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View Poll Results: Who will you vote for?
John Kerry 15 39.47%
Dr. Dean 1 2.63%
Gen. Clark 1 2.63%
John Edwards 2 5.26%
All Dem's are hippies and shouldn't vote :-) 19 50.00%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-12-2004, 08:16 PM   #1
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not really hearing anything yet
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Old 02-12-2004, 08:23 PM   #2
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Al Sharpton huh?? Now that would be interesting. You think we're bankrupt now! The evening news would have number 1 ratings again, instead of the Simpsons.
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Old 02-12-2004, 09:11 PM   #3
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thanks wee. interesting spin.

how much is fact ?

seriously. i am interested in hearing more
BW - I honestly don't know, haven't really been keeping up. I'm just passing on what was passed to me.

I figure there has to be some element of truth if there are enough people really angry about Kerry's Vietnam thing. Where there's smoke, there's fire, I guess.

As far as Vietnam goes, this was before my time, I wasn't there to experience it firsthand, so, I have really no right to talk about it or have an opinion on it.

I'm not going to vote for Kerry because of his stance on certain issues, that's all I gotta say.

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just the small little fact that he promotes and votes for every bill that is designed to steal your and my money and give it to someone else......
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Senator John Forbes Kerry voted YES.

Vote on final passage of a bill providing funds for housing and veterans programs. It also contains funding for 17 independent agencies.

HR 2684: An original bill making appropriations for the Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development, and for sundry independent agencies, boards, commissions, corporations and offices for the fiscal year ending Sept. 30, 2000.

Vote on final passage of a bill that provides $99.5 billion for the housing and veterans programs, as well as other agencies, in Fiscal Year 2000. $44.3 billion would be provided for the department of Veterans Affairs [VA] and $25.9 billion for the department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD]. In addition, the package includes $13.6 billion for NASA, $7.6 billion for the Environmental Protection Agency [EPA] and $3.3 billion for the Federal Emergency Management Agency [FEMA]. Among other provisions, the bill also provides $434 million for national volunteer and community service programs [including AmeriCorps], $9 million more than last year.
Bill sponsored by Walsh, R-NY
(Conference Report adopted 93-5 on 10/15/99)

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Senator John Forbes Kerry voted NO.

Kill a proposal to terminate the advanced solid rocket motor project.

HR 2491 (Fiscal 1994 VA & HUD Appropraitions);
Motion to Table;
9/22/93

Outcome: Passed 53-47

Congressional Quarterly Number: 1993 - S275
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Senator John Forbes Kerry voted YES.

Vote to adopt the conference report of a bill to provide $1 billion in crop insurance funding over five years, provide $600 million for agriculture research, and $818 million over five years to restore food stamp benefits to elderly and disabled legal immigrants.

S 1150: Agricultural Research, Extension, and Education Reform Act of 1997

Vote to adopt the conference report of a bill to provide $1 billion in crop insurance funding over five years, $600 million for agriculture research in food safety, genetic engineering and crop yields, and $818 million over five years to restore food stamp benefits to children under 18, and elderly and disabled legal immigrants who were in the country when the 1996 welfare reform law passed [Aug. 22, 1996].
Bill introduced by Lugar, R-IN.
(Conference Report adopted 92-8 on 5/12/98)
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Old 02-13-2004, 09:23 AM   #5
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Senator John Forbes Kerry voted YES.

Vote to allow consideration of an amendment to provide the bill's $1.5 billion for low-income Medicare recipient premium assistance through the Medicaid program, and not the bill's state block grant program.

S 947: The Balanced Budget Act of 1997 [Budget Reconciliation - Spending]

Vote on a procedural motion to waive the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 to allow consideration of an amendment that would provide the $1.5 billion included in the bill to assist low-income Medicare beneficiaries with their Medicare Part B premiums through expansion of the Medicaid program, rather than through the state block grant program included in the bill.
Amendment offered by Specter, R-PA.
(Motion to waive the Budget Act rejected 52-48 on 6/25/97 [3/5ths vote required])
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Senator John Forbes Kerry voted YES.

Vote to allow consideration of an amendment to reinstate food stamps for the children of legal immigrants.

