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Old 03-26-2019, 12:59 PM   #61
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He was briefed as a candidate that Russia was trying to influence the election yet he consistently and publicly claimed otherwise, likely because he knew it would benefit his chances or perhaps other areas of compromise. He was briefed as President that Russia the same and yet stood on stage with Putin and claimed otherwise for what reason we don't know. It's hard to fathom a legitimate reason.

I had thought the Mueller report was looking into Russian influence over Trump, probably one of the most concerning issues, yet Barr made zero mention in his summary.

Why?
You have not given any evidence that there was Russian traitorous influence over Trump. Why should Barr mention something that was not proven to exist. Nor have you pointed out where Trump actually asked Russia for help. Referring to Trump's sarcastic comment on national TV is really weak.
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Old 03-26-2019, 01:53 PM   #62
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You have not given any evidence that there was Russian traitorous influence over Trump. Why should Barr mention something that was not proven to exist. Nor have you pointed out where Trump actually asked Russia for help. Referring to Trump's sarcastic comment on national TV is really weak.
We know for a fact that Trump's personal business ties to Russian money are very deep. We also know they lied about very recent business dealings repeatedly. This was a major consideration heading into the investigation.

If there was found to be no influence you would assume this would be a major finding.
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Old 03-26-2019, 02:20 PM   #63
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We know for a fact that Trump's personal business ties to Russian money are very deep. We also know they lied about very recent business dealings repeatedly. This was a major consideration heading into the investigation.

If there was found to be no influence you would assume this would be a major finding.
You still have not pointed out any traitorous influence that the Russian government had over Trump.
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Old 03-26-2019, 03:29 PM   #64
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You still have not pointed out any traitorous influence that the Russian government had over Trump.
it "appears" that there was......
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:36 PM   #65
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I think Brazile gave the campaign maybe two questions, it's not ethical certainly but not worth freaking out over.

Hillary didn't delete any emails either. Her SysAdmin forgot to purge them before the investigation even started and mistakenly did it later when they should have been preserved. FBI investigation came up clean.

How you think his has parity with a US President actively covering up illegal election meddling by an adversary is beyond me.
When did that happen Jeff? They should launch an investigation.
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spence is freakin'.....
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Old 03-27-2019, 08:04 AM   #67
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You still have not pointed out any traitorous influence that the Russian government had over Trump.
Try these on for size

1, Why so many people lied to investigators about their communications with Russian officials (including former Attorney General Jeff Sessions and former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, to name two prominent examples).

2. Why Trump publicly lied about his negotiations with Russia to build a Trump Tower in Moscow during the campaign.

3. Why Trump is so solicitous of Putin in contrast to his antagonistic approach to American allies such as Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Angela Merkel and Macron.

4. Why Trump tried to lift sanctions on Russia in the wake of the public announcement that America’s electoral process had been attacked by the Russians.

5.Why Trump’s campaign chair, Paul Manafort, shared internal polling data with a suspected Russian asset.

6.Why Trump confiscated his interpreter’s notes from a private meeting with Putin.

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Try these on for size

1, Why so many people lied to investigators about their communications with Russian officials (including former Attorney General Jeff Sessions and former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, to name two prominent examples).

2. Why Trump publicly lied about his negotiations with Russia to build a Trump Tower in Moscow during the campaign.

3. Why Trump is so solicitous of Putin in contrast to his antagonistic approach to American allies such as Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Angela Merkel and Macron.

4. Why Trump tried to lift sanctions on Russia in the wake of the public announcement that America’s electoral process had been attacked by the Russians.

5.Why Trump’s campaign chair, Paul Manafort, shared internal polling data with a suspected Russian asset.

6.Why Trump confiscated his interpreter’s notes from a private meeting with Putin.
You might want to share these revelations with the FBI PeteF. If they knew about such activity they would launch an investigation. You have exposed quite the story here.
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Old 03-27-2019, 10:13 AM   #69
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You might want to share these revelations with the FBI PeteF. If they knew about such activity they would launch an investigation. You have exposed quite the story here.
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Exactly. These things were investigated and Mueller came to the conclusion that there was no conspiracy to influence the election. The six points Pete enumerated were neither illegal nor verified to be conspiratorial. Everything the anti-Trumpers kept coming up with as proof was some form of innuendo or circumstantial "evidence" that could mean many things but were not verified to be conspiratorial.
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