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Old 06-20-2018, 11:46 AM   #61
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I don't know where you live in CT, but you in general have been making stuff up based on how you feel, not real data. I really hope it isn't true that you do a job that involves numbers. Maybe you would save some money moving to New Hampshire, but your case is a very specific case of a persone who "telecomutes." 250K is an absolute bs lie unless you are in the million plus salary range and based on the number skills and analysis you put out here, there is no way that is the case. That is unless someone gave you a small loan of a million dollars to start a business back int he 1980's. New Hampshire has taxes. They don't have income tax so they make up for it with other taxes. They have to pay for stuff. Their state university is almost identical, if not higher than UCONN. Stop misinterpreting or making things up than pretending I am off on this.
"you in general have been making stuff up based on how you feel"

Not in the least. The averages you quoted are averages, they don't necessarily apply to any one individual. I know exactly what I pay in state income tax, and I have a great guess what we pay in sales tax.

I'm not making that up. You are desperately trying to make it un-true, because you can't accept the implications of the truth.

"your case is a very specific case of a persone who "telecomutes." "

Many white collar folks can telecommute these days. And while blue collar folks probably can't take their salary to SC, I'm not sue they can't take it to NH. I don't know.

"250K is an absolute bs lie unless you are in the million plus salary range "

I said 250k over 20 years. You showed that to get that (using your averages, which don't apply too me, my salary is above average), I wouldn't have to be anywhere near the million dollar range. And I'm not.

You keep going on and on about how here in CT, you'll have a house worth more. You have a crystal ball? You can see what real estate appreciation will be over the next 2 decades in CT and NH? There is a chance CT will completely collapse, as we are among the nation's leaders in population exodus every year. It's far from certain that CT real estate is a better investment than NH real estate.

"New Hampshire has taxes"

Of course they do. But it's a lot less, in total, than CT. It woul dbe hundreds of dollars a month for me. And more when the SALT deduction limits go into place, and more when my wife goes back to work, and more when UCONN's tuition goes up by 31% in the next 4 years. That is all fact. On top of that, I can make a great guess that CT will become more expensive relative to NH than it is today, because our debt will almost inevitably lead to massive tax hikes. When our tax base is shrinking, how else do you pay down $75 billion in debt, without tax hikes?
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Old 06-20-2018, 11:59 AM   #62
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I know there is no chance of this, but your numbers are wrong. You don't have room AND board. After all tuition room and board and fees:

UNH next year Cost of Attendance $33,750
https://www.unh.edu/financialaid/costs

UCONN 2018-2019
Subtotal Direct Costs (Plus Waivable Fees) $31,812
http://admissions.uconn.edu/cost-aid/tuition
Your UNH estimate seems to include a few items (about 4k worth) that aren't in the UCONN estimate, and your UCONN estimate doesn't include this...

http://www.courant.com/education/hc-...216-story.html

And I was assuming a triple room at UNH, cheaper...but that won't get me to savings of 84k with those numbers, you're right...
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Old 06-20-2018, 12:07 PM   #63
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You can't compare UC to UNH. According to US news and world, UC is far, far better. (prob. bs of more state aid )

U.S. News Ranking
UC #56 in National Universities
UNH#103 in National Universities

25th - 75 percentile of SAT scores
UC 1210 - 1420
UNH 1090-1280

ACT Comp 25th - 75th percentile scores
UC 26-31
UNH 22-27
Average alumni starting salary
UC $54,400
UNH $48,500

Fall 2016 acceptance rate
UC 49%
UNH 76%


Tuition and Fees
UC
$36,948 (out-of-state)
$14,880 (in-state)

UNH
$32,637 (out-of-state)
$18,067 (in-state


Room and board
UC $12,514 (2017-18)
UNH $11,266 (2017-18)


Average total indebtedness of 2016 graduating class
UC $28,147
UNH $38,799


Student-faculty ratio
UC 16:1
UNH 18:1
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Old 06-20-2018, 12:19 PM   #64
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You can't compare UC to UNH. According to US news and world, UC is far, far better. (prob. bs of more state aid )

U.S. News Ranking
UC #56 in National Universities
UNH#103 in National Universities

25th - 75 percentile of SAT scores
UC 1210 - 1420
UNH 1090-1280

ACT Comp 25th - 75th percentile scores
UC 26-31
UNH 22-27
Average alumni starting salary
UC $54,400
UNH $48,500

Fall 2016 acceptance rate
UC 49%
UNH 76%


Tuition and Fees
UC
$36,948 (out-of-state)
$14,880 (in-state)

UNH
$32,637 (out-of-state)
$18,067 (in-state


Room and board
UC $12,514 (2017-18)
UNH $11,266 (2017-18)


Average total indebtedness of 2016 graduating class
UC $28,147
UNH $38,799


Student-faculty ratio
UC 16:1
UNH 18:1
I graduated from UCONN. It was just OK when I was there. It's much, much better now.
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Old 06-20-2018, 12:59 PM   #65
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I'm not making that up. You are desperately trying to make it un-true, because you can't accept the implications of the truth.

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Old 06-20-2018, 01:00 PM   #66
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I graduated from UCONN. It was just OK when I was there. It's much, much better now.
And what is Stan Laurels reply?
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I said 250k over 20 years. You showed that to get that (using your averages, which don't apply too me, my salary is above average), I wouldn't have to be anywhere near the million dollar range. And I'm not.
You are right, your salary would only need to be about $270,000 a year to save you 250k over 20 years. Sorry for the hyperbole.

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Old 06-20-2018, 01:09 PM   #68
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And what is Stan Laurels reply?
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I don't know, but I will guess...
Much better before he went there too? Was that a setup?

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Old 06-20-2018, 02:45 PM   #69
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Much better before he went there too? Was that a setup?
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Can’t afford healthcare but fak yeah!!!! Spaceships !!! Pew pew pew !!!!!!
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We are 20 Effing Trillion in Debt. Mostly as a result of Boomers. Your kid and my kid are going to pick up that tab.

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We are 20 Effing Trillion in Debt. Mostly as a result of Boomers. Your kid and my kid are going to pick up that tab.
Next year Trump is just going to declare bankruptcy and negotiate our debt. Mark my words. He's a master at this.
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At the rate we are going - someone will. And when that happens, SHTF.

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Amazing stat...

25% of traceable low Earth orbit debris is from a single Chinese anti-satellite weapon test in 2007.

https://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/O...t_space_debris
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At the rate we are going - someone will. And when that happens, SHTF.
borrowing money to fund things you were supposed to fund but didn't...that's how it works



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25% of traceable low Earth orbit debris is from a single Chinese anti-satellite weapon test in 2007.

https://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/O...t_space_debris

'Spose you don't remember us talking about this in 2007

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he has an extremely selective memory.....

says "I don't recall"...more than Hillary
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