Rittenhouse trial

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

criminals and lunatics running around attacking people that are not threatening them need to have some consequences....oooops....they did

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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

the left and media lied and mischaracterized this entire thing as they've done with so many other things...they will continue to deny...it's a sickness

it’s actually a well
coordinated plot, i think. but in 2016, that led to trump. who knows what it might lead to in 2022 and 2024.

spence, if someone points a loaded handgun at your forehead from 3 feet away, is it self defense?

if someone is smashing you in the neck and head with a skateboard, are you at risk of serious injury?

and if someone said they’re going to kill you and then tried to wrestle your gun away from you, there’s no argument for self defense?

we all know exactly what tune you’d be singing if rittenhouse was a black
kid who shot some of the january 6 rioters.

the reality of what happened here, isn’t even close to the way it was portrayed by democrats and the media. Not even close. There’s no such thing as “news” anymore. It was spun deliberately for political
reasons, and tney do that, because it works in lemmings like….well, you know who they are.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

the left and media lied and mischaracterized this entire thing as they've done with so many other things...they will continue to deny...it's a sickness

And Derek Chauvin was just doing his Job…

But only the left and the media. Lie and mischaracterize things

More evidence right wing brainwashing is working
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

And Derek Chauvin was just doing his Job…

But only the left and the media. Lie and mischaracterize things

More evidence right wing brainwashing is working
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what’s the longest you can go, before you respond to something that nobody said?

are you even aware of how often you do it? or what it means that you do it constantly?

One guy he shot, was pointing a gun at his head from a few feet away.

Another guy he shot, told Rittenhousebhebwas going to kill him, then friend to wrestle his gun away from him.

The third guy, was beating him in the head and neck with a skateboard.

Does that make Rittenhouse the skinhead murdered that your side desperately wants him to be?

you know you can’t win the facts of this case, so you go to a case where the facts are on your side. But the facts won’t always be in your side wayne. sorry to break it to you. sometimes the facts paint the conservative issue in a favorable light.

but like spence, you can’t accept that. not once, not ever. the left has to win every single time.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

And Derek Chauvin was just doing his Job…

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isn't he in jail?

[Jim in CT]

Rosenbaum had also threatened to
kill Rittenhouse, then later tried to grab his gun. Self defense.

again, this was all made possible by elected officials who did nothing to stop the riots.

Joe Biden, naturally, called him a white supremacist. because he #^&#^&#^&#^& three white people. And biden gets a pass for lying. as always.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Rosenbaum had also threatened to
kill Rittenhouse, then later tried to grab his gun. Self defense.

again, this was all made possible by elected officials who did nothing to stop the riots.

Joe Biden, naturally, called him a white supremacist. because he #^&#^&#^&#^& three white people. And biden gets a pass for lying. as always.
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Your little heroes mother drove him across state lines with a gun.

When Kyle told the cops he had just shot someone, the officer ultimately tells him to “Go home! Go home! Go home!”

He did.

Is that what it’s like for people like KyleRittenhouse in America?
Explain further how white privilege doesn’t exist
Clown
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Your little heroes mother drove him across state lines with a gun.

When Kyle told the cops he had just shot someone, the officer ultimately tells him to “Go home! Go home! Go home!”

He did.

Is that what it’s like for people like KyleRittenhouse in America?
Explain further how white privilege doesn’t exist
Clown
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i said he was very stupid. from that, you interpret he’s my hero.

you don’t get invited to too many MENSA picnics, do you?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

When Kyle told the cops he had just shot someone, the officer ultimately tells him to “Go home! Go home! Go home!”

He did.

Is that what it’s like for people like KyleRittenhouse in America?
Explain further how white privilege doesn’t exist
Clown
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Well Mr Mensa?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Well Mr Mensa?
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you’re responding to your own posts now? that’s not weird.

investigate the cop who told him that. but that summer, we kind of stopped enforcing laws. rioters allowed to riot, looters slowed to loot, arsonists allowed to burn buildings. liberals are the ones willing to forget about the law when there’s political capital to gain.

Duh.

If there was white orivilege, he would t be facing BS charges that could imprison him for life.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re responding to your own posts now? that’s not weird.

investigate the cop who told him that. but that summer, we kind of stopped enforcing laws. rioters allowed to riot, looters slowed to loot, arsonists allowed to burn buildings. liberals are the ones willing to forget about the law when there’s political capital to gain.

Duh.

If there was white orivilege, he would t be facing BS charges that could imprison him for life.
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I’ll never catch up to you in posts, little girl

Nobody was not enforcing laws, that’s why cops were all around when Kyle Rittenhouse was walking around with a gun, though they failed to ask him any questions.
Wonder why

Just what would you suggest an appropriate response from law enforcement to rioters would be?
Would that same response have been appropriate on January 6th?

