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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Ohio secretary of state finds 27 potentially illegal votes

out of 6 million Cast


Investigation finds only 475 cases of potential voter fraud in battleground states won by Biden looks like there is no issue with voter integrity . unless your a republican?

But for the Cult 475 case proves voter fraud exist and their conspiracy it proven


but voter Fraud looks like this

A Wisconsin man who mistakenly thought he could vote while on parole.

A woman in Arizona suspected of sending in a ballot for her dead mother.

A Pennsylvania man who went twice to the polls, voting once on his own behalf and once for his son.

There was no widespread, coordinated deceit... but dont tell Republicans or Trump fans just more fake news

Fraud didn't win the election for Biden. But its probably not 27 votes out of 6 million either. How do they confirm absentee ballots wayne, do you know? Signatures, they compare signatures visually. Give me a break, how many people can spot signature fraud? That's a legitimate concern, one that can be completely eliminated if you make people show ids to get absentee ballots

How many places are there, where it's harder for blacks to get id's than whites?

Zero. Literally, zero. Which is even less than 27 out of 6 million.

Doesn't stop one side from saying id requirements are racist.

[wdmso]

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How does that Happen?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Fraud didn't win the election for Biden. But its probably not 27 votes out of 6 million either. How do they confirm absentee ballots wayne, do you know? Signatures, they compare signatures visually. Give me a break, how many people can spot signature fraud? That's a legitimate concern, one that can be completely eliminated if you make people show ids to get absentee ballots

How many places are there, where it's harder for blacks to get id's than whites?

Zero. Literally, zero. Which is even less than 27 out of 6 million.

Doesn't stop one side from saying id requirements are racist.

What not enough Facts for you Jim theses results are coming from Members of your own Party ! with or without voter ID another red herring

Just admitted you believe trump's Big Lie and the reason why Republicans Have changed Voting Laws you can't have a legitimate concern when the reason claimed does not exist ..

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

What not enough Facts for you Jim theses results are coming from Members of your own Party ! with or without voter ID another red herring

Just admitted you believe trump's Big Lie and the reason why Republicans Have changed Voting Laws you can't have a legitimate concern when the reason claimed does not exist ..

How many voting volunteers are effective trained to actually spot signature irregularities?

How did Ohio determine that all the absentee ballots were valid? I'm asking a question, and I know that you don't know the answer. But you'll insist the absentee ballots were legit, not because you have any reason to believe it, but because it helps liberalism.

For the second time...how many states have harder rules for blacks to get an id, than whites?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Fraud didn't win the election for Biden. But its probably not 27 votes out of 6 million either. How do they confirm absentee ballots wayne, do you know? Signatures, they compare signatures visually. Give me a break, how many people can spot signature fraud? That's a legitimate concern, one that can be completely eliminated if you make people show ids to get absentee ballots

How many places are there, where it's harder for blacks to get id's than whites?

Zero. Literally, zero. Which is even less than 27 out of 6 million.

Doesn't stop one side from saying id requirements are racist.

When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

The Impact of Voter Suppression on Communities of Color

Over the past decade, scholars have studied myriad ways in which certain state voting rules make participation disproportionately difficult for Americans of color — including strict voter ID laws, lines faced on Election Day, and other facets of our election system. This analysis catalogs some of the most prominent research findings on the negative impact of voting restrictions on voters of color.

There is a large and growing pile of evidence that strict voter ID laws disproportionately impact voters of color.

Using county-level turnout data around the country, researchers demonstrated that the racial turnout gap grew when states enacted strict voter ID laws.
Researchers have also looked specifically at the turnout of individuals in North Carolina without proper identification, and they found that the enactment of the law reduced turnout. The turnout effects continued even after the strict voter ID law was repealed.
Another study shows that voters in Texas who would be barred from voting absent the state’s “Reasonable Impediments Declaration” (a court-ordered remedy allowing voters without proper IDs to participate) are disproportionately Black and Latino. The study argues that its “findings indicate that strict identification laws will stop a disproportionately minority, otherwise willing set of registered voters from voting.”
An article using a similar methodology and administrative records found that voters of color in Michigan were more likely to show up to the polls without proper identification.
Yet another study used survey data to demonstrate that voters of color in states across the country lacked access to the needed IDs to vote in their state.
While some studies have argued that voter IDs have little effect on overall turnout, it is clear that voters of color are less likely to have the IDs needed to participate.
Restrictions on Sunday voting — such as those proposed last year in Georgia and Texas — would fall disproportionately on voters of color.

