be careful when fishing alone - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

redcrbbr · 06-10-2007, 04:10 PM

I Heard this from a friend who heard it on a scanner about 4 am this morning. A lone fisherman out at gooseberry was beat up and struck in the head with a rock. The fisherman although hurt and bleeding called police and proceeded to follow the six people in his car while talking to the local PD.
The Westport police caught and arrested all six jerks, they also called EMT's to the scene to take care of the fishermans injuries. I have no names, but if I see or hear anything more I will update.

Kudo's to the police and I hope the injuries to the fisherman are not serious.

Please be careful especially if you fish alone.

missing link · 06-10-2007, 04:39 PM

WOW that guy is lucky!!!!!!!!!!! and tough & I thought I had it bad today sinking in mud up to knees.
ML

afterhours · 06-10-2007, 05:26 PM

be armed

when alone...

Slingah · 06-10-2007, 05:59 PM

I hope it's not who I think it might be......and he is usually armed...

riverrat2 · 06-10-2007, 06:11 PM

No it wasn't him matt.

Slingah · 06-10-2007, 06:13 PM

thanks Max....I just called him and no anwser...I was getting worried
Glad they got the punk scum!!!!!

bart · 06-10-2007, 06:37 PM

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No it wasn't him matt.

good to hear it wasn't him.. if it were, i'd be more worried about the 6 punks

labrax · 06-10-2007, 06:57 PM

This just sucks! I hope the fisherman is okay and these scumbags get convicted of assault and get some time, but that probably won't happen in this state.

I fish alone all the time, and just carry a knife with me, and I would rather leave than be confrontational as I have a family to consider, but stories like this make me want to get my pistol permit.

The last thing I want is to have to deal with someone looking to screw with me when I am fishing, unfortunately, you run into some strange characters and the odds go up that you will encounter some bad characters, or alcohol or chemically impaired punks when you are out in the middle of the night alone at some places. I would rather have the ability to defend myself rather than have my skull crushed in after handing over a wallet.

There is a post on another forum about a fisherman from Long Island that is missing. A determination has not been made as to what happened Friday night, but this guy has not returned home. I hope he shows up home alright and hope that he is not the victim of violence or fishing accident - it appears that he was fishing alone too.

spence · 06-10-2007, 07:35 PM

A sidearm while fishing...are you guys n#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g futs?

If anything carry pepper spray, anything else isn't going to be worth the legal hassle when you have to justify defending yourself.

-spence

Gunpowder · 06-11-2007, 06:44 AM

gotta carry a nice knife on ya at all times... there the only things that never jam in the heat of the moment

woodpro1102 · 06-11-2007, 09:29 AM

Everyone here has some good points and I agree that you should carry SOMETHING to protect yourself. I have nothing against firearms but can understand that most people wouldnt want to deal with what happens after you shoot someone. A bat is a good choice, they even have those stubby bats made for clubbing fish which could be handy because you could keep it with you. A nice extractable baton would be a nice choice too. A good point was made that surf fishing at night is dangerous enough as it is weather it be slippery rocks or rough current, that gives me a nice little rush and adds to the excitement for me but the last thing I want to worry about is someone else putting me in danger. I dont get scared at night but I am very cautious when someone is around and I try to always be ready for anything that could happen. I like being on a beach with other anglers around, that is probably when I feel the most safe because hopefully they would try to help me like I would anyone else. Sorry for the long reply, I just think a good discussion came of this and would like to hear what other people have to say. Thanks alot.

Alex

redcrbbr · 06-11-2007, 09:41 AM

I am not really sure of what the situation was, whether he was coming or going. I know if i was leaving and saw a bunch of guys partying in the parking lot perhaps being a bit roudy, i probably would have called the cops, hung back and checked out the scene before they saw me. Then again if i pulled into the parking lot and saw a bunch of guys drinking, i would have called the cops.
As i see it now, I am sure the gate will now start being locked up again making for a long walk being made longer.

likwid · 06-11-2007, 10:18 AM

3oz snag hook to the head.

Hooper · 06-11-2007, 10:39 AM

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3oz snag hook to the head.

likwid · 06-11-2007, 11:35 AM

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1266 w/ a calcutta conquest.
100mph sidearm.

MAC · 06-11-2007, 11:48 AM

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1266 w/ a calcutta conquest.
100mph sidearm.

I'd still rather have 11 silver tips

Pete_G · 06-11-2007, 11:19 AM

Just got an update on all this. A buddy of mine was there when it went down.

Sounds like it was just a squabble between high school kids and NOT a fisherman that was under attack.

woodpro1102 · 06-11-2007, 11:24 AM

That changes EVERYTHING! Many high school kids like to fight so let this be a lesson to them. Thats all that had to be said in this case lol. Either way, stay safe out there guys and try to buddy up whenever possible. Tight lines.

