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02-16-2001, 05:18 PM
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#31
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John
everyone should be involved ( John R and #^^^^^^& ) . Im not much for tournaments as it brings out bad things in some people . Although I wouldnt mind fishing with you guys where ever it may be ( RI or the cape ). Just let me know the date and Ill try and make it . I know where RI is , isnt that the CT annex . hahahaha
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02-16-2001, 06:01 PM
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#32
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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Thank you Saltheart, I really do appreciate that.
OK, Every regular is in, regardless of affiliation ;D ... And I don't think the field would be watered down if I didn't play, #^^^^^^& maybe  but we are both in (although I'm unsure if he'd want to go as he usually fishes alone or with one other). Now in the essence of keeping things at least fair and equitable, we should make this a shore thing for the get together parts and shore/privately owned boat for the yearlong. GotStripers, I'm sure I can provide a suitable surf stick for you and reels too if necessary (although I think you're OK there). For the year long portion of the tournament, weigh in slips will be accepted but catch and release fish with a signed member affidavit will be accepted. So next summer when FW&Baitcaster are gunnel to gunnel with G'Stripers they can cast the slip into each other's boat :P . Minimum length and minimum weight for entry in either facet of the tournament will be 40 inches and 20 pounds minimum. As each leg continues and the tournament progresses, current leaders will be posted frequently as this will allow questionable fish not to be entered. I also very much like GS's "Blind Draw" for the get together tourneys with at least one knowledgeable local mixed in with one or two others. Once this is set, small groups can work with other groups or as a single group. Making each leg is to your advantage but not required.
I would have to agree with the other point mentioned above that a couple good drifts off Cuttyhunk with a knowledgable charter would be almost overwhelming odds for the rest of us, so that would be applicable only in the year long tourney if someone happened to take a charter with other members and scored... Whether that is allowable is really up to you all.
No distinction between artificials, bait (dead or alive) or Hybrids (bringin' some eelskin plugs myself :P )...
I really think that this tornament will be alot of fun and the buddy system will work...
And Chris L you are so completely wrong. Lil Rhody is a colony of Massachusetts and Connecticut is where Nu Yawkas go to be rural  ...
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02-17-2001, 10:05 AM
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#33
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Saltheart- my comments were not meant to exclude anyone as much as making the playing field level. Most tournaments have boat and shore divisions.....I realized I used the "no bait" phrase...that's just my subconscious aversion to that method of fishing coming to the fore <g>. No harm meant to those who chunk et al... this method often produces bigger fish. It is also unusual for a shore based catch to be the largest fish in any tournament. Not impossible, but very unlikely. Best bassing grounds are generally accessible by boat. If you really want to stack the odds, swim eels from a boat. I am aware of the exceptions, but there ain't enough of 'em.
Sounds like there maybe enough interest and donations to have divisions reflecting how members prefer to fish. This would truly make it inclusive.
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02-17-2001, 08:09 PM
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#34
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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02-17-2001, 08:58 PM
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#35
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Hey Darth Lizard, did you forget what to say after "f" or are you REALLY suffering cabin fever?? As a special medicinal service for you, come down at the end of March or early April so we can get you into some school bass. You really must be making your wife nervous with that cabin fever...
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02-18-2001, 02:18 AM
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#36
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Slow Droppin' Skins
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Walpole
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Fisherwoman, Just to clarify..... I think that guides should participate just as much as any other yahoo like me. What I meant by "no guides" was more to the extent that heading down to Nauset and hiring the Striperman to sling eels on the beach for a week to win this tournament might be a little weighted. I defiantely did not mean to imply that i wanted to exclude guides from fishing it.... Hell from what Salty is brewing up I'd sure like to have a shot at a sweet stick like that, wouldn't you? ANyways, I don't think I've ever met and a little SB.com tourney would be a great spot...Cheers.
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02-18-2001, 08:50 AM
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#37
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so John they can move you to RI but they forgot to remove your mass blood . new yawkers nah we arnt from there are we ? I always thought CT came from the ocean floor after a big storm in europe and the waters shifted and up popped a populated state of ct . I thought ct was the long lost atlantis . I guess its time to move to vermont . lol
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02-18-2001, 10:00 AM
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#38
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No, definitely NOT Atlantis. Although Atlantis may have had Casinos at one time, they NEVER would have banned radr detectors... Granted, your state recovered from that error but...
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02-18-2001, 11:06 AM
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#39
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East Tide,
No offence (sp?) taken at all. I understand that some people might not want to participate if that was the case. As for us being guides, we strickly throw artificial, no bait and no eels for our guide service. But we do know some great locations to fish, I certainly don't need any more advantage than the next guy.
We participate in alot of tournaments throughout the year, and as far as I am concerned it is any one's game. You never know what may hit your line. We don't have the opportunity to go looking for big fish very often from shore. Time just does not permit. We do look for some when we are out on the boat, but I am just as happy having some schoolies pulling the other way and giving me a very active time on the water.
