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12-27-2011, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
Isn't that basically what O'bama has now done with this $40 payroll tax reduction.... He seems like he's positioning himself now to win..  |
You better just that $40 in to Romney or Newt then. Since you don't want it.
This is the Right's kind of deal. Tax break for those who are working. If O'bama had done anything different, Scott, you would have been all over him for obstructing this.
He could start #^&#^&#^&#^&ting gold and giving it to the treasury dept to counteract spending and you'd find fault with his brand of TP... |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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12-28-2011, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
He could start #^&#^&#^&#^&ting gold and giving it to the treasury dept to counteract spending ...
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yeah..that's realistic.... 
Obama to ask for debt limit hike: Treasury official
WASHINGTON | Tue Dec 27, 2011
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House plans to ask Congress by the end of the week for an increase in the government's debt ceiling to allow the United States to pay its bills on time, according to a senior Treasury Department official on Tuesday.
President Barack Obama is expected to ask for authority to increase the borrowing limit by $1.2 trillion, part of the spending authority that was negotiated between Congress and the White House this summer.
The debt limit currently stands at $15.194 trillion and would increase to $16.394 trillion with the request.
(Reporting By Margaret Chadbourn; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama)
Last edited by scottw; 12-28-2011 at 10:06 AM..
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12-27-2011, 04:05 PM
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your right. he should be impeached for the bull#^&#^&#^&#^& he's pulled so far.
Don't matter how much Lysol you use when you got a rotten poo it still stinks.
Only problem is nobody will stand up and say it or do anything about it |
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12-27-2011, 04:07 PM
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You honestly think this country is better off today with him than it was without him?
Every word out of his mouth is a LIE. Done to suit his preferences.
And his preference is to party every day, take 7 vacations a month, 15 rounds of golf all while this country goes into the #^&#^&#^&#^&ter.
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12-27-2011, 05:15 PM
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he is a train wreck that already happened
it makes no difference what his party affiliation is...
or that he's Black or ANYTHING else....
he's terrible! no matter "how" you look at it....
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12-28-2011, 02:34 PM
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Saw a nicely simplified view of the US "Budget" (We should be using that term very loosely):
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12-29-2011, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Saw a nicely simplified view of the US "Budget" (We should be using that term very loosely):
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Great chart JD, one Big G wouldn't want you to see.
Waay to simple, they don't want you to see something that simple
just want to snow you with complicated BS. |
" Choose Life "
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12-29-2011, 09:55 AM
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Great chart JD, one Big G wouldn't want you to see.
Waay to simple, they don't want you to see something that simple
just want to snow you with complicated BS.
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The whole budget situation becomes mythical to the average person when trillions, millions, billions are thrown around. The typical American doesn't comprehend how much money that actually is.
I'm glad I found that image. I appreciate the way it related our national debt to credit card debt. With it is put simply like that, we should now be asking the people of this nation: "How stable financially is a family that has credit card debt equal to 7 times their income?" When put into simple, relative terms like that, it is easy to comprehend how dire our national debt situation is... and why a surplus budget is required, along with *every* American having to make sacrifices. |
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12-29-2011, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
The whole budget situation becomes mythical to the average person when trillions, millions, billions are thrown around. The typical American doesn't comprehend how much money that actually is.
I'm glad I found that image. I appreciate the way it related our national debt to credit card debt. With it is put simply like that, we should now be asking the people of this nation: "How stable financially is a family that has credit card debt equal to 7 times their income?" When put into simple, relative terms like that, it is easy to comprehend how dire our national debt situation is... and why a surplus budget is required, along with *every* American having to make sacrifices.
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There would also have to be a guarantee that the surplus would go to paying down the debt. It has been a long, long time since the debt has been reduced, even in times of budget "surplus." Congress has this inevitable tic that requires all money to be spent so that whatever does go toward debt payment is never enough to reduce it and it constantly grows. If the annual budgets were honest, they would include the debt as part of the budget just as your chart does. But, then, the pols could not maintain power by "giving" us stuff, and the people could instantly see, by looking at a real, total budget, rather than the so-called "annual" budget, that they were not being given anything. Rather that they were being forced to pay very dearly for the trinkets. And, if we were taught throughout the 12 year captivity in public schools that the Federal Gvt. is not supposed to have the power to spend our money on things not enumerated in the Constitution, and that we, in our various States and localities, have the power to spend or not spend within those unenumerated powers, we would have more control and responsibility toward keeping "budgets" within reason and ability to pay.
Of course, the Constitution is a dead letter that no-one follows anymore. So then, the problem becomes "revenue" and "spending." What's the best way to get budget surplus revenue and how to control congressional spending. Taxing is problematic. At what point does it hamper growth in the "economy"? Is economic growth the best way to garner Federal revenue? As for spending--good luch with that. |
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01-01-2012, 12:55 PM
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Another qoute on the debt to make things simple for us simple folk,
"We've saved the American Taxpayer about 17 Hours
of spending. That's it."
-Reid Ribble, R. Wisc.
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" Choose Life "
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01-02-2012, 01:57 PM
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"...supporting more than 50,000 U.S. jobs at a time of high unemployment...
The program involves roughly 600 suppliers in 44 of the 50 U.S. states and give the economy a $3.5 billion annual boost...
'This will support jobs not only in the aerospace sector but also in our manufacturing base and support chain, which are all crucial for sustaining our national defense,' he said."
After reading the article, I don't know what to say Scott other than, if you can't support this, there is absolutely nothing related to the Obama admin. that you would support.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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01-02-2012, 05:00 PM
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Didn't say I didn't support it
I do....cept he's going to cash in for his campaign. He's going to use it for all it's worth. I bet they been working on that since before Barry...and that this is another of his "free" grabs I'm the king of hope and change.
And none of this gets going for another 2 years......so it's FLUFF in the jar right now.
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01-02-2012, 05:14 PM
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Didn't say I didn't support it
I do....cept he's going to cash in for his campaign. He's going to use it for all it's worth. I bet they been working on that since before Barry...and that this is another of his "free" grabs I'm the king of hope and change.
And none of this gets going for another 2 years......so it's FLUFF in the jar right now.
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I doubt it will factor in all that much.
But the fact it's approved will keep a lot of defense industry employees employed. The entire aero defense supply chain is scrambling to rework their cost structures right now. Contract like these have a tremendous trickle down effect.
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01-03-2012, 10:49 AM
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Didn't say I didn't support it
I bet they been working on that since before Barry...and that this is another of his "free" grabs I'm the king of hope and change.
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No credit for what happens while he is in office and most of the blame for stuff that started before he was elected 
I am happy to hear that you are ok with the sales, though, or I was gonna be very concerned. |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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01-03-2012, 11:04 AM
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He's taken enough credit for things others have done
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