Liberalism in 2021

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You still talking about those 2 people you insist representing all liberals
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i didn’t say they represent all liberals. it they are prominent, influential liberals.

i’ll
ask ghouls, what do you think about this? Sears asked to go on her show, abs instead, Reid and Dyson say she’s promoting white supremacy.

you ok with that? why not let Sears on to defend herself?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i didn’t say they represent all liberals.

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no, it's wayne that constantly makes the sweeping generalizations actually...

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i didn’t say they represent all liberals. it they are prominent, influential liberals.

i’ll
ask ghouls, what do you think about this? Sears asked to go on her show, abs instead, Reid and Dyson say she’s promoting white supremacy.

you ok with that? why not let Sears on to defend herself?
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you said entire liberal agenda entire
with no part left out; whole.

Jim that's such Bull they may be influential to whom follows them and it ends there .. they are 2 people

Just like the squad who the right likes to tell their base they are the democratic party and have all this influence .. it all about how dare a muslim and other people of color and are women Speak!

Its a Conservative trifecta they use promoting hate and outrage for their base

yet at the end of the day Jamaal Bowman of New York, Cori Bush of Missouri, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. all voted against the bill

their great influenced wasn't needed to pass the infrastructure Bill .. and they shot themselves in the foot if they expect big support from moderates in any bill they do support and want to pass...

I actually think they believed what the conservative media said about them

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim that's such Bull

Just like the squad who the right likes to tell their base they are the democratic party and have all this influence .. it all about how dare a muslim and other people of color and are women Speak!

ummmm...this is bull

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

you said entire liberal agenda entire
with no part left out; whole.

Jim that's such Bull they may be influential to whom follows them and it ends there .. they are 2 people

Just like the squad who the right likes to tell their base they are the democratic party and have all this influence .. it all about how dare a muslim and other people of color and are women Speak!

Its a Conservative trifecta they use promoting hate and outrage for their base

yet at the end of the day Jamaal Bowman of New York, Cori Bush of Missouri, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. all voted against the bill

their great influenced wasn't needed to pass the infrastructure Bill .. and they shot themselves in the foot if they expect big support from moderates in any bill they do support and want to pass...

I actually think they believed what the conservative media said about them

it’s bull to say that a host of her own show is influential..

she’s got enough influence over you, that guy are incapable of disagreeing with her. if she told you to lay an egg, you’d squat and ask what color.
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[Jim in CT]

wayne, the squad are 6 lunatic socialists who have never done anything. they have enormous influence in your party, you disagree? they are the only reason why the infastructure bill wasn’t passed until the democrats got clobbered this week. the speaker of the house made it clear she wanted that passed weeks ago, they blocked her.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wayne, the squad are 6 lunatic socialists who have never done anything. they have enormous influence in your party, you disagree? they are the only reason why the infastructure bill wasn’t passed until the democrats got clobbered this week. the speaker of the house made it clear she wanted that passed weeks ago, they blocked her.
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you just love making things up now I know why your a conservative
lies are easier than Truth

The squad lives in Conservatives Heads Because you've told to believe that !

the infrastructure was passed long ago and your delusional to think its passage now has anything to do with the VA election outcome !

using your logic why didn't the do it before the election ?


Conservatives can't understand the concept of Debate ? they are all about fidelity to the Party ..

and every republican who voted for the Bill is now a Rino in MAGA land

Republicans stay america 1st and then after that its crickets

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

you just love making things up now I know why your a conservative
lies are easier than Truth

The squad lives in Conservatives Heads Because you've told to believe that !

the infrastructure was passed long ago and your delusional to think its passage now has anything to do with the VA election outcome !

using your logic why didn't the do it before the election ?


Conservatives can't understand the concept of Debate ? they are all about fidelity to the Party ..

and every republican who voted for the Bill is now a Rino in MAGA land

Republicans stay america 1st and then after that its crickets

wtf are you talking about? infastructure passed THE SENATE a long time ago. it hadn’t passed in the house ( where the squad is), it passed the house last night, because the squad held it up. you’re telling me that’s incorrect? seriously?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wtf are you talking about? infastructure passed THE SENATE a long time ago. it hadn’t passed in the house ( where the squad is), it passed the house last night, because the squad held it up. you’re telling me that’s incorrect? seriously?
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jim you do know bills starts? in the house then go to the Senate and if both bodys pass the bill in its original form it goes to the president's desk...

