Republicans think Trumps a doctor

[Jim in CT]

wayne, another.

https://therightscoop.com/watch-ny-d...d-zero-deaths/
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[Jim in CT]

wayne, another.

https://techstartups.com/2020/03/22/...am-grace-says/
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[Jim in CT]

wayne, another.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/04/...ycholoroquine/
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[The Dad Fisherman]

I’ve been talking to my daughter about this, she was telling me that the reason this drug is working for treatment is because of its immune-regulating properties. A lot of people are dying because their own immune systems are raging out of control and start attacking healthy cells. Administering this drug at the right time help to regulate it. The right time is key, as they do have to let the body’s immune system do it’s job against the virus.

I tend to listen to her as she works at the University of Maryland Medical Center and studies viruses.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I’ve been talking to my daughter about this, she was telling me that the reason this drug is working for treatment is because of its immune-regulating properties. A lot of people are dying because their own immune systems are raging out of control and start attacking healthy cells. Administering this drug at the right time help to regulate it. The right time is key, as they do have to let the body’s immune system do it’s job against the virus.

I tend to listen to her as she works at the University of Maryland Medical Center and studies viruses.
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she sounds like a wacky Trumplican to me!
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

she sounds like a wacky Trumplican to me!
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This is basically what she was telling me. Shows some promise.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/h...ne-system.html
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

This is basically what she was telling me. Shows some promise.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/h...ne-system.html
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how can it show promise? Trump
said it shows promise, therefore it must be the single
worst thing to do in response to the virus.
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[wdmso]

JIM I would say I am shocked by your sources. But I am not. When your articles end with

It's working, which is why President Trump is touting its use.

Your sources are just wa
Hat I suggested the are Doctors giving out a medication, and concluding this is the reason they got better,,,,


But please the CDC the FDA are in bed will the media to keep this life saving drug away from Americans and to discredit Trump..

Your delusional...

[Jim in CT]

wayne, another.

i’ll stop, i could go all day. And no, I don’t think Trump is a doctor. You are the one wallowing in ignorance on this issue. you would
do well to ask yourself why your sources kept all this from you. it was intentional, there was a specific reason why you had no
idea that actual doctors, in some cases, had some success with this drug. Can you guess?

https://www.independentsentinel.com/...ccess-is-real/
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wayne, another.

i’ll stop, i could go all day. And no, I don’t think Trump is a doctor. You are the one wallowing in ignorance on this issue. you would
do well to ask yourself why your sources kept all this from you. it was intentional, there was a specific reason why you had no
idea that actual doctors, in some cases, had some success with this drug. Can you guess?

https://www.independentsentinel.com/...ccess-is-real/
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So an oncologist is treating a 100 patients with Covid 19 with hydroxychloroquine

Not sure I would go to my oncologists and I have one , if I thought I had Covid 19
Just saying ,, and Laura Ingraham would never have anyone on here show who wouldn't support her vision

[spence]

Originally Posted by wdmso

and Laura Ingraham would never have anyone on here show who wouldn't support her vision

She’s a truth whisperer. Jim is woke.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

She’s a truth whisperer. Jim is woke.
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I'm not woke. But unlike you two, I'm rational.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

She’s a truth whisperer. Jim is woke.
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You tried to differentiate "best option", from "an option that's better than the other available options"

Because that makes sense.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

So an oncologist is treating a 100 patients with Covid 19 with hydroxychloroquine

Not sure I would go to my oncologists and I have one , if I thought I had Covid 19
Just saying ,, and Laura Ingraham would never have anyone on here show who wouldn't support her vision

You do understand that one of the more susceptible groups to complications from Covid-19 are those on Chemo-therapy, right?

Why wouldn't an oncologist be involved in the treatment regiment of their patients when Covid-19 is involved?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You do understand that one of the more susceptible groups to complications from Covid-19 are those on Chemo-therapy, right?

Why wouldn't an oncologist be involved in the treatment regiment of their patients when Covid-19 is involved?
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"You do understand that one of the more susceptible groups to complications from Covid-19 are those on Chemo-therapy, right? "

See, you just ruined his theory that only a doctor from a discipline completely unrelated to this, could agree with Trump. He's clinging to the hope that no doctor qualified to render an opinion on this, could possibly agree with Trump.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You do understand that one of the more susceptible groups to complications from Covid-19 are those on Chemo-therapy, right?

