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Jim, I don't mean to come across as a dck as much as I do but with all due respect, you brought up the racism thing several times. I commented that the people I know personally who associate with the tea party are racist. I said there was some evidence of racism at rallies. That is all I said. I didn't bring up the racism issue. I didn't say the tea party as a party has a racist agenda. There is a percentage of people who like the tea party because they want the federal budget cut. You are one of those people. If anyone says you are racist because you are a tea party supporter, that is bs. I think that is what you are getting at with this and I agree with you completely. That said, I believe the agenda of the tea party is appealing to a racist portion of the population for obvious reasons. I didn't play the card, you did.
If Scott said poor people, considering almost 40% of welfare recipients are white, then he is addressing those people and not a race. His statement specifically implied that all blacks need the tea party agenda to escape the "shackles of poverty." Something tells me Colin Powell does not specifically need the tea party policies to escape the shackles of poverty. Why does Scott keep bringing up race?
If Scott said poor people, considering almost 40% of welfare recipients are white, then he is addressing those people and not a race. His statement specifically implied that all blacks need the tea party agenda to escape the "shackles of poverty." Something tells me Colin Powell does not specifically need the tea party policies to escape the shackles of poverty. Why does Scott keep bringing up race?
First, I'm Jim not Scott...
Second, what I obviously meant was that POOR blacks would benefit by embracing Tea Party ideals. You are right, Oprah Winfrey doesn't need the Tea Party. Pointing out hypertechnical issues is not advancing the debate, does it?
"Why does Scott keep bringing up race?"
Again, I'm Jim. It was brought up because conservatives like me do not like it when liberals dismiss us as racist, instead of discussing the pros/cons of our ideas. That is very intellectually dishonest...And you quickly played that card, then you denied doing it.
I cannot comprehend how you can ask that question, but once again, you played the race card when you said this...""There is plenty of evidence that a substantial portion of the members of the tea party are racist."
Not only is that clearly playing the race card, it's also nonsense. Your handful of friends do not represent "plenty" of evidence, nor do they represent a "substantial" portion of the Tea Party.
"some might say that a business tax code without loopholes would reduce the tax burden on a wider proportion of people."
If business tax hikes only impacted owners of a business, you would be correct. Zimmy, can you answer a question? Where do you think business tax revenue ultimately comes from? Do you grasp that when busines taxes are increased, that means everyone associated with that business pays more taxes? And that includes not just the rich owners, but also employees and customers? IS now a good time to increase the cost of doing business?
I agree that scofflaws like GE need to pay their share. But most businesses already pay their taxes, and increasing those rates now, may do more harm than good.
"please stop indicating that I should respond to everything you say"
If you won't respond to what I'm actually saying, I'd appreciate it if you didn't chime in just to call me a racist. But you are free to do that if you wish...
I gave evidence of a racist component of the tea party. That is it. You stated there is ZERO EVIDENCE. You asked the question, I responded. Your business tax assumptions assume every penny of tax is passed on to consumers or employees. That is factually untrue based on past analysis of taxation. I appreciate your passion, but please know that I am done responding to this thread.
but with all due respect, you brought up the racism thing several times. I commented that the people I know personally who associate with the tea party are racist. I said there was some evidence of racism at rallies. That is all I said. I didn't bring up the racism issue. I didn't say the tea party as a party has a racist agenda. There is a percentage of people who like the tea party because they want the federal budget cut. You are one of those people. If anyone says you are racist because you are a tea party supporter, that is bs. I think that is what you are getting at with this and I agree with you completely. That said, I believe the agenda of the tea party is appealing to a racist portion of the population for obvious reasons. I didn't play the card, you did.
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