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01-19-2012, 01:13 PM
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Old Guy
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To me what is an issue is the walled garden Apple has made the product. Why can't you get,third party hardware to extend it? or for that mattr why cant i print on my windows network? It that area android will have IOS beat eventually, we'll be seeing a lot more android this year many forms.
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01-19-2012, 02:02 PM
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Super Moderator
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Location: Georgetown MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by striperman36
To me what is an issue is the walled garden Apple has made the product.
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Thats the same mentality that screwed them over in the PC market.
When Apple II hit the streets about the same time as the IBM PC...it was a far superior product....even when you had the Mac II it was still far superior.
But they decided not to share their technology where IBM did......and...well the rest is history. The Market was flooded with IBM Clones. By the time they decided to release it, it was to late.
I remember those 1st Apple clones....what an absolute POS they were |
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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01-19-2012, 03:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Originally Posted by spence
Please explain.
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Spence, do you really think your phone is making you cool?How old are you?Who is impressing people with phones?I feel bad pointing it out but ....please don't respond. |
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01-19-2012, 03:29 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Newport, RI
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A droid just doesnt complete the outfit like an Iphone does.
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01-19-2012, 03:55 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Spence is a sales guy, he needs the cool
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01-19-2012, 04:20 PM
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#36
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: RockVegas
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The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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01-19-2012, 05:30 PM
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Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Spence, do you really think your phone is making you cool?How old are you?Who is impressing people with phones?I feel bad pointing it out but ....please don't respond.
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I don't have an iPhone, I have a Blackberry.
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01-19-2012, 06:02 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Originally Posted by spence
Like I said, they Apple is focused on the entire user experience.
What you see as being "pigeon-holed" they see as industry transformation. It's funny, people complain about how constraining Apple products are and they end up using them anyway 
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Weird, I thought you said (emphasis mine):
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The effort that goes into industrial design is incredible. It's why that Apple product looks better sitting on the table and feels better in your hands...it's part art part machine.
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At least with all "the effort that goes into industrial design," the iPhone 4 feels good in my hand before the faulty antennas drop my calls. Definitely some impressive industrial design there.
The same thing is happening to Apple right now with the Android platform that happened to them 20 years ago with Windows. The way Apple stifles a user's options will cause them to fall back, once again, into obscurity. Their stranglehold on how users are able to utilize products like the iPhone and iPad will result in people moving towards a more open platform that provides more flexibility.
Android already holds more smart phone market-share than the iPhone and that's with the somewhat recent release of the 4S. Unless Apple hurries up with a 4G compatible version, the disparity will only grow. |
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01-19-2012, 07:12 PM
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Secretsquirrel
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Shore , MA
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
will cause them to fall back, once again, into obscurity.
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I like some Apple products and don't like others.
But , I hope you don't actually believe that.  |
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01-20-2012, 05:53 AM
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*Bossman Speed test
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i5 2500K, 16GB ram, 1.5GB Radeon and I haven't even O'Clocked...
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01-20-2012, 04:11 PM
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It all began with an iPhone...
March was when my son celebrated his 15th birthday,
and I got him an iPhone.
He just loved it. Who wouldn't?
I celebrated my birthday in June,
and my wife made me very happy when she bought me an iPad.
My daughter's birthday was in August so I got her an iPod Touch.
My wife celebrated her birthday in September so I got her an iRon.
It was around then that the fight started......
What my wife failed to recognize is that the iRon can be integrated
into the home network with the iWash, iCook and iClean.
This inevitably activates the iNag reminder service.
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The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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01-20-2012, 04:43 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Originally Posted by striperman36
To me what is an issue is the walled garden Apple has made the product. Why can't you get,third party hardware to extend it? or for that mattr why cant i print on my windows network? It that area android will have IOS beat eventually, we'll be seeing a lot more android this year many forms.
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Well, being walled gives them more control over how people use the platform. That's one of the problems with Windows, you can do just about anything so people 'eff it all up.
As for printing, I assume you mean from the iPad or iPod? Printing from a Macbook to a PC based printer works just fine.
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01-20-2012, 04:52 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Yes the friggin IPAD!!! I want my command line too.
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01-20-2012, 05:33 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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who ya gonna ping
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01-20-2012, 05:38 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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mount -t cifs 192.168.1.102/fishporn fishporn -u user=me,password=bigfish
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01-24-2012, 11:56 AM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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here is the result
I went to the apple store in the snow on Saturday. Took close to an hour but I guess thats not apples fault.
Walked in an went up to the first associate, nice kid. Told him I need to return the interface and the problem with the ipad. He said he will take a look and said he will re-boot the ipad and if its a software issue, it should fix it. Takes 2 minutes, and now it works fine. I had to ask how I have their best selling product and in order to fix a major issue, I have to crash it to get it to work. He said thats just the way it is and he showed my how to do it. Oh well, seems lame to me but it works now.
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01-24-2012, 12:27 PM
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Registered User
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Location: RI
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You mean you didn't reboot the iPad before you drove into the store?
-spence
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01-24-2012, 01:03 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Do it on Microsoft all the time. You never turn it off?
Apps on the iPad crash all the time, droid also. I reboot my devices quite a bit
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01-24-2012, 01:19 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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Originally Posted by spence
You mean you didn't reboot the iPad before you drove into the store?
-spence
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Hmm re-boot? Silly me.
I first checked the instructions, oops they're are none!
Then I went to apple support online, oops it didnt tell me how to do that.
Then I googled my issue, many had same issue with no resolution
Then I spent an hour on Apple support, they never suggested doing that and went dwon 5 different paths to resolve the issue. The last path led me to the Apple store.
It must be one of those ease of use things that I should have figured out on my own? I guess everyone knows you hold down the power button and the menu key(whatever its called) and it will crash the ipad?
Im just not high tech.  |
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01-24-2012, 01:23 PM
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Registered User
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A lot of these mobile devices like a reboot now and then. They don't always do a good job of shutting everything off.
I thought all you had to do to reboot the iPad was hold to power switch?
-spence
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01-24-2012, 01:29 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
A lot of these mobile devices like a reboot now and then. They don't always do a good job of shutting everything off.
I thought all you had to do to reboot the iPad was hold to power switch?
-spence
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that turns it off.
He held the power switch and the button on the front for about 10 seconds. The screen goes blank and you get the apple logo. |
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01-24-2012, 01:46 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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See, even when you drink the Kool-aid they don't tell you the hidden secrets.
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