Alex

Swimmer · 06-11-2007, 11:52 AM

make sure it is a GLOCK they are made of plastic for the most part. Easier to clean and one other thing, no striations, in the barrell.

MakoMike · 06-11-2007, 01:20 PM

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make sure it is a GLOCK they are made of plastic for the most part. Easier to clean and one other thing, no striations, in the barrell.

Where did you come up with bit of misinformation?

MAC · 06-11-2007, 01:35 PM

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Where did you come up with bit of misinformation?

The body is a polymer and the rifling in the barrel isn't a right angle but more of a rounded fluting

MAC · 06-11-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Swimmer

make sure it is a GLOCK they are made of plastic for the most part. Easier to clean and one other thing, no striations, in the barrell.

Redsoxticket · 06-11-2007, 12:38 PM

The army surplus stores probably carry hand grenades which are replicas or the real thing but not loaded. If they do carry a couple, pull the pin and threaten the thugs. If anything it would hurt more then a rock if thrown to the head.

chris L · 10-18-2007, 01:32 PM

hooper is right on . you better be ready . I have been robbed at gun point 2 times and shot at once ( accidentally ) . The guy who shot next to me was a basket case . He wasnt ready mentally . the 2 times I was robbed they wernt ready mentally either but I if I pulled my pistol who knows if they would have known they now have to go through with it .

I dont carry for many reasons but 1 thought is I dont want have to clean it religeously and if I dont the one time really I need it and it wont fire . oops bad move . I dont think I would have any problem shooting to save my life or someone elses but I dont want to have to find out .

I fish alone all the time mostly I carry a fishing rod with many lures that can be swung to cause some damage , maybe enough to get them to back off . If not then oh well .

as far as the guy that this happened to he may have been ambushed by them . and had no time to react . I dont know wasnt there . I hope all is well with him and they are put in jail . take my stuff but do ya really have to hurt me ?

too many asswipes

AT Grimaldi · 10-18-2007, 02:05 PM

All I have to say is that I like my little boat even more.....

I still think I need a bigger boat (in case my wife is watching this thread.

- ATG

Hooper · 06-11-2007, 10:03 AM

The thing with drawing a weapon is, you better be ready to use it, both physically and mentally or be prepared to have that weapon used on you. Having a gun is great, but do you have the stones to protect yourself when the chips are down and your life is in serious danger, which in this situation, it clearly was? I have not a doubt in my mind that I will use deadly force to save my life, I have held that mindset since the age of 18 when I served in the infantry and now as a patrolman, I have to live, I have to win each confrontation, period. Anything short of that, weapons are useless and could be dangerous.

Pete_G · 06-11-2007, 10:18 AM

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The thing with drawing a weapon is, you better be ready to use it, both physically and mentally or be prepared to have that weapon used on you. Having a gun is great, but do you have the stones to protect yourself when the chips are down and your life is in serious danger, which in this situation, it clearly was? I have not a doubt in my mind that I will use deadly force to save my life, I have held that mindset since the age of 18 when I served in the infantry and now as a patrolman, I have to live, I have to win each confrontation, period. Anything short of that, weapons are useless and could be dangerous.

That's how I feel as well and it's why I like my visible (without actually holding it) baseball bat. Once you're wielding a knife, something is either already happening or likely to happen or at the very least the police will pay you a visit wondering why you were wielding a knife. It's just more drama then I need. Then again, so is getting whacked in the head with a rock, which is why there is logic to a gun.

I just feel with the bat I can clearly be a discouraging target, without actively doing anything. Head things off before they get to a confrontational level. If I'm in a spot I'm feeling vulnerable, I just make sure the bat is visible in the light of my trunk or that I shine the light on it in the bed of a truck. It passively gets the message across without escalating a situation.

Tough subject, and tough to get the balance of safety and defense right...

MakoMike · 06-11-2007, 10:55 AM

Not due to violence, but a guy fishing from shore in LI was just hauled out of Great South Bay, dead. His wife reported him missing on saturday when he didn't come home. Se be careful even when there's no obvious threats!

HighTide · 06-11-2007, 11:52 AM

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Not due to violence, but a guy fishing from shore in LI was just hauled out of Great South Bay, dead. His wife reported him missing on saturday when he didn't come home. Se be careful even when there's no obvious threats!

When I was stationed at Castle Hill back in '87'or '88 a guy went missing, his car was found along with some gear on the rocks but there was no sign of him. About a week goes by and he was found by a couple of divers at the mouth of the Castle Hill cove. I'll never forget pulling him out of the water- it was awful. I guess the conclusion was that he slipped and hit his head.

I don't know if anyone here remembers this or knew the guy, but it must have been hell for his family

reelecstasy · 06-11-2007, 01:48 PM

Does Aquaskinz make a belt clip for it