Our research showed that voters of color were substantially more likely to vote on Sundays in Georgia than white voters.
Another study argues that these Sunday voters do not seamlessly transition to other days after cuts are made. For example, when Sunday voting was outlawed in Florida in 2012, Black voters who voted on Sunday in 2008 were especially likely to abstain from voting.
Voters of color consistently face longer wait times on Election Day — lines that would be exacerbated by cutting alternative options, such as vote-by-mail or expansive early voting hours.

Our report from 2020 indicates that voters of color around the country reported longer wait times in the 2018 midterms, using self-reported wait times from a national survey.
Other researchers have used cellphone data to demonstrate the same thing: waits are longer in neighborhoods with more racial and ethnic minorities.
Other research — including work from the Brennan Center — has also used administrative data to show that polling places with fewer white voters have more slowdowns.
Even vote-by-mail options, however, don’t completely level the playing field. Voters of color face more difficulties voting by mail, too.

Our research shows that mail ballots were rejected at much higher rates than those of white voters in the Georgia primary in 2020.
Other studies have found that this was true in Georgia and Florida’s 2018 general elections, too.
Polling place consolidation is also especially harmful for the turnout of racial and ethnic minorities.

The Brennan Center authored the first academic study documenting the turnout effects of the Covid-19 pandemic. We showed that polling place consolidation severely depressed turnout in Milwaukee’s presidential primary — and that the effects were even larger for Black than white voters.
This joins other research showing that voters of color are disproportionately impacted by polling place closures. This may be due to worse transportation access.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

This attempt at sharing a "pearl of wisdom" is more often used as a slogan to confirm an air of righteousness to a given agenda.

Privilege can be right or wrong or be earned or just be. Equality, given various contexts of oppression, can be a privilege.

So-called White Privilege is considered to be wrong or bad, not because of actual privileges, but because only whites have access to them. Because whites have created a system which gives them privileges denied to or at the expense of people of other colors.

The privilege accorded to the citizens of our republic, is not the elusive, probably unobtainable privilege of equality in this world of universal inequalities--except for only an equality before the law. It is, rather, the privilege of being free in this world of widespread oppression and having that freedom protected equally by the law.

"White Privilege" is, to me, mostly a misnomer. Many or most whites are not substantially privileged by being white. And many blacks access the supposed privilege by "acting white"--that is they do the things that whites do to actuate their so-called privilege. In that respect, actuating privilege is earning the privilege.

So long as we are free to earn our privileges, we should do well as a society. And if we concentrate on universal freedom rather than universal equality, we can achieve the privileges to our liking.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

This attempt at sharing a "pearl of wisdom" is more often used as a slogan to confirm an air of righteousness to a given agenda.

Privilege can be right or wrong or be earned or just be. Equality, given various contexts of oppression, can be a privilege.

So-called White Privilege is considered to be wrong or bad, not because of actual privileges, but because only whites have access to them. Because whites have created a system which gives them privileges denied to or at the expense of people of other colors.

The privilege accorded to the citizens of our republic, is not the elusive, probably unobtainable privilege of equality in this world of universal inequalities--except for only an equality before the law. It is, rather, the privilege of being free in this world of widespread oppression and having that freedom protected equally by the law.

"White Privilege" is, to me, mostly a misnomer. Many or most whites are not substantially privileged by being white. And many blacks access the supposed privilege by "acting white"--that is they do the things that whites do to actuate their so-called privilege. In that respect, actuating privilege is earning the privilege.

So long as we are free to earn our privileges, we should do well as a society. And if we concentrate on universal freedom rather than universal equality, we can achieve the privileges to our liking.

Apparently in your opinion all the foolish blacks need to do is “act white”, a while ago it was act like the good Asians.
Yea, structural racism doesn’t exist
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Apparently in your opinion all the foolish blacks need to do is “act white”, a while ago it was act like the good Asians.
Yea, structural racism doesn’t exist
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I put "act white" in quotes because it is the pejorative trope used by racist blacks or by black scholars who create theories such as Critical Race Theory to denigrate blacks who do the things that make it possible or make it easier to succeed in our American experiment. You know, those things that white folks always say you need to do--nuclear family, work ethic, good education, personal responsibility, and so forth. It is what's required for white folks to make their "privilege" work for them. So if you want some of that white privilege, "act white."