Why wouldn't an oncologist be involved in the treatment regiment of their patients when Covid-19 is involved?
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Maybe his patients were all ready on hydroxychloroquine

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/...oxychloroquine

Clinical Trials Using Hydroxychloroquine
Find a Clinical Trial
Clinical trials are research studies that involve people. The clinical trials on this list are

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Maybe his patients were all ready on hydroxychloroquine

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/...oxychloroquine

Clinical Trials Using Hydroxychloroquine
Find a Clinical Trial
Clinical trials are research studies that involve people. The clinical trials on this list are

And does this make my post any less valid???
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[Sea Dangles]

Wayne still hiding?
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[Sea Dangles]

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[wdmso]

This has happened ...

My Father who is 79 not in the best health but good for his age. He tested postive for Covid 19
Over a week ago and only had mild symptoms . Thankfully.

This leads me to the issue of hydroxychloroquine.. and its precived success in outcomes

If he was given hydroxychloroquine( HE WAS NOT) should I have concluded this was the reason he only had mild symptoms, based on his age and the news on who is at greater risk

But if he had been given it and with all the info on who's being impacted, by covid the conclusion would have been the hydroxychloroquine saved him , and perhaps his doctor would draw the same conclusions and prescribed to others ..

when what actual happen wasHe just kicked it with no medical Treatment other hydration and tylenol. And he just stayed at home

His recovery isnt Anecdotal ... but if he was on hydroxychloroquine it would be considered anecdotal

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

This has happened ...

My Father who is 79 not in the best health but good for his age. He tested postive for Covid 19
Over a week ago and only had mild symptoms . Thankfully.

This leads me to the issue of hydroxychloroquine.. and its precived success in outcomes

If he was given hydroxychloroquine( HE WAS NOT) should I have concluded this was the reason he only had mild symptoms, based on his age and the news on who is at greater risk

But if he had been given it and with all the info on who's being impacted, by covid the conclusion would have been the hydroxychloroquine saved him , and perhaps his doctor would draw the same conclusions and prescribed to others ..

when what actual happen wasHe just kicked it with no medical Treatment other hydration and tylenol. And he just stayed at home

His recovery isnt Anecdotal ... but if he was on hydroxychloroquine it would be considered anecdotal

You are so, so ignorant on this. I'm glad you aren't advising your dad (thank God his case is mild, I hope it stays that way!)

It's not for people with mild symptoms. It's mostly being reserved for people with severe symptoms, and many doctors have ghad success.

Obviously, if a person takes the drug and gets better, that doesn't necessarily mean the drug was the reason...perhaps they would have gotten better on their own.

But why are so many doctors saying that it's helping, in some cases? It's not 100% effective, nothing is. But why are so many doctors saying they are having success, with certain kinds of patients? They're all lying?

Just because you and Spence hate the fact that Trump was right about something, doesn't mean he can't ever be right bout anything.

That's all this is. If Trump said chloroquine could never help, you'd all be saying everyone should take it.

I'm no expert on medicine. I leave it to the experts. So when I hear doctor after doctor after doctor say that the drug has helped in certain cases, I have n reason to doubt them. You and Spence and CNN and MSNBC have a reason to doubt them - you hate Trump.

NO DOCTOR, not one, is denying that most who get it can recover with no medical treatment. What they are saying (and you'd know this if you'd take your fingers out of your ears), is that some very sick patients, are having success with the drug. They're not saying everyone needs the drug, they're not saying everyone is a good candidate to take the drug, they're not saying that everyone who is a good candidate will be cured with the drug. They are saying it helps.

You guys are completely out of your minds, and have turned this forum into an absolute waste, when it didn't used to be that way. It's not possible to have a rational conversation.

[Jim in CT]

Wayne, a local ABC News station, isn't trustworthy?

https://abc7news.com/coronavirus-dru...quine/6079864/

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Wayne, a local ABC News station, isn't trustworthy?

https://abc7news.com/coronavirus-dru...quine/6079864/

Again you missing the point. He uses it with zinc another doctor uses it something elses. Aka the need for a study


Anecdotal evidence. Ask him if he is 100% sure if this is the cause of their recovery...

