..


PLYMOUTH — A long-awaited ruling by an administrative judge has upheld the management plan that allows off-road vehicles on Plymouth Long Beach.

Magistrate David Hoover’s recommended decision, released Tuesday, finds no merit in Goldenrod Foundation’s claims that the use of off-road vehicles on the beach constitutes a “take” of endangered species.

The ruling would maintain the town’s policy of allowing off-road vehicles onto the outer portion of the three-mile beach after protected piping plovers have fledged in early summer.

Goldenrod Foundation challenged the plan, claiming it did not adequately protect the plovers or roseate terns, another protected species.

Hoover heard testimony on Goldenrod’s challenge to the beach management plan last summer. His ruling found the challenge unsupported by meaningful or competent evidence.

The ruling also questions the motives of Goldenrod founder Kate Muther, who owns a private home on the beach and spends part of her summers there.

See the Midweek edition of the Old Colony Memorial for the complete story

[Plum Crazy]

Thanks Tagger!
Kudos to the Town of Plymouth and the people of Plymouth Beach for All Coalition for sticking to their guns and getting the true facts out in the open. Enjoy your beach!

Now I want to know what will become of this-"The ruling also questions the motives of Goldenrod founder Kate Muther, who owns a private home on the beach and spends part of her summers there."
Is she going to be allowed to continue this foolish witch hunt she is on?
All of this is a waste of time and money.

[massgc]

From Wicked Local 3 Hours ago. Looks like a small problem at Goldenrod


The whole thing was a scam' Hecker said as he left the Goldenrod Cottage for the last time. 'We all knew there was no meaningful evidence.'

'Ya, but we expected a little bit of COMPETENT evidence!! That's why we fired your A$$!' Muther could be heard yelling from the window.

'I did all I could for those mean, ignorant, selfish snakes.' Hecker mumbled under his breath.

'I can hear you. And I must say, I agree with everything except where you said you did all you could. Now leave! Go do nothing for somebody else!'

And that's how it ended.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by massgc

From Wicked Local 3 Hours ago. Looks like a small problem at Goldenrod

Link PLEEEEZE

[JohnR]

OK - found the link: Judge upholds Plymouth Beach Management Plan - Plymouth, MA - Wicked Local Plymouth

Will wait to find out if this is legit

[Plum Crazy]

That is a quote in the comments section. WOW!!!! Oh man I gotta know if this is true!

[tattoobob]

This is great news, now the town of Plymouth should sue them to get all there wasted money back

[JohnnyD]

This is a concern for me. (My emphasis added)

“Twenty years of appeals and modifications have produced the most stringent beach plan in the state, the template. That’s the success,” McInerney said.

I hope they don't use the Plymouth plan as a template in other areas.

[tattoobob]

I'm not sure how strict Plymouth beach is but I drive Plum Island every fall and have heard that all the other beaches watch what gets done there (Plum Island) then set there rules accordingly.

As much as I love Plum Island after last fall I may never go back

[Plum Crazy]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

This is a concern for me. (My emphasis added)


I hope they don't use the Plymouth plan as a template in other areas.

Most beach plans are like Plymouth's already with the exception of a total dog ban. (and they are working on changing that now)

All is silent on the Golden Fraud FB page. Most of us have been banned from posting there. I would love to see the link put up there for that article. Their "FANS" need to know the truth about them.

[Plum Crazy]

Goldenfraud filed another appeal.
Goldenrod filed an appeal of the Final Decision in Suffolk Superior Court on February 17, 2011.

[tysdad115]

My post on their FB page lasted all of 4 minutes before they deleted it! Frauds.

Andy Stevenson
More Plymouth sightings just in time for your appeal to the courts to ban beach access for your elitiest crowd I see. What a bunch of uptight,pretentios people you all are. Trying to ban access so people dont disrupt your vacation home on Long Beach.

[FishermanTim]

Maybe a visit from the "Yak Rats" could be in order?
Have a beach meeting, and claim that the Yak Rats are a non-profit organization, then they can file a complaint against Goldenfraud if they so much as fart in the yakkers direction.
Turn their idiocy against them and see how they like being on the receiving end of the stick.

If worse ever came to worse, maybe they could surround their luxury home.....I mean "research facility" with a fence preventing them for accessing it for as long as WE want, and claim its "for the birds" (literally)!!!

[Plum Crazy]

Hey ya know I am a birdwatcher too. I watch for birds dive bombing bait all the time. I even have some cool binoculars. If I bring a clipboard will they allow me to bask in the sun all day in the name of research?