Fauci estimated US death toll now he is a anti Trumper

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

ffs, ask liberal CT if the cruise ship can come here, they’ll be told no.

liberals want more government, conservatives want more
personal liberty. you don’t have the faintest clue what you’re talking about.
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Guess those americans on that ship cant experience those conservatives personal liberty's.. in a conservative run state

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Guess those americans on that ship cant experience those conservatives personal liberty's.. in a conservative run state

No one ever said (except you, you were the first person stupid enough to imply it) that conservatives think we should all be able to do whatever we want.

In general, conservatives advocate for less government control, and more individual liberty. In general, liberals want larger government intrusion.

I've never heard anyone deny that before. Congratulations, you are a pioneer in the field of ignorance. You're the Captain Kirk of being wrong.

I'll ask again since you started this post, WHO is accusing Fauci of being an anti-Trumper? Who??

[Pete F.]

Perhaps some should pay attention to what Trumplican/nationalists want.

Small government and the american founder's liberal ideal is so yesterday in the minds of Trump* supporters.

They cannot abide individual Americans making social and economic choices they do not like. For consumers, the question might be whether to buy foreign or domestic. For a business owner, it might be where to open a factory. For a parent, it might be whether or not to attend drag queen story hour at the local library. Regardless, the new nationalists have decided not only that there is a right answer from a moral perspective but that government should force you to choose correctly.

The Manhattan Institute's Oren Cass laid out a plan involving research and development subsidies, infrastructure investments, preferential tax rates for favored firms, punitive taxes on companies that move jobs overseas, "trade enforcement" to make other countries play according to our rules, and more. "We should have a National Institutes of Manufacturing just as we have a National Institutes of Health," he said.

Yoram Hazony said "Today we declare independence, from neoliberalism, from libertarianism, from what they call classical liberalism. From the set of ideas that sees the atomic individual, the free and equal individual, as the only thing that matters in politics."

Here is what happened today in Hungary, the most nationalist country in the EU.

Hungarian Parliament passes bill that gives PM Orbán unlimited power & proclaims:

- State of emergency w/o time limit
- Rule by decree
- Parliament suspended
- No elections
- Spreading fake news + rumors: up to 5 yrs in prison
- Leaving quarantine: up to 8 yrs in prison

What do you think Trump* who yesterday said "When they disrespect me, they're disrespecting our government," about the heads of the States feels would be the "right thing" for us. Never mind that he has claimed to have the right to restrict movement of american citizens, perhaps because he has no clue about the Constitution and how this government works.

In his mind it is; “L'état, c'est moi.”

To which I say, if you attempt that perhaps it is time we should bring back the guillotine.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Guess those americans on that ship cant experience those conservatives personal liberty's.. in a conservative run state

Explain the Raimondo run state pulling over out of staters Wayne. Be fair
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Explain the Raimondo run state pulling over out of staters Wayne. Be fair
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And what party is she in? Can you remind us?

WDMSO, please comment on that?

It's only bad when a Republican does it.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

In his mind it is; “L'état, c'est moi.”

To which I say, if you attempt that perhaps it is time we should bring back the guillotine.

somebody get pete his medication

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

somebody get pete his medication

Now you've done it. If he drinks fish tank cleaner now, it's your fault.

[scottw]

HELLO


this is precious......

MARCH 30, 2020 3:00 PM

The Arizona woman who said that she and her 68-year-old husband ingested a substance used to clean fish tanks after hearing President Donald Trump tout chloroquine as a cure for the coronavirus has given thousands of dollars to Democratic groups and candidates over the last two years.

The woman's most recent donations, in late February, were to a Democratic PAC, the 314 Action Fund, that bills itself as the "pro-science resistance" and has vocally criticized the Trump administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic and held up her case to slam the White House.

Federal Election Commission records show that Wanda has donated thousands of dollars to Democratic electoral groups and candidates over the past two years, including Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and EMILY's List, a group that aims to elect pro-choice female candidates.