BTW, your slogan about privilege and equality doesn't quite hit the mark for CRTers. They're not so much about blacks achieving equality. They pretty much agree that legal equality has been achieved. But what has not occurred is equity. They're more about equity than equality. “Equity”, “social justice,” “diversity” and “inclusion.”

I didn't say that so-called "acting white" was "all" that was needed for black folks to succeed. I did mention that they, we, all need to be free to "act white" as it were. And that the role of government is to protect that freedom. The American experiment is about individual freedom and responsibility. The more we stray away from that and drift into needs for government enforced personal, societal, and racial equity, the more we become the dictatorship that you fear Trump would turn us into.

And yeah, if our Republic is structured in such a way as to require those personal values noted above characterized as "acting white" in order to succeed, and such "acting white" is racism, then, yeah, we have structural racism. And, yeah, there also exists a structural racism in black culture, or Asian culture. Guess it depends on which culture you wish to reside in--and on the law protecting your freedom to do so.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I put "act white" in quotes because it is the pejorative trope .....

plagiarism pete doesn't use quotation marks or understand the various and obvious uses of them apparently but boy, he can't wait to tell you how racist you are

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

plagiarism pete doesn't use quotation marks or understand the various and obvious uses of them apparently but boy, he can't wait to tell you how racist you are

I know, just think how unfortunate we all are to not have the advantage of being born black.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I know, just think how unfortunate we all are to not have the advantage of being born black.
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how come liberals flood their neighborhoods with abortion clinics, if they love blacks so much?

“we like blacks, as long as there aren’t too many, as long as they vote for us, and as long as they all
stay poor, not in line with me for the ferry to Nantucket”.
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[PaulS]

How about the R gov. heard on a hot mike saying "We love all fetus' until they are born and then we could care less. Let the Dems. worry about them"

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

how come liberals flood their neighborhoods with abortion clinics, if they love blacks so much?

“we like blacks, as long as there aren’t too many, as long as they vote for us, and as long as they all
stay poor, not in line with me for the ferry to Nantucket”.
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So who are you quoting there?
I thought the white wing quote was “we like blacks, as long as they behave, as long as they can’t vote, as long as they don’t complain that we get all the fruits of their labor and how dare one get elected President and vacation on the Vinyard”
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I know, just think how unfortunate we all are to not have the advantage of being born black.
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Just think how fortunate we all are of being born.

And in America.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

How about the R gov. heard on a hot mike saying "We love all fetus' until they are born and then we could care less. Let the Dems. worry about them"

except it’s obvious that republicans don’t believe that. we’ve discussed it, republicans are plenty charitable.

but it’s true that democrats want a lot of abortion clinics in urban areas. we know this, because demi data have out a lot of abortion clinics in urban areas. It’s not that complicated.

we know that the liberal solution to black poverty is more welfare checks. we know that congressional democrats HATED when trump celebrated lowest black unemployment ever, at his state of the union.

After decades of liberal control, fatherlessness is way up in our cities. liberals continue to mock
the things that would address that ( faith, nuclear family, traditional values).

your evidence that republicans don’t like people after they’re born, is what, exactly?

desperately howling at the moon.

republicans stop caring after the baby is born, all
kinds of evidence to support that pearl of wisdom.
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[PaulS]

Another quote that I found is "when attempting to refer to Blacks in a racist manor, make sure to use the word urban instead. We will know what you mean but then you won't be accused of being racist"

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Another quote that I found is "when attempting to refer to Blacks in a racist manor, make sure to use the word urban instead. We will know what you mean but then you won't be accused of being racist"

this is your wheelhouse....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Another quote that I found is "when attempting to refer to Blacks in a racist manor, make sure to use the word urban instead. We will know what you mean but then you won't be accused of being racist"

so it’s “racist” to say that blacks disproportionately live in urban areas?

it’s not factually correct?

you’re losing it.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so it’s “racist” to say that blacks disproportionately live in urban areas?

it’s not factually correct?

you’re losing it.
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linguist gymnastic coach Speaks remember Trump said go peacefully

So he could have influenced the Mob

[scottw]

if it's the republicans it is "armed gerrymandering"

if it is the democraps it is "peaceful redistricting"

