Why haven't you landed a #50 yet ?? - Page 3 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Backbeach Jake · 01-31-2008, 10:47 PM

Because I don't think that it's fish that I'm after.

RIJIMMY · 01-31-2008, 11:43 PM

Bass Dawg - I have no reason to doubt you personally, except that I doubt everyone. I know some very good fisherman. My Dad was one of the best, fished 4 + nights a week for years and has a few 50s , 40s etc . Which were weighed, blessed and photographed.
For you to say "and to the several over 30's that i did land this year. " I can't buy it, unless you are talking inches. Please post some pics to prove me wrong, The best fisherman I know, i know many, would never say they lost 50s and 60s, those are fish of a lifetime and very hard to come by.
I've posted this on here before and I'll say it again. For the average angler -
A 12-18lb bass is 25lbs, a 25-32lb bass is over 40, etc. I've seen it a 100 times.
I've spent 1000s of nights at some of the best spots and I've seen a handful of 30s over the last 8 years. SOme of the absolute BEST fsiherman on this site, caught "several" 30s this year. The very, very, very good ones, MAY have caught 2 30s this year. Sorry man, I can't buy you caught several 30s.

Raven · 02-01-2008, 07:04 AM

opportunity and or the $Cash$ available to go usually! which isn't to often' but i remain Hopeful as thats all gonna be changing one day
so i have learned to be patient ..................very patient

i am a Member of S-B to help keep the Dream "ALIVE "

piemma · 02-01-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Bass Dawg - I have no reason to doubt you personally, except that I doubt everyone. I know some very good fisherman. My Dad was one of the best, fished 4 + nights a week for years and has a few 50s , 40s etc . Which were weighed, blessed and photographed.
For you to say "and to the several over 30's that i did land this year. " I can't buy it, unless you are talking inches. Please post some pics to prove me wrong, The best fisherman I know, i know many, would never say they lost 50s and 60s, those are fish of a lifetime and very hard to come by.
I've posted this on here before and I'll say it again. For the average angler -
A 12-18lb bass is 25lbs, a 25-32lb bass is over 40, etc. I've seen it a 100 times.
I've spent 1000s of nights at some of the best spots and I've seen a handful of 30s over the last 8 years. SOme of the absolute BEST fsiherman on this site, caught "several" 30s this year. The very, very, very good ones, MAY have caught 2 30s this year. Sorry man, I can't buy you caught several 30s.

Jimmy, I agree with some of what you say, especially about guys not knowing what a fish weighs. Years ago I bet a guy $50 at the Charlestown breachway (what a zoo!!) that his "40lb" was 22 or 23#. We took it to Capt. Don's when he was in the old building and it weighed 21. The guy issues a string of profanities you would not believe told Don his scale was off and left without paying up on the bet. As my old and departed friend Lanny use to say "show me the slips".

Joe · 02-01-2008, 08:21 AM

This is not directed at anyone other than myself.
There's a sad truth to face when you realize that you're not as good, nor do you fish enough spots, when compared to most of the people who have gotten fifties.
I have not gotten a 50 because I have not fished as much as I needed to once I knew what I was doing, and because my methods and repertoire of spots are inferior when compared to most of the people who have caught a fifty.

Vogt · 02-01-2008, 08:21 AM

Buy a boga or similar lipper/weighing tool. Test it for accuracy before using it. That way, even if you want to release your fish you can get a fairly accurate measurment.

And why havent I caught a 50: Not enough years of surfcasting (3) and just not good enough yet.

RIROCKHOUND · 02-01-2008, 08:32 AM

RIJ,
Amen!
I always try and round down when estimating, but am usually within a handful of pounds on fish actually weighed, because without our honor out there we don't DESERVE a 50... hooking and landing a fish of that size wouldn't be lucky, or skillful, it would be a privilege! .

As far as losing 2 50's and a 60... I've dropped a handful of 'big' fish. But how big? Who knows... I remember thinking I was north of 40 at Q one night, and it was a foul hooked bluefish, and a second time at a UDL with PIemma when I snagged 14 lbs of angry blue behind the dorsal... my curse echoed back to gansett from there!