Two people are dead and one misguided kids life’s all f’d up

You’re blaming it on liberals, I suppose they bought him a gun and drove him there
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[Jim in CT]

can one of the liberals here, comment on the notion spread by the left, that Rittenhouses actions are the acts of a white suoremacist? He shot theee whites people.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

can one of the liberals here, comment on the notion spread by the left, that Rittenhouses actions are the acts of a white suoremacist? He shot theee whites people.
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You were fed that by who?
I would surmise that it may have been said by A talking head on TV
Then amplified by right wing media
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Your little heroes mother drove him across state lines with a gun.

When Kyle told the cops he had just shot someone, the officer ultimately tells him to “Go home! Go home! Go home!”

He did.

Is that what it’s like for people like KyleRittenhouse in America?
Explain further how white privilege doesn’t exist
Clown
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There's not enough information in that little sketch to determine anything about "white privilege," but it's skimpy enough to jump to a conclusion if you want to.

I remember being on Jury in Detroit several years ago in a trial of a small group of black teens in a black neighborhood just outside of Grosse Pointe who had observed a white man in a Cadillac coming from the direction of Grosse Pointe daily passing through their neighborhood down that street always at about the same time. They decided to place a fallen tree across the road around that time to block him. When he stopped and got out of the car to remove the tree they jumped him, beat him up, and the upshot was that he died as a result of their attack.

We, the jury, were given the facts, then, I can't remember, either the trial commenced awhile or just after it did, the judge, a famous black judge in Detroit at the time, put a halt and ordered us back into the jury room where we waited to find out what was up. After some time, the Judge came in, smiling, and informing us that we were not going to go through the inconvenience of a trial. That he had made the decision, because of the unjust racist conditions that the teens had experienced all their lives they could not be truly culpable, that they did not understand the gravity of what they had done. And he had given them a good stern lecture on how what they did was wrong and that they could ruin their lives and spend the rest of their life in prison if they continued down that path. He was convinced that they understood and told them if they did not change and if they ever did such a thing again, he would see to it that they would spend the rest of their lives in prison. And he released them.

He was obviously pleased with how he handled it and happily gave us the news, probably thinking we would understand and be satisfied and happy as well that we could go home.

It was a long time ago, and I've forgotten the details and my account is probably not accurate in the details. But I remember that I felt something was not right. That, though the judge was right that I would be glad not to go through a trial, I didn't feel that justice had been served. But, apparently, he being a longstanding and important judge, there must have been a valid reason for what he did.

[Pete F.]

Let’s see, if the kid didn’t break the law nothing would have happened.
Those killed that day were only 2 of the 40 killed each day with a gun in this country.
No problem here


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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Let’s see, if the kid didn’t break the law nothing would have happened.
Those killed that day were only 2 of the 40 killed each day with a gun in this country.
No problem here


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defending yourself isn’t breaking the law.

Pete, what would your tell a. haines owner who pays his taxes and is a good citizen. whose business is burning to the ground because of something he had absolutely nothing to do with, and the cops and firemen he’s oYing won’t help because their elected bosses are too afraid of the political
optics to enforce the law? what would you say to that business owner? “suck it up, cupcake?”

he’s supposed to watch his entire life burn down for something he had absolutely no part in?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Let’s see, if the kid didn’t break the law nothing would have happened.

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we are determining that right now...doesn't look good for the prosecutor that brought the charges

[Raider Ronnie]

For all of the apologist here that say he shouldn’t have been there, then tell me who the hell SHOULD have been there ???
Where are the police stopping the thugs from starting the fires ???
Where’s the military ???
I’m pretty sure this had been going on for a few days prior and plenty of businesses were torched to the ground before this kid showed up.
Unlike most on this forum this kid had balls doing what he did !
This #^&#^&#^&#^&ing country, courts & politicians are making it so criminals have more rights than law abiding citizens.
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[scottw]

the left and media are now attacking the judge....these people need better safe spaces...maybe put some funding for that in build back better

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

For all of the apologist here that say he shouldn’t have been there, then tell me who the hell SHOULD have been there ???
Where are the police stopping the thugs from starting the fires ???
Where’s the military ???
I’m pretty sure this had been going on for a few days prior and plenty of businesses were torched to the ground before this kid showed up.
Unlike most on this forum this kid had balls doing what he did !
This #^&#^&#^&#^&ing country, courts & politicians are making it so criminals have more rights than law abiding citizens.
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here’s who should have been there - local police, state police, national guard, federal troops if need be. the mayor, governor, and trump all did nothing to quell these riots.

say what you want about Rudy Giuliani, this stuff didnt happen when he was mayor. He didn’t allow it.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

say what you want about Rudy Giuliani, this stuff didnt happen when he was mayor. He didn’t allow it.
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That’s comical

Before January 6th, 2021, there was September 16th, 1992 -- a day that bore much in common with Wednesday’s assault on the Capitol.

