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06-26-2018, 07:56 AM
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Just another lovely Trump supporter and I am sure it has nothing to do with his rhetoric.
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/394...in-viral-video
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06-26-2018, 08:33 AM
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Perfect example of party unity here. Two guys,we will call them Paul and Pete. They have an agenda to make the president look bad at any cost. They don't care if one posts the worst person acting like a fool because they don't read anything already posted. Look away Dixieland.
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06-26-2018, 09:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Perfect example of party unity here. Two guys,we will call them Paul and Pete. They have an agenda to make the president look bad at any cost. They don't care if one posts the worst person acting like a fool because they don't read anything already posted. Look away Dixieland.
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As I said - nothing to add except criticizing other people's posts. I'm sure John will give you grandmother moderator status here if you want.
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06-26-2018, 10:21 AM
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Even as the court upheld the ban, chief justice John Roberts criticised Trump, and emphasised the importance of the principle of religious non-discrimination in US history.
“The president of the United States possesses an extraordinary power to speak to his fellow citizens and on their behalf,” Roberts wrote. “Our presidents have frequently used that power to espouse the principles of religious freedom and tolerance on which this nation was founded.”
Roberts pointed out that George W Bush defended “the true faith of Islam” after the September 11 attacks and said America is “a great country because we share the same values of respect and dignity and human worth”.
“Yet it cannot be denied,” Roberts wrote, “that the federal government and the presidents who have carried its laws into effect have – from the nation’s earliest days – performed unevenly in living up to those inspiring words.”
What’s happening in this country is not good.
Talking about the issues is one thing, calling people names and using alternative facts is quite different
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06-26-2018, 10:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
Even as the court upheld the ban
Talking about the issues is one thing
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you left out the headline....
US supreme court upholds Trump's travel ban
Blow to anti-discrimination advocates as justices rule 5-4 in favor of Trump administration after months of legal battles
talk about taking selective quotes to create a narrative...geeze....
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06-26-2018, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
you left out the headline....
US supreme court upholds Trump's travel ban
Blow to anti-discrimination advocates as justices rule 5-4 in favor of Trump administration after months of legal battles
talk about taking selective quotes to create a narrative...geeze....
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What did the travel ban have to do with this discussion?
John Roberts pointed comment regarding Trumps leadership does
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06-26-2018, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
What did the travel ban have to do with this discussion?
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I wondered that when you linked the article
oh that's right, this thread is about leftist's hysteria
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06-26-2018, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
John Roberts pointed comment regarding Trumps leadership does
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which one?
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06-27-2018, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
John Roberts pointed comment regarding Trumps leadership does
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while we wait for your clarification....here are Justice Kennedy's pointed comments regarding the leadership of the "progressive" California Legislature...
"The California Legislature included in its official history the congratulatory statement that the Act was part of California’s legacy of “forward thinking.” App. 38–39. But it is not forward thinking to force individuals to “be an instrument for fostering public adherence to an ideological point of view [they] fin[d] unacceptable.” Wooley v. Maynard, 430 U. S. 705, 715 (1977). It is forward thinking to begin by reading the First Amendment as ratified in 1791; to understand the history of authoritarian government as the Founders then knew it; to confirm that history since then shows how relentless authoritarian regimes are in their attempts to stifle free speech; and to carry those lessons onward as we seek to preserve and teach the necessity of freedom of speech for the generations to come. Governments must not be allowed to force persons to express a message contrary to their deepest convictions. Freedom of speech secures freedom of thought and belief. This law imperils those liberties."
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06-26-2018, 12:30 PM
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
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06-26-2018, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
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Never said he didn't.
Now Maxine Waters has a couple under her belt, are the same people that are disgusted with Trump, disgusted with her as well? Or Do 2 wrongs make a right?
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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06-26-2018, 01:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Now Maxine Waters has a couple under her belt, are the same people that are disgusted with Trump, disgusted with her as well? Or Do 2 wrongs make a right?
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I don't know exactly what she said but I have an idea - it was stupid. Dem. leadership is calling her out for it.
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06-26-2018, 01:26 PM
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Quote:
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Never said he didn't.