Jim you ingnore the thousands who are getting released from the hospital who have been on vents or hospitalized and released

Over your. Crusade. To prove hydroxychloroquine works and Trump was right

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Again you missing the point. He uses it with zinc another doctor uses it something elses. Aka the need for a study


Anecdotal evidence. Ask him if he is 100% sure if this is the cause of their recovery...

Jim you ingnore the thousands who are getting released from the hospital who have been on vents or hospitalized and released

Over your. Crusade. To prove hydroxychloroquine works and Trump was right

No, I'm not missing the point You are saying there's no evidence that it works. That's demonstrably false. There is all kinds of evidence that it works, you just don't like the political implication that Trump might have been right bout something.

I don't give a frogs fat azz if Trump was right or wrong. Regardless of your opinion of Trump, the drug is having some success.

Why does this have anything to do with Trump? Why does he factor into this at all? Answer - you are obsessed with him.

If Trump never said a word about this drug, you'd be agreeing with me here.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No, I'm not missing the point You are saying there's no evidence that it works. That's demonstrably false. There is all kinds of evidence that it works, you just don't like the political implication that Trump might have been right bout something.

I don't give a frogs fat azz if Trump was right or wrong. Regardless of your opinion of Trump, the drug is having some success.

Why does this have anything to do with Trump? Why does he factor into this at all? Answer - you are obsessed with him.

What is your bar in determining success 1 in a million. 2 % is it even a fact based number ,

If Trump never said a word about this drug, you'd be agreeing with me here.

What is your bar in determining success 1 in a million. 2 % is it even a fact based number ,

You still dont understand when The POTUS speaks people listen .. even if what's spoken is a lie or wishful thinking or Anecdotal this the issue with Trump ,, we still dont know who's whispering in his ear about hydroxychloroquine is it you?

Small Chloroquine Study Halted Over Risk of Fatal Heart Complications

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/h...rus-trump.html

Please note an actual factual study. Conducted out of the country , so they cant be against Trump

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You still dont understand when The POTUS speaks people listen .. even if what's spoken is a lie or wishful thinking or Anecdotal

Small Chloroquine Study Halted Over Risk of Fatal Heart Complications

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/h...rus-trump.html

Please note an actual factual study. Conducted out of the country , so they cant be against Trump

I get that words matter from a president, I do. And if your tune here was limited to his specific language, that's one thing. But you're denying that this drug works, and you're doing it for one reason only - you are deranged with hate for one person who said it. Fine, just listen to the doctors. But you can't do that, because your hatred of Trump is more compelling than your instinct to believe a large number of doctors.

Everyone knows all about that "small study", which s why the drug isn't a good idea for everyone.

Pathetic.

Politics is all that matters, which s why the same people who said we had to believe Kavanaugh's accuser, now believe in innocence until proven guilty in the case of Biden.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

What is your bar in determining success 1 in a million. 2 % is it even a fact based number ,

You still dont understand when The POTUS speaks people listen .. even if what's spoken is a lie or wishful thinking or Anecdotal this the issue with Trump ,, we still dont know who's whispering in his ear about hydroxychloroquine is it you?

Small Chloroquine Study Halted Over Risk of Fatal Heart Complications

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/h...rus-trump.html

Please note an actual factual study. Conducted out of the country , so they cant be against Trump

"What is your bar in determining success 1 in a million. 2 % is it even a fact based number , "

I don't have an exact number (thought I know a hell of a lot more about this stuff than you do), but when doctor after doctor after doctor says they are having success in certain cases, I figure that's very unlikely to be a coincidence or a pro-Trump conspiracy.

"we still dont know who's whispering in his ear about hydroxychloroquine is it you?"

I think you might be disabled. Trump is just listening to the same kinds of people that I'm listening.

Why do you doubt all those doctors who say it's working? What qualifications do you have, do conclude that they're all full of BS?

Everything you said in this entire thread, is gibberish.

[Pete F.]

Further information emerges from real doctors

CONCLUSIONS:
In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without
azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19.
An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with
hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of
ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...920v1.full.pdf

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Further information emerges from real doctors

CONCLUSIONS:
In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without
azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19.
An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with
hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of
ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...920v1.full.pdf

"Take it, what do you have to lose"

Other than a heart attack.
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[Sea Dangles]

I wonder why they use it in other countries. 🤡
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