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06-20-2018, 11:46 AM
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#61
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Originally Posted by zimmy
I don't know where you live in CT, but you in general have been making stuff up based on how you feel, not real data. I really hope it isn't true that you do a job that involves numbers. Maybe you would save some money moving to New Hampshire, but your case is a very specific case of a persone who "telecomutes." 250K is an absolute bs lie unless you are in the million plus salary range and based on the number skills and analysis you put out here, there is no way that is the case. That is unless someone gave you a small loan of a million dollars to start a business back int he 1980's. New Hampshire has taxes. They don't have income tax so they make up for it with other taxes. They have to pay for stuff. Their state university is almost identical, if not higher than UCONN. Stop misinterpreting or making things up than pretending I am off on this.
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"you in general have been making stuff up based on how you feel"
Not in the least. The averages you quoted are averages, they don't necessarily apply to any one individual. I know exactly what I pay in state income tax, and I have a great guess what we pay in sales tax.
I'm not making that up. You are desperately trying to make it un-true, because you can't accept the implications of the truth.
"your case is a very specific case of a persone who "telecomutes." "
Many white collar folks can telecommute these days. And while blue collar folks probably can't take their salary to SC, I'm not sue they can't take it to NH. I don't know.
"250K is an absolute bs lie unless you are in the million plus salary range "
I said 250k over 20 years. You showed that to get that (using your averages, which don't apply too me, my salary is above average), I wouldn't have to be anywhere near the million dollar range. And I'm not.
You keep going on and on about how here in CT, you'll have a house worth more. You have a crystal ball? You can see what real estate appreciation will be over the next 2 decades in CT and NH? There is a chance CT will completely collapse, as we are among the nation's leaders in population exodus every year. It's far from certain that CT real estate is a better investment than NH real estate.
"New Hampshire has taxes"
Of course they do. But it's a lot less, in total, than CT. It woul dbe hundreds of dollars a month for me. And more when the SALT deduction limits go into place, and more when my wife goes back to work, and more when UCONN's tuition goes up by 31% in the next 4 years. That is all fact. On top of that, I can make a great guess that CT will become more expensive relative to NH than it is today, because our debt will almost inevitably lead to massive tax hikes. When our tax base is shrinking, how else do you pay down $75 billion in debt, without tax hikes?
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06-20-2018, 11:59 AM
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#62
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Originally Posted by zimmy
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Your UNH estimate seems to include a few items (about 4k worth) that aren't in the UCONN estimate, and your UCONN estimate doesn't include this...
http://www.courant.com/education/hc-...216-story.html
And I was assuming a triple room at UNH, cheaper...but that won't get me to savings of 84k with those numbers, you're right...
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06-20-2018, 12:07 PM
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#63
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You can't compare UC to UNH. According to US news and world, UC is far, far better. (prob. bs of more state aid )
U.S. News Ranking
UC #56 in National Universities
UNH#103 in National Universities
25th - 75 percentile of SAT scores
UC 1210 - 1420
UNH 1090-1280
ACT Comp 25th - 75th percentile scores
UC 26-31
UNH 22-27
Average alumni starting salary
UC $54,400
UNH $48,500
Fall 2016 acceptance rate
UC 49%
UNH 76%
Tuition and Fees
UC
$36,948 (out-of-state)
$14,880 (in-state)
UNH
$32,637 (out-of-state)
$18,067 (in-state
Room and board
UC $12,514 (2017-18)
UNH $11,266 (2017-18)
Average total indebtedness of 2016 graduating class
UC $28,147
UNH $38,799
Student-faculty ratio
UC 16:1
UNH 18:1
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06-20-2018, 12:19 PM
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#64
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Originally Posted by PaulS
You can't compare UC to UNH. According to US news and world, UC is far, far better. (prob. bs of more state aid )
U.S. News Ranking
UC #56 in National Universities
UNH#103 in National Universities
25th - 75 percentile of SAT scores
UC 1210 - 1420
UNH 1090-1280
ACT Comp 25th - 75th percentile scores
UC 26-31
UNH 22-27
Average alumni starting salary
UC $54,400
UNH $48,500
Fall 2016 acceptance rate
UC 49%
UNH 76%
Tuition and Fees
UC
$36,948 (out-of-state)
$14,880 (in-state)
UNH
$32,637 (out-of-state)
$18,067 (in-state
Room and board
UC $12,514 (2017-18)
UNH $11,266 (2017-18)
Average total indebtedness of 2016 graduating class
UC $28,147
UNH $38,799
Student-faculty ratio
UC 16:1
UNH 18:1
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I graduated from UCONN. It was just OK when I was there. It's much, much better now.
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06-20-2018, 12:59 PM
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#65
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
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I'm not making that up. You are desperately trying to make it un-true, because you can't accept the implications of the truth.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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06-20-2018, 01:00 PM
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#66
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I graduated from UCONN. It was just OK when I was there. It's much, much better now.
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And what is Stan Laurels reply?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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06-20-2018, 01:08 PM
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#67
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
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I said 250k over 20 years. You showed that to get that (using your averages, which don't apply too me, my salary is above average), I wouldn't have to be anywhere near the million dollar range. And I'm not.
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You are right, your salary would only need to be about $270,000 a year to save you 250k over 20 years. Sorry for the hyperbole.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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06-20-2018, 01:09 PM
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#68
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
And what is Stan Laurels reply?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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I don't know, but I will guess...
Much better before he went there too? Was that a setup?
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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06-20-2018, 02:45 PM
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#69
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Canceled
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Location: vt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmy
I don't know, but I will guess...
Much better before he went there too? Was that a setup?
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I don’t know, Ollie
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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06-20-2018, 03:04 PM
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Can’t afford healthcare but fak yeah!!!! Spaceships !!! Pew pew pew !!!!!!
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06-21-2018, 08:04 AM
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#71
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Originally Posted by Nebe
Can’t afford healthcare but fak yeah!!!! Spaceships !!! Pew pew pew !!!!!!
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We are 20 Effing Trillion in Debt. Mostly as a result of Boomers. Your kid and my kid are going to pick up that tab.
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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06-21-2018, 05:07 PM
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#72
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Originally Posted by JohnR
We are 20 Effing Trillion in Debt. Mostly as a result of Boomers. Your kid and my kid are going to pick up that tab.
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Next year Trump is just going to declare bankruptcy and negotiate our debt. Mark my words. He's a master at this.
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06-21-2018, 06:25 PM
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#73
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Originally Posted by spence
Next year Trump is just going to declare bankruptcy and negotiate our debt. Mark my words. He's a master at this.
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At the rate we are going - someone will. And when that happens, SHTF.
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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08-10-2018, 06:08 PM
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#75
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Originally Posted by JohnR
At the rate we are going - someone will. And when that happens, SHTF.
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borrowing money to fund things you were supposed to fund but didn't...that's how it works
Chicago Considering Plan To Borrow $10 Billion To Fund Pension Liabilities
August 10, 2018 at 12:08 pm
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08-11-2018, 08:42 AM
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#76
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Originally Posted by spence
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'Spose you don't remember us talking about this in 2007
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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08-11-2018, 08:51 AM
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#77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
'Spose you don't remember us talking about this in 2007
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Nope
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08-11-2018, 09:00 AM
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#78
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR View Post
'Spose you don't remember us talking about this in 2007
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Originally Posted by spence
Nope
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he has an extremely selective memory.....
says "I don't recall"...more than Hillary
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