And if the Senate changes it it goes back to the house to be re voted on if it passes that vote then it goes to the President's desk .. which happened yesterday

You do know that the Squad did not hold this bill up. The Congressional Progressive Caucus is composed of nearly 100 progressive members -- 95 members of the U.S. House of Representatives and one U.S. Senator. held it up not because they disagreed with it but they wanted both bills voted on at the same time ! they are called a negotiations and they lost! that fight



yet your conservative Queen Marjorie Taylor Greene Praises AOC, Calls Republicans Who Voted for Biden Plan 'Traitors'

like I said it just about owing the Libs with republicans America 1st is just a catch phrase

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

jim you do know bills starts? in the house then go to the Senate and if both bodys pass the bill in its original form it goes to the president's desk...

And if the Senate changes it it goes back to the house to be re voted on if it passes that vote then it goes to the President's desk .. which happened yesterday

You do know that the Squad did not hold this bill up. The Congressional Progressive Caucus is composed of nearly 100 progressive members -- 95 members of the U.S. House of Representatives and one U.S. Senator. held it up not because they disagreed with it but they wanted both bills voted on at the same time ! they are called a negotiations and they lost! that fight



yet your conservative Queen Marjorie Taylor Greene Praises AOC, Calls Republicans Who Voted for Biden Plan 'Traitors'

like I said it just about owing the Libs with republicans America 1st is just a catch phrase

i do know how bills start. you don’t. you do not have to start a bill in the house. where did you get that?

Pelosi and the moderates wanted infastructure passed a long time ago. the progressives, led by the squad, said no.

tell yourself that AOC isn’t influential
if it makes you feel better.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

yet your conservative Queen Marjorie Taylor Greene Praises AOC, Calls Republicans Who Voted for Biden Plan 'Traitors'

shouldn't call people traitors....right GS?

MTG is pretty funny....

[Pete F.]

Keep whining about the squad
So far, Democrats have cut child poverty in half, got us out of Afghanistan, added 5.3 million jobs, managed the most ambitious vaccine rollout in the nation’s history, and passed a $1.2 trillion investment in the water, roads, bridges and broadband.

Trump gave $2 trillion to the rich and tweeted a lot.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Keep whining about the squad
So far, Democrats have cut child poverty in half, got us out of Afghanistan, added 5.3 million jobs, managed the most ambitious vaccine rollout in the nation’s history, and passed a $1.2 trillion investment in the water, roads, bridges and broadband.

Trump gave $2 trillion to the rich and tweeted a lot.
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oh good...more propaganda

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Keep whining about the squad
So far, Democrats have cut child poverty in half, got us out of Afghanistan, added 5.3 million jobs, managed the most ambitious vaccine rollout in the nation’s history, and passed a $1.2 trillion investment in the water, roads, bridges and broadband.

Trump gave $2 trillion to the rich and tweeted a lot.
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when you started 65 anti-trump threads a day, that was ok with you. but everyone else is always whining. only you can criticize.

i’m not complaining about the squad, you stupid idiot. i love the squad. they’re a godsend to the gop. i hope they stay there forever. if they ever pass term limits, i hope those marxist dingbats are exempt and stay there for 100 years.

republicans LOVE the squad. you don’t get that?

seriously, where did you come from? scotland yard? maybe the fbi lab in Quantico?
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[Jim in CT]

Pete, per vaccines. when trump
left, 983,000 people a day we’re getting vaccinated. Biden isn’t doing more than a million a day. if he were, adults would be 100% vaccinated.

Biden inherited an infastructure that was vaccinating just about a million people
a day.

Jobs - unless you blame trump for what covid did to the economy, guy could compare Biden’s numbers to where trump was before covid. i’m
warning you, even though that’s the fair way to do it, you won’t like it. unemployment was lower under trump.

Biden is doing a decent job with getting job counts back., and for sure the stock market likes what he’s doing.

Biden gets credit for passing infastructure. Not doing so, was a big fat F for trump.

Pete, if all trump did was give tax cuts to the rich ( he lowered every single
marginal
tax rate, by the way), how can you possibly explain the Gallup poll, which showed a record number of americans said they were better off under trump. how can you possibly explain that?

Like this - duh.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...t-s-nearly-met

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[Pete F.]