BackBeach
"I’ve heard of many guys C and R so called "50's" and I think most, if not all of them are completely full of %$%$%$%$. Many are just looking to seal the deal by using the “formula” or hand scales to cement their rock star status. Show me the slips."

I agree; I think the exception is people who have already caught/seen a 50 before, weighed it, and released it (i.e. DZ). Otherwise you're just in RHM status...
show me the slips is right!

bloocrab · 02-01-2008, 08:48 AM

Goose, in answering your original question....I don't know why I haven't. I honestly don't think there's a specific nor a cumulative reason why. I don't really believe in luck, but I do believe in God, and if and when He chooses to bless me with a fish of that size, I will be grateful. If I never get blessed with a fish that big, I'll consider myself blessed in many other ways fishing related. I'm sure you know personally, that I'm perfectly content with my time on the water, whether I'm catching or just fishing. Do I dream of catching a 50?

...OF COURSE I DO, who doesn't? Can "Positive thinking" help me reach some goals in my life? ABSOLUTELY! Can "Positive thinking" put a 50 on the end of my line?

If I wish hard enough, will the fish be there?

How many people on this board have only been fishing 1/2 dozen years or so and already have BIG fish under their belts? Should I be discouraged, jealous, MAD? Are they fishing harder than I have? Are they using a secret lure? Is there a method to this madness?

You can target large and you cannot target large. If you know what you're doing, you know what I mean by that. Putting yourself in the right condition(s), (time/place/tide/bait/etc/etc) will definately increase your odds of catching bigger fish, but that 50#er not only HAS to be there, but also has to choose your offering, once that happens, your skill along with your gear...will help with the rest. That being said, I personally do not always target large. Based on your post, that alone could be the reason why I have not caught my 50. Your opinion - like mine, means nothing. That guy chunking mooshy mackerel on the beach casting 40 feet out in 4 feet of water eating his lunch under the high Sun landing a 50lb. fish tells me more than both our opinions combined.

We all have our favorite spots. There are many reasons why we favor them, whether we've caught our biggest there or because we've caught a lot of fish there or maybe it's a spot that the skunk rarely visits, again...there are a LOT of reasons why we favor spots. However, no matter how much you like that spot, you still can't wish a 50 to be there. If you feel confident that this spot should be a BIG fish spot, fish it hard, fish it often, fish it confidently. Don't let someone tell you that you'll never catch a BIG fish there. Is catching a 50# fish something one wants for himself OR is it the status that one inherits once he has it? Not a question that gets answered honestly I think -

Riddle me this Batman, I went fishing with a friend on his boat. HE researched the spot, put in HIS time, and shared HIS spot with me

. One night while we were fishing, the action heated up. My friend landed BIG fish, ALL of his fish dwarfed my fish. I mean he caught fish from 25#s to the HIGH 40# mark, while I caught nothing larger than 30 inches. Let's weigh in the varialbles. He was using eels - I was using eels. He was spot casting to a certain hole - I was casting in the SAME exact hole. Almost like jetty currents, he would cast, get his fish out of the hole and then I would cast and get my fish out of the hole. We were both consistently "hooking up". Technique was almost out of the question as the fish were hitting a specific part of the water column so as the eel sank it got blasted. I believe we were both using braid. How was this possible? How could 2 completely different class fish be in the same hole, and beyond that...why would the larger ones inhale his eel while the smaller ones dined on mine? He joked about picking the larger eels, which I also used ??? Was he reaping the rewards of doing the homework, did the fish Gods know who really deserved the bigger fish versus who was tagging along?? Karma?? It is what it is...and like my friend Clammer says....."Enjoy what you have".

.

Sea Dangles · 02-01-2008, 09:04 AM

The harder you fish , the "luckier" you get....

piemma · 02-01-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bloocrab

Goose, in answering your original question....I don't know why I haven't. I honestly don't think there's a specific nor a cumulative reason why. I don't really believe in luck, but I do believe in God, and if and when He chooses to bless me with a fish of that size, I will be grateful. If I never get blessed with a fish that big, I'll consider myself blessed in many other ways fishing related. I'm sure you know personally, that I'm perfectly content with my time on the water, whether I'm catching or just fishing. Do I dream of catching a 50?