Wanda told the Free Beacon that she and her husband were both Democrats, not Trump supporters.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Guess those americans on that ship cant experience those conservatives personal liberty's.. in a conservative run state

The mayor of Ft Lauterdale, a democrat named Dean Trantalis, also said that ship had no business docking there.

Go ahead. Tell us what that says about all democrats. After all, you said that because the governor was a republican, his refusal to let the ship dock there said something derogatory about all republicans. So unless you're a world class hypocrite, this mayors comment must also say something derogatory about all democrats. Right, Wayne?

[Pete F.]

If you think that woman is foolish, just think how stupid you have to be to say it’s not a problem when all the professionals who work for the American people along with you are saying “We have a problem” and you slough it off.

Coronavirus in the U.S.

From 1 to 1,500 fatalities: 27 days

From 1,500 to 3,000 fatalities: 3 days

“I take no responsibility at all”
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[Sea Dangles]

It’s like acting him to take responsibility for your chronic foolishness Bitchslappedboy. Some really terrible acts can’t be stopped regardless of reason.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

It’s like acting him to take responsibility for your chronic foolishness Bitchslappedboy. Some really terrible acts can’t be stopped regardless of reason.
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Another cardbordeaux victim, or Judge Jeannine's alter ego?

I'm guessing the latter

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

It’s like acting him to take responsibility for your chronic foolishness Bitchslappedboy. Some really terrible acts can’t be stopped regardless of reason.
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You mean like the posts you make?
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[detbuch]

A very interesting as well as thorough interview--and a bit of an antidote to Pete F:

[Pete F.]

Those anthrax letter mailings were never solved.
Perps still walking around somewheres.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Nebe

You mean like the posts you make?
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Spitting 🔥
Looks like you are woke now.👍🏿
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No one ever said (except you, you were the first person stupid enough to imply it) that conservatives think we should all be able to do whatever we want.

In general, conservatives advocate for less government control, and more individual liberty. In general, liberals want larger government intrusion.

I've never heard anyone deny that before. Congratulations, you are a pioneer in the field of ignorance. You're the Captain Kirk of being wrong.

I'll ask again since you started this post, WHO is accusing Fauci of being an anti-Trumper? Who??

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-anthony-...ttacks-1494881

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Explain the Raimondo run state pulling over out of staters Wayne. Be fair
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On Friday, Raimondo issued an executive order instructing state authorities to stop drivers with New York plates and order them to self-quarantine for 14 days, and she said that state and local authorities would also identify where New York transplants had already relocated and go door-to-door informing them of the quarantine requirement.


They are not being denied entrance

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

On Friday, Raimondo issued an executive order instructing state authorities to stop drivers with New York plates and order them to self-quarantine for 14 days, and she said that state and local authorities would also identify where New York transplants had already relocated and go door-to-door informing them of the quarantine requirement.


They are not being denied entrance

But stopping cars with NY plates is now considered a good deed by alleged civil liberties champions.

No hypocrisy there🤡
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The mayor of Ft Lauterdale, a democrat named Dean Trantalis, also said that ship had no business docking there.

Go ahead. Tell us what that says about all democrats. After all, you said that because the governor was a republican, his refusal to let the ship dock there said something derogatory about all republicans. So unless you're a world class hypocrite, this mayors comment must also say something derogatory about all democrats. Right, Wayne?

Both are wrong for not allowing Americans to get off and seek Treatment
See I disagreed with a Democrat

Ps you brought in personal liberties into the Thread I just pointed out they were denied that .... you made the jump to all Republicans not I

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

But stopping cars with NY plates is now considered a good deed by alleged civil liberties champions.

No hypocrisy there🤡
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Not sure how not allowing Americans to get off a cruise shipe and seek Treatment is the same as insuring people coming from a hot spot self quarantined for 14 days. Is some how a against their civil liberties ? , they had the liberty to get to RI and have the liberty to return to New York if they choose not self quarantine for 14 days

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Not sure how not allowing Americans to get off a cruise shipe and seek Treatment is the same as insuring people coming from a hot spot self quarantined for 14 days. Is some how a against their civil liberties ? , they had the liberty to get to RI and have the liberty to return to New York if they choose not self quarantine for 14 days

You are correct. They are not the same. Every American should be self quarantine unless they are essential, not just the ones with a certain license plate.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-anthony-...ttacks-1494881

OK, I see. So you are responding to a small number of lunatic fringe in the blogosphere. DO you hold all liberals responsible for the words of your fringe? Does Antifa speak for you? Anyone who would criticize Fauci for him doing his job, is a maniac. Fair enough? NO ONE is listening to those people.