Reading comprehension is not your strong point
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[wdmso]

But but big bird

Ted Cruz leads right-wing attack on Big Bird for promoting 'propaganda' after the Sesame Street character got the COVID-19 vaccine. GOP priorities


Not sure why Jim thinks AOC has more influence then joe manchin and kyrsten sinema.

Yet infrastructure gets passed, and Jim moves the goal posts again to SHE alone held it up? No sure how or way that’s relevant . Seeing the vast majority of Republicans wouldn’t dare help Dems pass a bill that let alone helped Americans no less Democratic’s…

That’s why those Republicans who voted for it are now ! The enemy Greene labeled them "traitors" and tweeted out a list of their names along with their office numbers.
Rep. Lauren Boebert of Colorado said in a tweet "these fraudulent RINOs" should be penalized "for advertising themselves as Republicans but governing as Democrats."

I can't believe Republicans just gave the Democrats their socialism bill," Rep Matt Gaetz of Florida said.

Rep. Chip Roy of Texas retweeted Rep. Warren Davidson of Ohio, who said it was "painful" to watch his Republican colleagues deliver the votes to Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

GOP Lawmaker B Rep.-elect Nicole Malliotakis (R-N.Y.) backs Biden's Infrastructure Bill to Own the Squad: 'I Voted Against AOC'

Oh really she is part of the GOP FREEDOM SQUAD ! by the way all those women used AOC as their villain and conservatives irrational. Fear of Socialism ad owing the libs to get elected…. That’s a winning strategy for the GOP they know never to try to get elected on policy. Just say guns god Abortion China socialism and communism and AOC and repeat

The majority of Republicans refuse do anything for the citizens of the US ! infrastructure is a classic example look at their responses. Clearly it will Help in all states but it helps the Democratics and that alone makes it unacceptable to the new GOP Man before country ! party before country !
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

But but big bird

Ted Cruz leads right-wing attack on Big Bird for promoting 'propaganda' after the Sesame Street character got the COVID-19 vaccine. GOP priorities


Not sure why Jim thinks AOC has more influence then joe manchin and kyrsten sinema.

Yet infrastructure gets passed, and Jim moves the goal posts again to SHE alone held it up? No sure how or way that’s relevant . Seeing the vast majority of Republicans wouldn’t dare help Dems pass a bill that let alone helped Americans no less Democratic’s…

That’s why those Republicans who voted for it are now ! The enemy Greene labeled them "traitors" and tweeted out a list of their names along with their office numbers.
Rep. Lauren Boebert of Colorado said in a tweet "these fraudulent RINOs" should be penalized "for advertising themselves as Republicans but governing as Democrats."

I can't believe Republicans just gave the Democrats their socialism bill," Rep Matt Gaetz of Florida said.

Rep. Chip Roy of Texas retweeted Rep. Warren Davidson of Ohio, who said it was "painful" to watch his Republican colleagues deliver the votes to Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

GOP Lawmaker B Rep.-elect Nicole Malliotakis (R-N.Y.) backs Biden's Infrastructure Bill to Own the Squad: 'I Voted Against AOC'

Oh really she is part of the GOP FREEDOM SQUAD ! by the way all those women used AOC as their villain and conservatives irrational. Fear of Socialism ad owing the libs to get elected…. That’s a winning strategy for the GOP they know never to try to get elected on policy. Just say guns god Abortion China socialism and communism and AOC and repeat

The majority of Republicans refuse do anything for the citizens of the US ! infrastructure is a classic example look at their responses. Clearly it will Help in all states but it helps the Democratics and that alone makes it unacceptable to the new GOP Man before country ! party before country !
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"Not sure why Jim thinks AOC has more influence then joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. "

(1) I never said anything like that. Why do you guys constantly claim I'm saying things i never said? When did I say that?

(2) Do yo understand that there are 2 chambers of the legislature? AOC is in the HOUSE. Manchin and Sinema are in the SENATE.

(3) "Influuence" means the ability to get others to do what you want them to do. Manchin isn't influencing other senators to vote the way he does, He and Sinema are two individuals who are in a senate that's tied 50-50. So they can single-handedly torpedo democratic bills, but they aren't influencing anyone else to vote with them. The other 48 democrats in the Senate are voting the way the DNC wants.