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

linguist gymnastic coach Speaks remember Trump said go peacefully

So he could have influenced the Mob

so you also deny that blacks disproportionately live in urban areas, and that saying they do, is racist.

which makes about as much sense as saying that illegal immigration puts no strain on our economy, our schools, our hospitals, etc.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so you also deny that blacks disproportionately live in urban areas, and that saying they do, is racist.

which makes about as much sense as saying that illegal immigration puts no strain on our economy, our schools, our hospitals, etc.
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No, Most Black People Don’t Live in Poverty—or Inner Cities

Elizabeth Kneebone, a fellow at the Metropolitan Policy Program at the Brookings Institution, looked at numbers from the 2010 to 2014 American Community Survey and found that 39 percent of African Americans live in the suburbs, 36 percent live in cities, 15 percent live in small metropolitan areas, and 10 percent live in rural communities. That’s a noticeable shift from 2000, when 41 percent of African Americans lived in cities, 33 percent lived in suburbs, 15 percent lived in small metro areas, and 11 percent lived in rural communities.

There was a time when even more African Americans lived in urban areas: After the Great Migration, many blacks moved north for job opportunities. They were relegated to urban cores because they weren’t allowed to live anywhere else; policies such as redlining meant that they could only buy homes in certain neighborhoods, usually the places whites no longer wanted to live. In 1990, 57 percent of blacks lived in central cities, and 95 percent of blacks in the Northeast, Midwest, and West lived in metropolitan areas, according to Census data.

That has slowly been changing. Today, the majority—52 percent— of African Americans in the nation’s top 100 metro areas live in the suburbs of those regions, according to Kneebone. In 2000, the majority— 55 percent—of African Americans in the 100 largest metro areas lived in the big cities that anchor those regions.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

No, Most Black People Don’t Live in Poverty—or Inner Cities

That doesn't fit the narrative.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

No, Most Black People Don’t Live in Poverty—or Inner Cities

.

who are you responding to? because that's not what he said...

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

who are you responding to? because that's not what he said...

so you also deny that blacks disproportionately live in urban areas

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

No, Most Black People Don’t Live in Poverty—or Inner Cities

Elizabeth Kneebone, a fellow at the Metropolitan Policy Program at the Brookings Institution, looked at numbers from the 2010 to 2014 American Community Survey and found that 39 percent of African Americans live in the suburbs, 36 percent live in cities, 15 percent live in small metropolitan areas, and 10 percent live in rural communities. That’s a noticeable shift from 2000, when 41 percent of African Americans lived in cities, 33 percent lived in suburbs, 15 percent lived in small metro areas, and 11 percent lived in rural communities.

There was a time when even more African Americans lived in urban areas: After the Great Migration, many blacks moved north for job opportunities. They were relegated to urban cores because they weren’t allowed to live anywhere else; policies such as redlining meant that they could only buy homes in certain neighborhoods, usually the places whites no longer wanted to live. In 1990, 57 percent of blacks lived in central cities, and 95 percent of blacks in the Northeast, Midwest, and West lived in metropolitan areas, according to Census data.

That has slowly been changing. Today, the majority—52 percent— of African Americans in the nation’s top 100 metro areas live in the suburbs of those regions, according to Kneebone. In 2000, the majority— 55 percent—of African Americans in the 100 largest metro areas lived in the big cities that anchor those regions.

i didn't say "most". I said "disproportionately".

You idiots are going to deny that blacks disproportionately live in cities, simply because I said they do?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT.

so you also deny that blacks disproportionately live in urban areas

I don't know honestly, should be easy to Google ..but that ^^ was the statement you wrote "disproportionately" and he responded with "live in poverty" and a cut and paste...he was responding to something you didn't say...as usual

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i didn't say "most". I said "disproportionately".

You idiots are going to deny that blacks disproportionately live in cities, simply because I said they do?

WTF are you claiming?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

WTF are you claiming?

I think he's claiming you are an idiot...

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i didn't say "most". I said "disproportionately".

You idiots are going to deny that blacks disproportionately live in cities, simply because I said they do?

Originally Posted by Pete F.

WTF are you claiming?

Originally Posted by scottw

I think he's claiming you are an idiot...

Silly boy, big words have you confused?

Disproportionate is an adjective, not a noun.
disproportionate definition is to an extent that is too large or too small in comparison with something else.
"a tax cut would disproportionately benefit the rich"