Did anyone who has any meaningful influence, attack the doctor?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

OK, I see. So you are responding to a small number of lunatic fringe in the blogosphere. DO you hold all liberals responsible for the words of your fringe? Does Antifa speak for you? Anyone who would criticize Fauci for him doing his job, is a maniac. Fair enough? NO ONE is listening to those people.

Did anyone who has any meaningful influence, attack the doctor?

Didn't you constantly try to link Antifa and BLM to the Dems?

Hypocrisy anyone?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Didn't you constantly try to link Antifa and BLM to the Dems?

Hypocrisy anyone?

What I said, is that it's very rare for democrats to denounce what those groups do. I do not think all democrats endorse the actions of these two groups, but most democrats refuse to condemn them. They stay silent. But they go berserk when conservative nuts bomb abortion clinics.

Sorry if that was too fast for you.

"Hypocrisy anyone?"

You, yes, constantly. Me? Sometimes I guess, but not constantly.

[PaulS]

I guess you missed this when you were watching Maddow looking to find something to complain about.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi condemned the “violent actions of people calling themselves antifa” after violence led to arrests at Bay Area protests, in the strongest criticism of left-wing protesters that any Democratic leader has made.

“Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts,” Pelosi said in a statement released late Tuesday. “The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.”

Tell me about my hypocrisy. I've pointed out a bunch of yours.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I guess you missed this when you were watching Maddow looking to find something to complain about.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi condemned the “violent actions of people calling themselves antifa” after violence led to arrests at Bay Area protests, in the strongest criticism of left-wing protesters that any Democratic leader has made.

“Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts,” Pelosi said in a statement released late Tuesday. “The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.”

Tell me about my hypocrisy. I've pointed out a bunch of yours.

And if I had said "no democrat has ever condemned ANTIFA or BLM", you'd have refuted my point. I happily and immediately concede that some do. But many don't. Many go further and defend them.

"I've pointed out a bunch of yours'

No, you try to paint me as a hypocrite every time I criticize a liberal or praise a conservative. It's only hypocritical, if I react differently to the same thing being done 0on both sides. For example, you criticizing me (fairly) for using ugly language, but saying explicitly you don't care when Pete does it. That is irrefutable hypocrisy.

[Pete F.]

Read this book, it might help you figure hypocrisy out.

https://www.amazon.com/Mistakes-Were.../dp/1491514132

Or you could just keep demanding the answers you think are correct

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No, you try to paint me as a hypocrite every time I criticize a liberal or praise a conservative. It's only hypocritical, if I react differently to the same thing being done 0on both sides. For example, you criticizing me (fairly) for using ugly language, but saying explicitly you don't care when Pete does it. That is irrefutable hypocrisy.

Was that my full statement or are you lying?

Bc what I said was I don't read all (and I probably said most) of his statements. In fact, I wasn't even aware of the statement until I said something SeaDangles (something that keeps getting lower and lower with him) said was a new low for this forum and TDF pointed out Pete's statement.

Do you know what the definition of being a hypocrite is? BC it certainly is not calling you out for hypocrisy while not pointing out every other people's statements for doing the same.

Do you think you are petty? Wasn't bringing Maddow's statement up being petty? Didn't someone point out that someone in the navy didn't even think they would get the ship there quickly. Or starting a thread about the Dems. delaying the stimulus when both sides do it and it was a Rep. who ended up delaying the vote and making them all come back. McConnell got $ put in the bill specifically for the L'oreal plant in Kentucky showing both sides put things in that benefited their interests.

[scottw]

maddow is doing an excellent job making trump look smart and effective I hope she keeps up the good work