A peaceful demonstration turned ugly. Thousands pushed past barricades and mobbed the seat of government -- in this case, City Hall in lower Manhattan. There was vandalism.
And firing up the crowd was Rudy Giuliani.

Giuliani, then a candidate for mayor running on a law-and-order platform, gave a fiery speech to an enormous crowd of protesters that consisted largely of off-duty police officers. They’d gathered to protest then-Mayor David Dinkins and his plan for an all-civilian police oversight board.

“The reason the morale of the police department of the city of New York is so low,” Giuliani said, “is one reason, and one reason alone: David Dinkins!”

The protest devolved into mayhem, as rioters jumped on cars and blocked traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge. On-duty officers did little to police the crowd, much like the scene Wednesday at the Capitol.

Then, as now, critics said Giuliani, a former U.S. Attorney, was culpable.

“For Rudy Giuliani to urge them on, as it were, demonstrates an irresponsibility on his behalf,” Dinkins said that day. “He who professes to be a law enforcement person.”
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[The Dad Fisherman]

I get a kick out of the whole “he shouldn’t have been there, therefore he’s guilty” angle

Yes it was immensely stupid for him to be there, but last time I checked, stupidity isn’t illegal (although it should be) It also isn’t illegal for him to be there. It’s a moot point on whether it was self defense or not.

The events as they unfolded in regards to the actions he took are all that matter in the context of this trial

My 2 cents
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I get a kick out of the whole “he shouldn’t have been there, therefore he’s guilty” angle

Yes it was immensely stupid for him to be there, but last time I checked, stupidity isn’t illegal (although it should be) It also isn’t illegal for him to be there. It’s a moot point on whether it was self defense or not.

The events as they unfolded in regards to the actions he took are all that matter in the context of this trial

My 2 cents
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HE WENT THERE WITH A SEMI AUTOMATIC ASSULT RIFLE. HE WAS NOT OLD ENOUGH TO OWN ONE!!!! Wtf dude…..
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

HE WENT THERE WITH A SEMI AUTOMATIC ASSULT RIFLE. HE WAS NOT OLD ENOUGH TO OWN ONE!!!! Wtf dude…..
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And he will probably be found guilty on that charge, Dude

The self defense is a different set of circumstances and charges, Dude
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[Got Stripers]

He is guilty of the worst fake tears and emotion I’ve ever seen, do stupid things you might do stupid time, there is no cure for stupid.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

He is guilty of the worst fake tears and emotion I’ve ever seen, do stupid things you might do stupid time, there is no cure for stupid.

WHo knows what he was feeling. Not hard to imagine an 18 year-old in that situation would be overwhelmed, is it?

Anyway, he shot three people.

One of them, had a gun pointed at the kids head from a few feet away.

A second one, was smashing him in the head and neck with a skateboard.

Third one told Rittenhouse he was going to kill him, then tried wrestling the gun from his hands.

Which of those 3, can be presumed to not be self defense beyond any reasonable doubt? Come on.

He was very stupid, and he probably went looking for trouble and found it. His parents are also at fault, what awful parents they must be. This is reason number 100,000 why violent riots are not a good idea, and why states should not ignore violent riots.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

He is guilty of the worst fake tears and emotion I’ve ever seen, do stupid things you might do stupid time, there is no cure for stupid.

wow...I wonder what the punishment is for fake tears and emotion....you need help too

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I get a kick out of the whole “he shouldn’t have been there, therefore he’s guilty” angle

Yes it was immensely stupid for him to be there, but last time I checked, stupidity isn’t illegal (although it should be) It also isn’t illegal for him to be there. It’s a moot point on whether it was self defense or not.

The events as they unfolded in regards to the actions he took are all that matter in the context of this trial

My 2 cents
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But when a cops shoots an unarmed person all we hear from the usual suspects is they should have done this or should have done that . And the favorite do stupid things win stupid prizes

now you have someone clearly going to Pick a fight to defend property that isn’t his Juiced on Right wing ideas being praised by the police.. gets over his head and killed 2 people claiming self defense

but dead men can’t Claim self defense they are dead

And the one with a gun pointed at the kid suddenly is not allow to defend himself curious

Rittenhouse went their to look cool like he was some bad ass ( he was 17 and seems to have the maturity of a 15 year old .. not unusual but every adult failed that kid . He was used as a little proxy fighter for the MAGA and these militia cause, and is still being championed as a hero by these same groups .. and supported by them and their like mind followers

look at how is defense was funded .. you don’t see that everyday .


I have a hard time with these stand your ground or open carry self defense cases

so you are carrying a gun . start a fight start loosing the fight shoot the person you started the fight with and claim self defense?

Welcome to America
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

now you have someone clearly going to Pick a fight

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who did he pick a fight with?...are you paying attention at all?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

so you are carrying a gun . start a fight start loosing the fight shoot the person you started the fight with and claim self defense?


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again...who did he start a fight with?