...OF COURSE I DO, who doesn't? Can "Positive thinking" help me reach some goals in my life? ABSOLUTELY! Can "Positive thinking" put a 50 on the end of my line?

If I wish hard enough, will the fish be there?

How many people on this board have only been fishing 1/2 dozen years or so and already have BIG fish under their belts? Should I be discouraged, jealous, MAD? Are they fishing harder than I have? Are they using a secret lure? Is there a method to this madness?

You can target large and you cannot target large. If you know what you're doing, you know what I mean by that. Putting yourself in the right condition(s), (time/place/tide/bait/etc/etc) will definately increase your odds of catching bigger fish, but that 50#er not only HAS to be there, but also has to choose your offering, once that happens, your skill along with your gear...will help with the rest. That being said, I personally do not always target large. Based on your post, that alone could be the reason why I have not caught my 50. Your opinion - like mine, means nothing. That guy chunking mooshy mackerel on the beach casting 40 feet out in 4 feet of water eating his lunch under the high Sun landing a 50lb. fish tells me more than both our opinions combined.

We all have our favorite spots. There are many reasons why we favor them, whether we've caught our biggest there or because we've caught a lot of fish there or maybe it's a spot that the skunk rarely visits, again...there are a LOT of reasons why we favor spots. However, no matter how much you like that spot, you still can't wish a 50 to be there. If you feel confident that this spot should be a BIG fish spot, fish it hard, fish it often, fish it confidently. Don't let someone tell you that you'll never catch a BIG fish there. Is catching a 50# fish something one wants for himself OR is it the status that one inherits once he has it? Not a question that gets answered honestly I think -

Riddle me this Batman, I went fishing with a friend on his boat. HE researched the spot, put in HIS time, and shared HIS spot with me

. One night while we were fishing, the action heated up. My friend landed BIG fish, ALL of his fish dwarfed my fish. I mean he caught fish from 25#s to the HIGH 40# mark, while I caught nothing larger than 30 inches. Let's weigh in the varialbles. He was using eels - I was using eels. He was spot casting to a certain hole - I was casting in the SAME exact hole. Almost like jetty currents, he would cast, get his fish out of the hole and then I would cast and get my fish out of the hole. We were both consistently "hooking up". Technique was almost out of the question as the fish were hitting a specific part of the water column so as the eel sank it got blasted. I believe we were both using braid. How was this possible? How could 2 completely different class fish be in the same hole, and beyond that...why would the larger ones inhale his eel while the smaller ones dined on mine? He joked about picking the larger eels, which I also used ??? Was he reaping the rewards of doing the homework, did the fish Gods know who really deserved the bigger fish versus who was tagging along?? Karma?? It is what it is...and like my friend Clammer says....."Enjoy what you have".

.

...and so back to my original premise, there is luck involved. Same spot same bait same line same everything.
I don't care what anyone says. i've done this longer than most of the members of this board have been on this planet. There is luck involved in hooking a 50. The skill in being in the right place at the right time with the right equipment and fighting the fish so you win. The luck is having that one 50 take your plug or eel or bunker or whatever. You cannot determine what size large fish is going to take. You can scale up so you are not targeting schoolies but you can't have a positive effect on a fish at 48 taking and a fish at 50 not taking.

MrHunters · 02-01-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Bass Dawg - I have no reason to doubt you personally, except that I doubt everyone. I know some very good fisherman. My Dad was one of the best, fished 4 + nights a week for years and has a few 50s , 40s etc . Which were weighed, blessed and photographed.
For you to say "and to the several over 30's that i did land this year. " I can't buy it, unless you are talking inches. Please post some pics to prove me wrong, The best fisherman I know, i know many, would never say they lost 50s and 60s, those are fish of a lifetime and very hard to come by.
I've posted this on here before and I'll say it again. For the average angler -
A 12-18lb bass is 25lbs, a 25-32lb bass is over 40, etc. I've seen it a 100 times.
I've spent 1000s of nights at some of the best spots and I've seen a handful of 30s over the last 8 years. SOme of the absolute BEST fsiherman on this site, caught "several" 30s this year. The very, very, very good ones, MAY have caught 2 30s this year. Sorry man, I can't buy you caught several 30s.

last sept when we pulled this one in, I could have swore it was going to be my first 30. 42+ inches and such a great fight!!!. Turned out to be only 25ish. BUT, no way did i think it was 40 according to this logic. When it was posted on here that night I said exactly what the scale read.

why havent i caught a 50???

don't know...
but i know i love to fish.

