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OK NOW I'M SCARED. That site says it's going to eat my cookies...

That would be bad...very bad.

[iamskippy]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

OK NOW I'M SCARED. That site says it's going to eat my cookies...

That would be bad...very bad.

only a chubby guy would be scared.

[UserRemoved1]

yea I don't disagree John. Just wish the funds allowed it right now... One income on plugs sucks for what goes into it. The house computer is going to have to be done this spring and I'll let you know before I do anything so you can throw some input.

vps yea that's what I meant to say

[UserRemoved1]

john who makes a linux shopping cart. I can always keep using fp to ftp up to the site but the cart is the big thing. Got to be something I can cut n paste in fp like what cart32 is now... otherwise it gets so geeky nerd my eyes glaze over like I smoked a pound of columbian gold

[JohnnyD]

Scott, you should look at switching to an online content management system. Much easier to deal with, significantly easier to manage, no more FrontPage (which I hate) and no more copy/pasting then uploading code just to find out it's all screwed up. As an added benefit, it may make your website easier to navigate for the customer and increase conversions, while also improving how Google ranks your pages.

It's definitely a bit of an undertaking. I could go on for hours about how to best optimize a website to increase conversions... but it all depends on your goals.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Scott, you should look at switching to an online content management system. Much easier to deal with, significantly easier to manage, no more FrontPage (which I hate) and no more copy/pasting then uploading code just to find out it's all screwed up. As an added benefit, it may make your website easier to navigate for the customer and increase conversions, while also improving how Google ranks your pages.

It's definitely a bit of an undertaking. I could go on for hours about how to best optimize a website to increase conversions... but it all depends on your goals.

What he said ^

What you are doing now is trying to find an oddball cart system to work with an even more oddball web editor (Frontpage) that most people hate. This is causing you to jump through some gawdawful hoops and suffer some oddball tech issues (VPS Windows Server ).

I don't have an answer for you specifically as what I might do might not be best for you. But you should have a discussion with Pros or investigate from a clean slate.

There are plenty of packages out there that run well, reasonable costs, and are reliable. Miva, Zencart, just two quick examples. You would be well served to find a company that specializes in hosting these systems that can walk you through a bit of it.

[UserRemoved1]

All of which is going to cost so much as to make it prohibitive and you wonder why I'm still where I am doing donuts and tripping over the bar. It would involve shutting the whole thing down for an extended period of time. I'd be eating more peanut butters n jellies by weeks end. square one here we come

Originally Posted by JohnR

What he said ^

What you are doing now is trying to find an oddball cart system to work with an even more oddball web editor (Frontpage) that most people hate. This is causing you to jump through some gawdawful hoops and suffer some oddball tech issues (VPS Windows Server ).

I don't have an answer for you specifically as what I might do might not be best for you. But you should have a discussion with Pros or investigate from a clean slate.

There are plenty of packages out there that run well, reasonable costs, and are reliable. Miva, Zencart, just two quick examples. You would be well served to find a company that specializes in hosting these systems that can walk you through a bit of it.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

All of which is going to cost so much as to make it prohibitive and you wonder why I'm still where I am doing donuts and tripping over the bar. It would involve shutting the whole thing down for an extended period of time. I'd be eating more peanut butters n jellies by weeks end. square one here we come

You can build the entire website on a sub-domain before changing it all over to your main page. No shutting down, no loss of current sales. Then, when the website is complete, you make a couple small changes with regards to how the domain is setup in the Content Management System and the software does the rest of the work.

I bet it takes you at least an hour if not a couple hours to add new plugs to your website right now... you know how long an online CMS would take? Minutes.

According to a couple sources online, Saltys.co only has 13 pages of content. You could transfer that to a new CMS in a day or two. I also just noticed that there is a restaurant in Seattle that is Saltys.com. I guarantee you're losing some customers by them typing .com instead of .co.

Are you doing any tracking of your web traffic? That can tell you a lot. For instance, if tracking shows that a lot of people are loading items into their cart and then they start to checkout but you then they quit, some of those lost sales could be saved through testing and making adjustments but you won't know how without tracking.

Like I said before, I could go on for days about this stuff. If you're curious about looking more into it, let me know and I'll dig up some info for you to take a look at.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

All of which is going to cost so much as to make it prohibitive and you wonder why I'm still where I am doing donuts and tripping over the bar. It would involve shutting the whole thing down for an extended period of time. I'd be eating more peanut butters n jellies by weeks end. square one here we come

No need to shut down at all, bring up two sites concurrently and when the new site is ready to go, more or less flip the switch.

Johnny is correct WRT a CMS system (Content Management System) that hooks your cart system. Look at SWE's site using Miva, pretty good job. You can make the changes over a web page, no need to create file in FP (5 times) and FTP up the site 5 times until you like it.

Anyway, not trying to go too much into this online, just saying it might be worth a different approach.

[UserRemoved1]

understand John. So whose cms? if not joomla then who? wodpress?

Originally Posted by JohnR

No need to shut down at all, bring up two sites concurrently and when the new site is ready to go, more or less flip the switch.

Johnny is correct WRT a CMS system (Content Management System) that hooks your cart system. Look at SWE's site using Miva, pretty good job. You can make the changes over a web page, no need to create file in FP (5 times) and FTP up the site 5 times until you like it.

Anyway, not trying to go too much into this online, just saying it might be worth a different approach.