So if anyone thinks we may be big competition for then, don't hold your breath. I don't go looking for big fish just to win a tournament very often, and when I do, it doesn't always work the way you want it to. But if someone would prefer we do not participate in this tounament, its OK, its not a big deal. We have more rods and reels than a tackle shop and we would love to see someone win, that can really use the gear. I would rather get together with folks on this board and meet them to put a face to a name, and we wish you all well with this tournament, I think JohnR came up with a great idea, and I wish him well with it. Tight Lines everbody!!!! The fishies are coming soon.
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02-18-2001, 11:45 AM
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#40
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john and a big BUT it is this state needs alot of work . atlantis would have gotten rid of the state tax after they allowed casinos and would allow fishing access , now there is a joke this state STINKS when it comes to access to the shore line . I live in a shore bound town and to get permits to park in shore towns is ridiculous at best . That is why I usually fish RI and the cape more than here . Although its getting harder even in those places to access without permits . If only you could buy one permit for parking for fishing at night in the state parks at least . I believe RI does this ? Isnt there a $50 permit for nonresidents to park at night to fish like in the breachways and state parks ? I usually just take my chances with parking and hope I dont get towed .
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02-18-2001, 08:30 PM
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#41
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Chris,
I have heard much about the poor shore access there. Fortunately Rhody and Mass are not as bad. I haven't fished there much from shore, just some private docks in Stratford and BP (with caution :P )
As far as the permit goes, I think there is one for the beach after September and I know the lady at Charlestown breachway will usually let you by without paying if you say you're fishing. Didn't seem to make a difference between RI or Mass tags...
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02-19-2001, 03:13 PM
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#42
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yes your right about charlestown . Ive never had a hassle there in the later season . they wave me through I imagine like you said cause I was fishing . I hope to get out to watch hill this year now that I know a of a place to park . Im in need of spring or at least a show this winter is beating me up pretty bad this year . Ill be fishing soon enough i guess .
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02-19-2001, 05:35 PM
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#43
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Keep The Change
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This is exciting!!!!!!
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02-20-2001, 09:38 AM
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#44
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You betcha Fishpart...
I'm going to start putting a page together later this week for the Striped-Bass.Com Tourneys with the rules and guidelines and all that mumbo-jumbo... But any more questions? And yes, the Ditch is in bounds  (someone had asked)...
Now, we'll need to get some prospective dates goin here for the "meets"
We're going to want an early season May/June/July and a later season Aug/Sept/Oct... Any recommendations??
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02-20-2001, 10:27 AM
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#45
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NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
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fisherwomen & baitcaster
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02-20-2001, 10:41 AM
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#46
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Keep The Change
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I like Saltheart's idea of fishing with another board member. While it may be difficult to get schedules together it is still a good idea. For me fishing is more than just getting the biggest fish. It is a change from the daily routine and also a chance to meet up with some other interesting people I might not see in a normal day.
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02-20-2001, 12:27 PM
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#47
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Location: Middleboro MA
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I recommend late Sept. on Block Island- afternoon ferry over on Sat. back on mid-morning ferry.
or how about we all list our top 5 picks for location and picks for the time(day) give it a week or 2 then tally the votes and narrow it down that way.
How many striperfests will there be? If we do 1 in May another in june or july then one in sept and one in oct. that might work.
If you guys want maybe I could make a fancy trophy for the tourney.
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02-20-2001, 12:51 PM
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#48
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Block Island or any of the Mass Islands would be tough and costly for this type of Tournament. Not to mention that we would surely get noticed with a caravan of vehicles...
I like breaking them up:
May - Rhody
June - Mass
Late Aug/ early Sept - Mass
Sept/Oct - Rhody
We would need to schedule when other tornaments are not happening like Tri-State, MV Derby and soforth....
Also, do we want to pick locations or areas?? A couple Mass spots I like wouldn't support more than 3 or 4 people at a time... If in Mass, do we want some to go to the Ditch, some to Chatham, or some to Scituate/Plymouth... ??
Good idea Bruce, lets talk about that...
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02-20-2001, 01:12 PM
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#49
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John splitting up with a few anglers sounds like a great idea. It would cut down on some travel time and we could agree on some spots before hand. The ditch is one place that can support alot of anglers and a central meeting place like the Sagamore parking lot under the bridge is a good spot to meet. We could meet here and fish the ditch or some of the beachs close by.
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02-20-2001, 02:02 PM
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#50
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Slow Droppin' Skins
Join Date: Jan 2001
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I think fishing with someone else should be optional. I feel that a week or month long tourney with no barrier restrictions is a good idea. I also feel that a slip from a registered scale is the only way to conduct a real tourney, look at the Marthas Vineyard Tourney. If you don't want to weigh a bass than don't enter. Do you think that those die hards out on the island are going to slip a 40 back in the surf!!! Hell no. Anyways, I know that not everyone agrees but personal discretion (like do I keep this 34" fish in a week long tourney, no.) can be used. You can almost eliminate any fish under 40". Anyways. I rather fish alone 99% of the time and am not sweating weighing a fish that would be a contender. Just my .02$. If I have to fish with someone I choose #^^^^^^&, no exceptions 
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02-21-2001, 09:41 AM
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#51
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Cowboy, that's where you can use the weigh-in slip for the year long. If you are going to join in one of the meets, you will be paired up with someone but it probably won't be #^^^^^^&... besides, I don't think he has left Rhode Island in 2 or 3 years for fishing, maybe even longer...
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