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Old 11-08-2005, 02:39 PM   #61
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:52 PM   #62
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I'm only 24 so I barely had my drivers licence when the last "big run happened"

In my experience this "fall run" you guys speak of I have yet to see. THe past five years I have caught more fish in May and June than September and October. Although I generally get larger fish in the Fall.

The few times I did get offshore this year I saw a tremendous amount of bait. The Tuna we caught had hundreds upon hundreds of Sand Eels in their stomach. And the best Blue Fishing I have seen in years was 35 miles off shore, with every blue approaching 15 lbs (its too bad we weren't targeting them)

I guess I'm confused?

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Old 11-08-2005, 03:37 PM   #63
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This is the same argument you guys have every year. I can set my clock by this stuff ... just so you know... you guys will be arguing about the arrival of herring Feb 22nd and the arrival of the Bass march 19th. We all know what's going to happen and it's going to be the same as every year.

Yes some people will catch some nice fish between now and 12/1. Yes we will all be out there hoping that the run has been held up, but it hasn't. on 10/31 there was a big pod of big fish working the elizabeths and the southeast shore of mass, I know of 6 fish caught that night ranging from 27 up to 40 pounds. Those are the fish you guys are talking about and I was all set to be begin chasing them. Then came this, I think it blew the pod of fish apart and now they are likely roaming the rim of the ledges making their way south and that's why the boat guys are taking fish right now. We just might see a curtain call In Newport or Narragansett or SoCo. I am not by any means an expert on the fall run, when #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& and Piemma and all you other guys were slaying fish in the 80's I was making macaroni necklaces in grade school but I do fish hard and I do pay attention and I can recognize patterns. High winds can ruin the fall run and this year has seen nothing but. Boy I hope I'm wrong about this but....

anyway... I'll be out there at 4:00am tomorrow praying.

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Old 11-08-2005, 03:56 PM   #64
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This is the same argument you guys have every year. I can set my clock by this stuff ... just so you know... you guys will be arguing about the arrival of herring Feb 22nd and the arrival of the Bass march 19th. We all know what's going to happen and it's going to be the same as every year.

Yes some people will catch some nice fish between now and 12/1. Yes we will all be out there hoping that the run has been held up, but it hasn't. on 10/31 there was a big pod of big fish working the elizabeths and the southeast shore of mass, I know of 6 fish caught that night ranging from 27 up to 40 pounds. Those are the fish you guys are talking about and I was all set to be begin chasing them. Then came this, I think it blew the pod of fish apart and now they are likely roaming the rim of the ledges making their way south and that's why the boat guys are taking fish right now. We just might see a curtain call In Newport or Narragansett or SoCo. I am not by any means an expert on the fall run, when #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& and Piemma and all you other guys were slaying fish in the 80's I was making macaroni necklaces in grade school but I do fish hard and I do pay attention and I can recognize patterns. High winds can ruin the fall run and this year has seen nothing but. Boy I hope I'm wrong about this but....

anyway... I'll be out there at 4:00am tomorrow praying.
The boat guys that are still out there are slaying them of blocks southwest side in 60ft of water. The winds killed us and the line storms...... I can say this with certainty..the fish will be back in may
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:08 PM   #65
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:28 PM   #66
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I didn't fish much this season at all...so I won't give my opinion on this seasons' take....

However ...

Someone stated "food" being an important factor.....

I agree, but not in the way it was posted on this thread.
I've been fishing for a LONG time....what DON'T I see now that I remember seeing eons ago?....UNBELIEVABLE amounts of bait. Pogies were EVERYWHERE!!....Squid were so far up the bay, the bridge didn't need lights. Does that still happen?...Why did their pattern change? Are they still as abundant? Will it ever be like it was....
NEVER!!...get that into your thick skulls.
We all have our own opinions on why things changed. Let's look at some of the variables.
Weather = We always had it and always will
Water Quality = It's been better, but also been worse
Baitfish = (I'm no bait-erologist, but we definately don't have as much as we used to)
Over-Fishing = Forgive me, but the commercial fisheries take a heavy hit on this one. They're technology is slightly better. The demand is always increasing. They will never be regulated enough to turn things around...only slow things down.
The ecology has changed...learn to deal with it.

Human GREED has impacted the oceans. You have to settle for whatever the particular season brings you for whatever reason. You want to catch more fish, FISH MORE!!...You want to catch BIGGER fish, ..say BIGGER prayers
You want to see a BIG rebound with some recreational bag limits?? YOUR NUTZ!
If EVERYONE <recs/comms> stopped fishing, it would still take numerous years for fish to return to their HEALTHY stocks.