Now Maxine Waters has a couple under her belt, are the same people that are disgusted with Trump, disgusted with her as well? Or Do 2 wrongs make a right?
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She's not President.
Sorry but I think there might be a higher standard.
Just like I think we should have a higher standard to be one of a hundred Senators than one of 435 representatives all representing the 325 million people who live in the USA.
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06-26-2018, 02:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
She's not President.
Sorry but I think there might be a higher standard.
Just like I think we should have a higher standard to be one of a hundred Senators than one of 435 representatives all representing the 325 million people who live in the USA.
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Neither was Donald Trump in the video. Those were before He was elected.
So are you saying that Maxine Waters gets a pass because she's not president? Wouldn't that mean that trump should get the same pass because he wasn't President at that time? I mean Waters is a Congresswoman saying those things, Trump was just a civilian.
Personally, i agree that they should ALL be held to a higher standard. And we have ourselves to blame because we attack the good and leave ourselves the crap to pick through.
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06-26-2018, 02:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Neither was Donald Trump in the video. Those were before He was elected.
So are you saying that Maxine Waters gets a pass because she's not president? Wouldn't that mean that trump should get the same pass because he wasn't President at that time? I mean Waters is a Congresswoman saying those things, Trump was just a civilian.
Personally, i agree that they should ALL be held to a higher standard. And we have ourselves to blame because we attack the good and leave ourselves the crap to pick through.
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How about his latest then
https://youtu.be/NjPU3J2oEns
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06-26-2018, 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
So are you saying that Maxine Waters gets a pass because she's not president? Wouldn't that mean that trump should get the same pass because he wasn't President at that time? I mean Waters is a Congresswoman saying those things, Trump was just a civilian.
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Her remark wasn't smart but it doesn't even register on the Trump scale.
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06-26-2018, 12:36 PM
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
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06-26-2018, 12:41 PM
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Can we agree that both sides fan the flames to stir their base??
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06-26-2018, 12:52 PM
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Can we agree that both sides fan the flames to stir their base??
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I most certainly can
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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06-26-2018, 01:50 PM
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Can we agree that both sides fan the flames to stir their base??
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Ah the old everybody does it argument. There's no parity here, not even close.
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06-26-2018, 02:06 PM
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There's no parity here, not even close.
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MAKES SENSE COMING FROM A BLIND PARTISAN
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06-27-2018, 06:36 AM
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How have we gotten along with no travel Ban... Just more of the same why isn't Mexico on the list we are getting invaded are we not??
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06-27-2018, 07:10 AM
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How have we gotten along with no travel Ban...
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what travel ban?
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06-26-2018, 02:04 PM
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Can we agree that both sides fan the flames to stir their base??
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nope...the party of LOVE is only interested in spreading good intentions...they'd never stoop that low...and....they'd have to get off their high horse...but if they did...it would be justified...obviously
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06-26-2018, 02:36 PM
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Just being like Jeb Bush didn’t work
https://usat.ly/2yI8eYc
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06-26-2018, 05:16 PM
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This thread demonstrates how blind all parties become when it comes to shouldering the blame. For two of the biggest blowhards to portray a certain dope as a common denominator in the Republican Party is a true indicator of their parity hopes. Not many here defend Trump but they will at least go to bat for him when he does something good for the country. The same folks criticize him when he makes another of his errors. Love watching the 4 year meltdown the fools are enduring. Almost as entertaining as Trump in a car crash way.
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06-27-2018, 12:15 PM
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It's statements like Wayne's that make me wonder about just how informed he could be. Where are all the rights groups protesting this type of treatment? They had no problem making a big stink out of gays being refused service...
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06-27-2018, 04:20 PM
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Even Trumps spreading the lie
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She has just called for harm to supporters, of which there are many, of the Make America Great Again movement.
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06-28-2018, 08:44 AM
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Love it. Aunt Esther does something stupid and all the left can say is "but Trump..."
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06-30-2018, 01:00 PM
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While we all rant about immigration, ignoring the cause, and not trying to solve the problems (Trump is threatening to eliminate aid if they don’t stop the flow)
Perhaps we should look at the history of the USA and Central America
https://medium.com/s/story/timeline-...a-a9bea9ebc148
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