RIJIMMY · 02-01-2008, 09:59 AM

I didndt say everyone uses that logic, but many do. Drag that fish out of a beachway and the guys around you will be saying some guy got a forty.
Its not that people intentionally lie, its just that many have not seen 30, 40, 50 lb fish, so they really have no clue.

Blitzseeker · 02-01-2008, 10:18 AM

I agree with you completely on your fish size post, RI Jimmy. In the pantheon of those on this board I'm a slightly below average fisherman who has fished the surf (less frequently than I'd like) for about a dozen years. I have one fish 45 inches, 36#, next biggest probably only about 26-28#. Thats with a lot of hours in over a long time, far from a sharpie but knowing at least reasonably what I'm doing. 35# + fish do not grow on trees, even for the best of fishermen, except for some very special and very infrequent runs of fish that most will look back on as a "lifetime experience."

In my humble opinion, those catching fish regularly above 35#, like more than a couple a season, are the best of the best of the best striper fishermen on the coast. (Congrats to the many of you on this site that are at that level.) Once you make that club, getting a 40 vs a 50 vs the world record is pretty much luck of the draw.

A guy I fish with regularly with has been fishing MA and RI regularly for 30+ years. He catches fish when no one, and I mean no one, is catching. One of those guys who has fishing in his blood, could haul fish out of a bathtub. Best fish ever is 44#.

JoeP · 02-01-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by piemma

40 years in the surf. Never caught a 50. Lots of 40s. Never a 50.

My late friend Lanny Gazinni, one of the best commercial rod and reel guys ever. Fish the Back all season for 30 years. Never got a 50.

What the hell is the difference? Getting a 50 is luck more than skill.
No one can honestly tell me that they went out one night with the expressed purpose of catching a 50 and did so.

There's obviously a lot of different types of skill required (finding, catching, and landing) - however Paul's post evidences the fact that a lot of luck is involved as well. If you all knew how often & how hard Paul fished over those 40 years in all the "big-fish" spots without getting a 50 you'd see how much luck is needed. The 50 just never swam by & took his offering

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keeperreaper · 02-01-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

The harder you fish , the "luckier" you get....

ain't that the truth.

Flaptail · 02-01-2008, 11:11 AM

These days, at least here on Cape Cod, we have had no real big bait for bigger fish to be enticed to stay here. The herring were plundered by the live line hordes and until last season we only saw peanut bunker each year. So no big bait no big fish to speak of. Yeah occasionally someone will take a fifty but mostly trolling bunker spoons or big tubes but not like the days past. Nothing to hold the big girls here these past ten years or so.

When I was a mate on a charter boat out of Barnstable in 74 we had a blitz on 4th of July where all the boats on Billingsgate went to drifting and casting reverse Atoms because of the vast schools of squid. We had a trip where we took 26 bass, five of which bested fifty pounds. I was gaffing fish and spooling reels left and right for the sports. No squid like back then anymore and no blitzes of big giant bass either. A 30-35 pounder will chase sand eels but bigger than that you need big bait like herring, squid and large bunker.

Maybe with the big bunker returning (hopefully it will continue to increase in numbers of large bunker each year) we may see the chances of hooking up with bigger fish increase as well.

They see the results in Rhode Island, maybe we will see that too here on Cape Cod and your chances will increase as well at a shot at a fifty.

DZ · 02-01-2008, 11:16 AM

This is a very interesting thread... seems like those that have taken 50s don't consider it luck - and those that have not taken a 50 would like to get lucky.

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& has taken many great fish CONSISTANTLY from shore and boat. I consider him one of the very best out there but I'm a little disappointed to find out he's just lucky. In my opinion he'd only be lucky if a 60 hit his empty pogy snagger while trying to catch bait.

Maybe we all have a different definition of luck?

Could we be mistaking luck to meaning:
Good fortune
Fate
Destiny
Accident
Chance
a fluke
good break

DZ

MrHunters · 02-01-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail

These days, at least here on Cape Cod, we have had no real big bait for bigger fish to be enticed to stay here. The herring were plundered by the live line hordes and until last season we only saw peanut bunker each year.