Is the Fall Run over?...if you stopped fishing, yes...it is.
If you don't want to spend the time to find out for yourself and your just waiting for someone to tell you.....yes, it's over.

....what was the question again?....sorry
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:29 PM   #67
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Something to think about:

A few new reports have come in.

A good number of 25 to 50# fish caught over the past 2 days in 40+ feet of water within a mile of the mainland in RI in several spots. Way more then just a few random fish. Imagine if we had bait close to shore.

Regardless, I know where I'll be the next few days and it's not on a boat.
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:35 PM   #68
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The "Fall Run" is a myth made up by tackle shops and magazines
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:36 PM   #69
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You are right. That's what makes us surf fishermen. It's in our blood. There is no tougher thing to do in November or for that matter in July. You climb the rocks. You loose sleep. You freeze till your hands are numb and you are wet most of the time. And for what? A big fish with 7 stripes on her
God I love it so.

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Old 11-08-2005, 04:38 PM   #70
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Interesting. We got the same report while on the island except we heard 55 feet of water.

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Something to think about:

A few new reports have come in.

A good number of 25 to 50# fish caught over the past 2 days in 40+ feet of water within a mile of the mainland in RI in several spots. Way more then just a few random fish. Imagine if we had bait close to shore.

Regardless, I know where I'll be the next few days and it's not on a boat.

No boat, back in the suds.
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:43 PM   #71
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Heh, you should have heard the disappointment in the voices of the people I talked to this morning (before I heard the big fish report, although the locations are not going to be disclosed).

You want 12" bass and some blues? Come on down!
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:52 PM   #72
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Imagine if we had bait close to shore
I've been imagining ALL season...that was about all I could do...


Look for a mackerel pattern to work in November...silver-side patterns should also produce/blackChrOme. .., ...dunkn' chunkn' is also killA at the end of the season, aLwWays bring 2R oddS...hit the skinnies in the weewee hours....and most importantly, ask the "Sharpies" on this site where to go. They always know where the fish were....

...back to the 60 grit

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Old 11-08-2005, 05:08 PM   #73
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IMO, we never even had a fall run. just small pulses of fish. sad huh.
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:16 PM   #74
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Great summary of what we all are saying. The g d wind killed this Fall run. I remember it happening in 91 or 92 when "they went by on the outside".
As Canalman said "you guys will be arguing about the arrival of herring Feb 22nd and the arrival of the Bass march 19th." They will be back. In 90 days we will be counting the days till the first school fish.
I gotta tell ya, Bryan and I are up around 120 to 130 nights for this season and I am tired. My gear is tired. My truck is tired. My Korkers have had every stud replaced 5 times. I have gone thru 2 bags of 60 studs so far. 7000 yards of line and probably 500 eels and lost 100+ plugs. Almost time to head for the "bat cave" and spin a bunch of AYC.

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This is the same argument you guys have every year. I can set my clock by this stuff ... just so you know... you guys will be arguing about the arrival of herring Feb 22nd and the arrival of the Bass march 19th. We all know what's going to happen and it's going to be the same as every year.

Yes some people will catch some nice fish between now and 12/1. Yes we will all be out there hoping that the run has been held up, but it hasn't. on 10/31 there was a big pod of big fish working the elizabeths and the southeast shore of mass, I know of 6 fish caught that night ranging from 27 up to 40 pounds. Those are the fish you guys are talking about and I was all set to be begin chasing them. Then came this, I think it blew the pod of fish apart and now they are likely roaming the rim of the ledges making their way south and that's why the boat guys are taking fish right now. We just might see a curtain call In Newport or Narragansett or SoCo. I am not by any means an expert on the fall run, when #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& and Piemma and all you other guys were slaying fish in the 80's I was making macaroni necklaces in grade school but I do fish hard and I do pay attention and I can recognize patterns. High winds can ruin the fall run and this year has seen nothing but. Boy I hope I'm wrong about this but....

anyway... I'll be out there at 4:00am tomorrow praying.

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Old 11-08-2005, 05:45 PM   #75
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Heh, you should have heard the disappointment in the voices of the people I talked to this morning (before I heard the big fish report, although the locations are not going to be disclosed).

You want 12" bass and some blues? Come on down!
I am sure you knew I was just kidding,

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Old 11-08-2005, 09:07 PM   #76
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in the 80's I was making macaroni necklaces in grade school
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