House is a different story. The progressive wing of the democratic party has repeatedly blocked the democrats from passing infastructure until Friday night. It's clear to me (but I can't prove it) that the squad are the most powerful force within the progressive wing of the democrats in the house.

There is constant talk of AOC issuing a primary challenge to Chuck Schumer. She's a force among house democrats. Obviously you hate that, but it's not my fault, I didn't vote for her, although I would vote for her if I could because shes a gift to the GOP.

Anyway, is there anything I can do, to get you to stop claiming that I'm saying things that I never came close to saying?

[Pete F.]

And then on the right in the house, you have The Geniuses: Greene, Gohmert, Gaetz, Good and Gosar.

Constantly looking for media attention, but not intelligent enough to accomplish anything.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

And then on the right in the house, you have The Geniuses: Greene, Gohmert, Gaetz, Good and Gosar.

Constantly looking for media attention, but not intelligent enough to accomplish anything.

everyone knows who AOC is. most people don’t know that list. but you did spell genius with a big G, that’s some terrific prop comedy.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

everyone knows who AOC is. most people don’t know that list. but you did spell genius with a big G, that’s some terrific prop comedy.
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They would fall into the genre of Tragicomedy pretty easily

Justice Dept. Adds Two Top Prosecutors to Matt Gaetz Case
The move by the department is a sign of the complex and high-stakes nature of the sex trafficking investigation into Representative Gaetz.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Calls D.C. Jail Section Holding Jan. 6 Rioters 'Patriot Wing'

Gohmert’s name appeared in a report detailing some of the evidence that’s come before the U.S. select committee that is investigating the January 6 attack on the Capitol.
Two organizers of the January 6 rally that preceded the storming of the building say that in the weeks before the event, they met with seven members of Congress or their staffers who were “intimately involved” in planning the demonstration. One of the seven who they say they met, or met the staffers of, is a Texas congressman: Gohmert. Other representatives were Lauren Boebert of Colorado, Paul Gosar of Arizona, and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia.

Paul Gosar (R-AZ) has shared a photoshopped anti-immigrant anime video that shows him killing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY).

What could have been a simple high school government lecture on civic duty and participation from a local congressman instead became a Covid-19 misinformation fest worthy of a primetime slot on Fox News. Congressman Bob Good (R-Va.) encouraged a group of high school students to defy a statewide school mask mandate, and he spread lies about vaccines and how the virus spreads, the Rappahannock News reported.

“If nobody in Rappahannock complies [with the mask mandate], they can’t stop everyone,” Good told a Rappahannock County High School government class of approximately 20 students this week. “If I was ya’ll, I’d say none of ya’ll wear a mask. What are they gonna do? They’re still going to have school.”

What a bunch of Geniuses

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Not sure why Jim thinks AOC has more influence then joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. "

(1) I never said anything like that. Why do you guys constantly claim I'm saying things i never said? When did I say that?

Jim AOC is all you talk about you never mention the other 2 so its a reasonable conclusion you think she has more influence than any Dem in the House or the Senate

(2) Do yo understand that there are 2 chambers of the legislature? AOC is in the HOUSE. Manchin and Sinema are in the SENATE.

no one is talking about Chambers .. Just influence and Power

(3) "Influuence" means the ability to get others to do what you want them to do. Manchin isn't influencing other senators to vote the way he does, He and Sinema are two individuals who are in a senate that's tied 50-50. So they can single-handedly torpedo democratic bills, but they aren't influencing anyone else to vote with them. The other 48 democrats in the Senate are voting the way the DNC wants.

Seems AOC and the squad failed in the ability to get others to do what they want them to do. seeing her caucus voted for the Bill


House is a different story. The progressive wing of the democratic party has repeatedly blocked the democrats from passing infrastructure until Friday night. It's clear to me (but I can't prove it) that the squad are the most powerful force within the progressive wing of the democrats in the house.

Here we go with the conservative logic feelings over Facts

There is constant talk of AOC issuing a primary challenge to Chuck Schumer. She's a force among house democrats. Obviously you hate that, but it's not my fault, I didn't vote for her, although I would vote for her if I could because shes a gift to the GOP.

Constant talk from WHO? and if she Does that's Her choice as for a gift to the GOP of course she is .. the gullible Republican base is the jerry springer show on steroids

Anyway, is there anything I can do, to get you to stop claiming that I'm saying things that I never came close to saying?