S 947: The Balanced Budget Act of 1997 [Budget Reconciliation - Spending]

Vote on a procedural motion to waive the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 to allow for consideration of an amendment to provide food stamps for the children of legal immigrants to the U.S. [HR 3734, 1996's welfare reform law, ended food stamp eligibility for the children of legal immigrants.]
Amendment offered by Durbin, D-IL.
(Motion to waive the Budget Act rejected 48-52 on 6/25/97 [3/5ths vote required])

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Senator John Forbes Kerry voted NO.

Vote to table an amendment to delete a program for school breakfast program startups.

S 1956: The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act

Vote on a motion to table, or kill, an amendment that would delete the provisions in the bill that eliminate the School Breakfast Startup and Expansion Program, a program that makes startup grants for initiating or expanding school breakfast or summer food programs.
Lugar, R-IN, motion to table Harkin, D-IA, amendment.
(Tabling motion agreed to 56-43 on 7/23/96)

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Non-Cash Vouchers



Bill Number: S 1956
Issue: Welfare and Poverty Issues
Date: 07/19/1996
Sponsor: Motion introduced by Breaux, D-LA.


Roll Call Number: 0205
Motion to waive rejected; 3/5ths vote required
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Senator John Forbes Kerry voted YES.

Vote on a procedural motion to allow consideration of an amendment to allow states to use block grant funds to provide non-cash vouchers to families that have used up their welfare eligibility.

S 1956: The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act

Vote on a procedural motion to waive the Budget Act of 1974 to allow consideration of an amendment that would allow states to use federal block grant funds to provide non-cash vouchers to families that have used
up their five years of eligibility for cash assistance, based on the state's determination of the needs of the family's children. If a state implemented a welfare assistance time limit less than the five years provided for in the bill, the amendment would require the state to provide the non-cash vouchers, based on the state's determination of the needs of the family's children.
Motion introduced by Breaux, D-LA.
(Motion to waive rejected 51-47 on 7/19/96; 3/5ths vote required)
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Old 02-13-2004, 09:27 AM   #6
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thanks

man he acts like a real tax and spender.

instituting and/or voting for all these free handouts


oh wait a minute i am confused

is he a democrat or a republican ?

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Old 02-13-2004, 09:29 AM   #7
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Senator John Forbes Kerry voted YES.

Vote to table, or kill, an amendment to repeal the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise [DBE] Program, which requires no less than 10% of highway construction projects funded by the federal government to be contracted to 'disadvantaged business enterprises'. Disadvantaged business enterprises are defined as those owned and controlled by racial minorities and women.

S 1173: Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency Act [ISTEA]

Vote to table, or kill, an amendment to a substitute amendment to repeal the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise [DBE] Program, which requires no less than 10% of highway construction projects funded by the federal government to be contracted to 'disadvantaged business enterprises'. Disadvantaged business enterprises are defined as those owned and controlled by racial minorities and women. The DBE Program would be replaced by the 'Emerging Business Enterprise Program', which would require states, among other things, to conduct general outreach programs to enable emerging businesses to compete for federal highway contracts, to provide targeted outreach to and recruitment of women and minority-owned emerging businesses, and to provide technical assistance.
Tabling motion introduced by Chafee, R-RI; amendment introduced by McConnell, R-KY.
(Tabling motion passed 58-37 on 3/6/98)
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Senator John Forbes Kerry voted YES.

Pass a bill to establish a loan guarantee program for small businesses to assist them in dealing with Year 2000 computer problems.

S 314: Small Business Year 2000 Readiness Act

Vote to pass a bill to establish a loan guarantee program for small businesses to assist them in dealing with Year 200 computer programs. The program would be terminated on December 31, 2000.
Bill introduced by Bond, R-MO.
(Bill passed 99-0 on 3/2/99)
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Senator John Forbes Kerry voted YES.

Vote to table an amendment eliminating funding for the National Endowment for the Arts.

HR 2466: Department of the Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations Act,2000

Vote to table or kill an amendment that would eliminate funding for the National Endowment for the Arts.
Tabling motion introduced by Gorton, R-WA, Amendment introduced by Smith, I-NH, Bill introduced by Regula, R-OH
(Tabling motion passed 80-16 on 8/5/99)
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I could go on ad nauseum, but I think you get the idea.....
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Old 02-13-2004, 09:32 AM   #8
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is he a democrat or a republican ?

As if there is any difference?

VOTE LIBERTARIAN

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Personal Responsibility Sets Us Free
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