[UserRemoved1]

I can have a complete new plug page online right now in less than 5 minutes. Except for taking pictures..

I can add or remove plugs in the cart in less than 30 seconds.

saltys.co is not the main search engine site. It's what I've started moving everything towards however. Sometime by the end of the year I hope to have all the advertising changed to this. I like the .co url and think in the future it will be much easier to find as I map everything towards that. If you really want to mistype try stripersonline.co

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&.com or saltwaterplugs.com should have the majority of the stuff. Probably #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&.

Maybe it's time to have a geek convention at the shop

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

I can have a complete new plug page online right now in less than 5 minutes. Except for taking pictures..

I can add or remove plugs in the cart in less than 30 seconds.

saltys.co is not the main search engine site. It's what I've started moving everything towards however. Sometime by the end of the year I hope to have all the advertising changed to this. I like the .co url and think in the future it will be much easier to find as I map everything towards that. If you really want to mistype try stripersonline.co

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&.com or saltwaterplugs.com should have the majority of the stuff. Probably #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&.

Maybe it's time to have a geek convention at the shop

Yeah, power up the soldering irons

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

I'll take a peek at drupal later.

Don't worry about Drupal. Talk to LW and see what they say regarding commerce stuff. They support that too.

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

Is that installed on the server AND the local computer or just on the server and everything is done via browser?

Web browser. This is how most of the world does it now, excepting many larger systems.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Don't worry about Drupal. Talk to LW and see what they say regarding commerce stuff. They support that too.



Web browser. This is how most of the world does it now, excepting many larger systems.

Gee the web a browser? are you sure?

[UserRemoved1]

John os commerce is what they show on the site.

Originally Posted by JohnR

Don't worry about Drupal. Talk to LW and see what they say regarding commerce stuff. They support that too.



Web browser. This is how most of the world does it now, excepting many larger systems.

[UserRemoved1]

fyi I put joomla on the server a while ago. I know John has messed with that alot before but then he said he was liking other stuff. It changes so fast there's no way I can keep up with it myself I'd need a dedicated it nerd to do all the stuff and keep it current. FP I know like the back of my hand and have had great success with it. As with the cart which I've stuck with for like 13 years now. Problem is now all the nerds don't like windows hosting anymore so it's getting old.

When I looked at joomla all I saw was the glaze like they use on donuts. holy moly.

[UserRemoved1]

Google shows 160 pages ~ on #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, I'm not really sure how many there is anymore. It's alot.

[UserRemoved1]

The first two are out. Will not use something hosted by someone else. Got to be hosted on my own server. I want control over it so if something needs to be fixed I can get it fixed not be held hostage by another company.. Learned this first hand when I was with ixwebhosting when they refused to give me my files back when the site was inaccessible. Liquidweb has been fantastic in the 13 months I been with them. Their service is well worth the additional (not cheap) funds I pay them every month instead of going with a shared server setup with loads of other traffic on it.

I own my carts outright right now and would prefer to continue that way. Is miva shared or purchased?

[JohnR]

Scott, there are quality hosting companies that specialize in hosting e-commerce. That's what you need. Whether you own it on your server means that you probably have less recourse when a problem comes by.

(And JohnnyD , I would not recommend Scott using those three CMSs to host the e-commerce portion. Probably should have clarified that a little better but I would consider Drupal or Joomla for the balance of the site.)

Glad Liquidweb has worked. I've been with them for 5-6 years now? On my second server and will probably do another next fall.

Ask Liquidweb what their options and support are for E-Commerce tools. You could theoretically go with a small shared hosting account to setup, and when ready roll that into a Linux based VPS - just a thought.

[UserRemoved1]

Already looked, os commerce. Really don't want shared though. That's one of the reasons I went on my own to begin with. I really want stuff kept in-house. If I own it and they don't give me good enough service I have a multitude of people that I can pay to work on it if necessary. If it's shared hosting then they typically take their own time to address the problem...you always hear the same thing, oh nobody else is having this problem...sure...as my site is down and people can't get what they want. It happened before with ixweb. Not saying I'd run into this with LW but if it ever did then I can still call Ryan the guy who moved it all last year and is familiar with how it's setup/whiz at working on it.

I'll take a peek at drupal later.

[UserRemoved1]

Is that installed on the server AND the local computer or just on the server and everything is done via browser?

[JohnnyD]

Scott, if you are hard set on hosting everything on your own server, then Joomla will probably be your best option. Take a look at some of these e-Commerce options:
e-Commerce - Joomla! Extensions Directory

You'll use a web browser to access, add and edit your website, but it will all be hosted on your own VPS.

[UserRemoved1]

Hitman pro is my new best friend.

no more redirects

TRACKING COOKIES

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

Hitman pro is my new best friend.

no more redirects

TRACKING COOKIES

Cool Dude. I want to come look for plugs now.

[JohnnyD]

Blow. That. Machine. Up.

At a minimum, back up everything and do a clean install. There's no way to guarantee you got it all and chances are pretty good that you didn't.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Blow. That. Machine. Up.

At a minimum, back up everything and do a clean install. There's no way to guarantee you got it all and chances are pretty good that you didn't.

He likes the pain

[UserRemoved1]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[UserRemoved1]

mmmmm make it hurt bill you big studmuffin

[UserRemoved]

bastids got me again. google re-directs. Same thing.

[Raven]

i tracked my oatmeal cookies right back to BJ's.