Jim my statement " Jim thinks AOC has more influence than joe manchin and kyrsten sinema"


is Just MY opinion.. I never claimed you said anything ...


AOC deranged syndrome its a thing

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim my statement " Jim thinks AOC has more influence than joe manchin and kyrsten sinema"


is Just MY opinion.. I never claimed you said anything ...

this is bidenesque....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

this is bidenesque....

AOC is all I talk about.
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[Pete F.]

If you want a good example of conservatives in 2021

To date, Alabama has made plans to spend $440 million dollars of our American Rescue Plan funds. Of the $440 million, $400 million of it will be spent on building prisons while the other $40 million will be spent on hospitals.
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[Pete F.]

In today’s Republican Party, you get cancelled for crossing party lines and applauded for publicly fantasizing about the murder of Democrats.
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[wdmso]

i read this about how conservatives attacked the American Olympic teams and athletes..

Conservatives anti-Americanism still pays lip service to love of country: Its proponents declare themselves the true patriots, describing their enemies as the nation’s betrayers. But when the cadre of traitors includes everyone from election administrators to Olympians to the Capitol Police, it becomes clear that the only America they love is the one that exists in their heads. When they contemplate the actual United State they are the real America!

This is today’s Republican Party no doubt in my mind

I
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

i read this about how conservatives attacked the American Olympic teams and athletes..

Conservatives anti-Americanism still pays lip service to love of country: Its proponents declare themselves the true patriots, describing their enemies as the nation’s betrayers. But when the cadre of traitors includes everyone from election administrators to Olympians to the Capitol Police, it becomes clear that the only America they love is the one that exists in their heads. When they contemplate the actual United State they are the real America!

This is today’s Republican Party no doubt in my mind

I
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No doubt. All those republicans who say they care about unborn babies and fiscal sanity, who say they care about individual liberty, they're just a bunch of hate filled maniacs.

The worst are the evangelicals and catholics. The ones who are so repugnant, that they offer low-cost (often free) food, shelter, education, healthcare, adoption services, to Americans who need help. Those dirty rotten bastards. As you have said, republicans are incapable of doing anything for anybody. Which is why studies show that liberals are far more charitable, right?

And your conclusion is so logical, everyone agrees with you, which is why the democrats rolled to victory in VA and why they won in a landslide in the NJ race.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No doubt. All those republicans who say they care about unborn babies and fiscal sanity, who say they care about individual liberty, they're just a bunch of hate filled maniacs.

of course they will say it but they don't mean it

The worst are the evangelicals and catholics. The ones who are so repugnant, that they offer low-cost (often free) food, shelter, education, healthcare, adoption services, to Americans who need help. Those dirty rotten bastards. As you have said, republicans are incapable of doing anything for anybody. Which is why studies show that liberals are far more charitable, right?

again another retread ! get some new material

And your conclusion is so logical, everyone agrees with you, which is why the democrats rolled to victory in VA and why they won in a landslide in the NJ race.

You still think Republicans are the Majority .. Sometimes the best candidate wins

that's why Biden won.. and why Yonkin won

there's nothing cryptic about ethier victory

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You still think Republicans are the Majority .. Sometimes the best candidate wins

that's why Biden won.. and why Yonkin won

there's nothing cryptic about ethier victory

"of course they will say it but they don't mean it"

Republicans don't really care about the unborn. Of course!

"You still think Republicans are the Majority"

I'm not sure I ever said that. You guy shave said the GOP is, in a practical sense, dead. It's absurd. There are some left leaning folks out there (Joe Manchin) who say we're a center-right country. Thats not necessarily going be the numbers of registered democrats and republicans, but rather, based on what people believe is right.

"Sometimes the best candidate wins

that's why Biden won"

In my opinion, very very few people voted "for" Biden. They voted "against" Trump. Those are not the same thing. Again, I can't prove it, but I'd bet I'm right.

" and why Yonkin won"

I sincerely credit you for saying that, but everyone on the left (including the media) are saying he won because of white supremacy, and because parents are lying about divisive stuff taught in schools. You yourself, said those people were wrong (somehow, you know better than they do, what's taught in Virginia schools).

"there's nothing cryptic about ethier victory "

Agreed 100%. America had zero interest in another 4 years of Trump, and VA proved that there's been a rightward shift in the last 12 months.