Don't be surprised if you don't see many macks this year either.

Heres a part of Gloucester Im not proud of.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...182977&start=1

fishbones · 02-01-2008, 11:32 AM

I take luck to mean "being in the right place at the right time". After that, it's up to the person fishing to be able to make the fish bite, set the hook, and then fight it to get it in. Not much luck involved in those things. Being prepared is probably the most important thing to bringing in a huge fish. If I was targeting 50#ers, I would make sure I had the right gear (including checking knots nad checking line frequently), the right bait or lure, and the right mindset to handle a fish like that. I wouldn't fish for a big fish without having a plan as to how to get it to the shore or into the boat, either. I think with the rush to get our lines into the water when the fish are biting, many of us fail to prepare or plan correctly to handle the "big one" if she crosses our path. And above all else, the more time you put in, the better your chance of being in the right place at the right time.

piemma · 02-01-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DZ

This is a very interesting thread... seems like those that have taken 50s don't consider it luck - and those that have not taken a 50 would like to get lucky.

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& has taken many great fish CONSISTANTLY from shore and boat. I consider him one of the very best out there but I'm a little disappointed to find out he's just lucky. In my opinion he'd only be lucky if a 60 hit his empty pogy snagger while trying to catch bait.

Maybe we all have a different definition of luck?

Could we be mistaking luck to meaning:
Good fortune
Fate
Destiny
Accident
Chance
a fluke
good break

DZ

Dennis:
You are missing my point. I didn't say Bill was lucky...you did. I find your post to be condescending.

So perhaps I will put it in simpler terms:

2 guys are fishing side by side with the same everything. No difference with gear, eel, technique and they are 3 feet apart.

2 bass swim by. One is 50# the other is 35#. One guy hook the 50 the other guy hook the 35.

So you tell me. For the guy who hooked the 50 is that Good fortune, Fate, Destiny, Accident, Chance, a fluke, good break or LUCK????

You can call it whatever you want. I call it a good fortune, fate, destiny, chance.....LUCKY BREAK!!!!

RIJIMMY · 02-01-2008, 12:04 PM

What about Karma?

"My name is Jim"

Goose · 02-01-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

The very, very, very good ones, MAY have caught 2 30s this year. Sorry man, I can't buy you caught several 30s.

That doesn't sound so far fetched to me, to catch several 30's in one night is not that big of a deal...it doesn't happen that often but it does happen sometimes the #er's are far better then that and all the fish went back, do you really believe everyone is lying when it comes that? same goes with exaggerating the pounds or they released 50's...depends on who's saying it. plenty guys release BIG bass, know who your talking to.

Bloo, your riddle..... that is a case of stepping in chit! Although its impossible to predict, had you or your Buddie been there alone and fished the same exact way I believe some of those same big & small fish would have come over the side .
Here's a riddle 4 you...Two poker players get dealt a hand with equal strengths with equal chips with eqaul players, situation is the same. Why does one reach the final table the other doesn't? One's relying on cards to reach the final table the other has game without cards, in other words he understood the game better.
I was on a deer drive a few years go, I would stand and wait for deer and sometimes I would drive,, I never did very well, why, the group I was with knew the woods and I didn't, I relied on luck they knew when to drive and when & where to stand.
Why is it usually the guy who fishes the front in fresh water bass boat catches the most fish? If there's a good spot on a point of rocks why is there a guy always on that spot? In both cases that guy wants to catch more. Those guys are lucky?

RIJIMMY · 02-01-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Goose

That doesn't sound so far fetched to me, to catch several 30's in one night is not that big of a deal...it doesn't happen that often but it does happen sometimes the #er's are far better then that and all the fish went back, do you really believe everyone is lying when it comes that?

no but I questions the source. knowing BDs posts on this site and the "other" site make it very hard for me to believe he has landed several 30s.

Goose · 02-01-2008, 12:21 PM

RIJ, one thing is certian, there a lot of 'My's' and 'I' in there and that ain't good.

Skitterpop · 02-01-2008, 12:43 PM

http://www.virtualrealityfishing.com/what-is.html

All fishermen are liars. Some are just better at it than others

DZ · 02-01-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by piemma

Dennis:
You are missing my point. I didn't say Bill was lucky...you did. I find your post to be condescending.

So perhaps I will put it in simpler terms:

2 guys are fishing side by side with the same everything. No difference with gear, eel, technique and they are 3 feet apart.

2 bass swim by. One is 50# the other is 35#. One guy hook the 50 the other guy hook the 35.

So you tell me. For the guy who hooked the 50 is that Good fortune, Fate, Destiny, Accident, Chance, a fluke, good break or LUCK????

You can call it whatever you want. I call it a good fortune, fate, destiny, chance.....LUCKY BREAK!!!!

Paul,
It was not my intent to be condescending and the post was not directed anyone in particular. The problem on these boards is a compliment like I just gave #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& can be turned into a criticism by others.

To answer your question:
The guy who took the 50 may have been doing something diffrent than the guy who took the 35.

I'll give you another example: Say you're an accomplished fisherman. You're on a bridge and bucktailing the shadow lines. You see a monster bass in the shadow and cast your offering at her - she takes - you land her - over 50. I just don't consider that being lucky.

Consider someone has fished for many years and put their time in and has seen 50's caught all around him - but hasn't caught one yet. I may consider them unfortunate but I don't consider the other guys lucky. Maybe they were doing something different.

Paul - please don't consider this personal. It's just how I view things.

DZ

spence · 02-01-2008, 01:16 PM

The luck vs skill argument is pretty silly.

Certainly one can catch a large fish with little skill simply because they're lucky. And certainly a skilled fisherman can go home empty because they didn't have enough luck even though they did everything "right".

But the more times you apply your skills, you dramatically increase the number of opportunities to get lucky, as well as have a better chance to leverage that luck into results. So skill or luck can be good, but skill times luck is even better. Regardless it still takes luck.

-spence

piemma · 02-01-2008, 01:19 PM

OK, I give up. Arguing on the internet is like pissing into the wind: nothing good ever comes out of it and you always end up wet and smelly.

spence · 02-01-2008, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DZ

I'll give you another example: Say you're an accomplished fisherman. You're on a bridge and bucktailing the shadow lines. You see a monster bass in the shadow and cast your offering at her - she takes - you land her - over 50. I just don't consider that being lucky.

Wouldn't you be lucky that the bass was there to be seen? Even if someone is highly skilled in selecting where to fish the fish may not always be there.

-spence

eelman · 02-01-2008, 01:23 PM

Its hard in a thread like this to tread lightly...I certainly do not think It was all luck with any of the fish I have caught..For someone to call it just lucky is an insult to me or just plain ignorance..but again, why go though all the arguing of the point? its just that pointless..Anyone who consistantly puts fish on the beach or in the boat is definatly doing something right...simple as that

Dz, I agree..no matter what you say especially in my case will be twisted...I have no problem with someone calling it luck...it is what it is!

I put myself in positions to get "lucky"

I mention I was lucky or fortunate to catch the fish I have..What else would I say? If I didnt say that I would sound like an ahole, If I say I am good at what I do it would be taken out of context somehow...so its best to be safe and call it luck..However I am no idiot and I certainly know what it took for me to get the fish I have...Lots of personal sacrafice..and lots of learning and obsorbing..Its a journey to be sure...

I consider a 50lb fish a huge acheivement, Putting my personal success aside, It is absolutly something a striper fisherman wants..Just look at this thread??

But again, calling yourself good any invites attacks....so If using the word luck keeps that at bay...fine by me...However I know the work it takes and I am very proud of what I have caught on a personal level....

My absolute best moment was not catching a 60lb fish it was my first 50 from the beach after years of 7 nights a week trying and learning and phyiscally exhausting myself to achevie it..The other fish came from the knowledge I learned leading up to that fish, That one will always be very special to me...The others are awesome but a little more relaxad as to how I felt when I got the first...

If You have a goal it drives you to work harder to get it! Simple as that..My point is , the more you fish the better your odds are because the more you fish the more you learn, the better you get at identifying situations and opertunities that present themselves.

There is no answer to the question "why" for anyone...The mindset should be "when"....Be ready at any moment for it to happen!