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Old 10-04-2013, 06:46 AM   #1
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If they determine that overfishing is a factor...they should all lose their jobs and I think the RFA should pursue criminal charges. Overfishing is should never occur if it is managed properly IMO.


This is OT but a little related:

What are the laws governing dragging in sounds? I am seeing more and more small draggers working in some cases with mile off the beach in both ACK and V sound! I have been taking photos of these boats, I pass them every day. How is it we allow draggins in sounds? These guys should be out of site of land. The quoata is not an excuse to deplete out sound of fish. sounds bays and estuaries should be nurseries for fish and protected from commercial fishing.

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Old 10-04-2013, 02:02 PM   #2
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FWIW, I hear vis the rumor mill that the ASMFC intends to take some action soon to prevent overfishing in 2014.

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Old 10-04-2013, 02:38 PM   #3
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FWIW, I hear vis the rumor mill that the ASMFC intends to take some action soon to prevent overfishing in 2014.
Make it illegal to posses bass from Nauset inlet to the Nantucket sound entrance make the canal a catch and release river lol.
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Old 10-04-2013, 03:36 PM   #4
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Those of us who fished the outer cape this year can tell you that any data that doesn't show overall catch plummeting to early 1990s levels is absolute crap. There were flat out no bass this year out there...none.
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Old 10-05-2013, 04:10 PM   #5
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... make the canal a catch and release river lol.
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I am pretty sure canal rules state if you catch it, you kill.

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Old 10-06-2013, 08:51 AM   #6
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Blitzseeker, post like yours really make me laugh.i fished the beaches of the outer cape,ptown and truro from early june till early sept this season and i caught quite a few bass.granted i fish 7 nights a week work in a tackle shop and have all the info needed to find fish,but even many of the shops customers who rarely fish caught fish this spring.it was actually one of the better springs in the last few years.unfortunatly very few people were on the beach when the fish were there.mid july till early sept was pretty dead,but if you put the effort in there were some fish around at night.
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Old 10-06-2013, 11:02 AM   #7
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Blitzseeker, post like yours really make me laugh.i fished the beaches of the outer cape,ptown and truro from early june till early sept this season and i caught quite a few bass.granted i fish 7 nights a week work in a tackle shop and have all the info needed to find fish,but even many of the shops customers who rarely fish caught fish this spring.it was actually one of the better springs in the last few years.unfortunatly very few people were on the beach when the fish were there.mid july till early sept was pretty dead,but if you put the effort in there were some fish around at night.
This post kills me. This is the same arguments that were givin before the moratorium in the 80's. The guys who fished non stop who were either pin hookers, poachers or charter captains ( anyone making money off of bass legit or not) screamed up and down that there were still some fish around.. You just had to work really hard for them. The fact is that they made money off of these fish and didn't want to loose their income.

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Old 10-06-2013, 11:30 AM   #8
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Now all we need is cow hunter to pop in here and say everything is just fine. Where has he been anyway?
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Old 10-06-2013, 12:11 PM   #9
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Nebe,nowhere do i say things are fine,do i profit from bass yes,i sell a few fish ,sell some plugs and work in a tackle shop.to say that there is absolutly no fish in an area that i fish in is total bs.if he said there are no fishermen i would agree.as far as Cowhunter goes he is probably busy catching all the fish that aren't there.if things are as bad as every one on this site says,maybe it is time to stop fishing altogether,you fish you kill no matter how careful you are.
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Old 10-06-2013, 12:50 PM   #10
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So many striped bass these days you don't even need waders anymore.
You just need to know where to look, that's all.
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Old 10-06-2013, 03:48 PM   #11
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also no need for waders when your fishing is done on the keyboard
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Old 10-06-2013, 05:11 PM   #12
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also no need for waders when your fishing is done on the keyboard
If you are talking about NS you would be way off.

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Old 10-06-2013, 04:26 PM   #13
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So many striped bass these days you don't even need waders anymore.
You just need to know where to look, that's all.
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Old 10-06-2013, 04:58 PM   #14
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Nebe,nowhere do i say things are fine,do i profit from bass yes,i sell a few fish ,sell some plugs and work in a tackle shop.to say that there is absolutly no fish in an area that i fish in is total bs.if he said there are no fishermen i would agree.as far as Cowhunter goes he is probably busy catching all the fish that aren't there.if things are as bad as every one on this site says,maybe it is time to stop fishing altogether,you fish you kill no matter how careful you are.
The guys back in the 80's didn't say things were fine either. I was there. I was on the docks in cuttyhunk then. I witnessed this first hand as a kid.

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Old 10-06-2013, 06:37 PM   #15
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I just don't get you guys who think the fishery is just fine.

Even if you consistently do well on the water, how can you ignore the experiences of all your surf casting peers?

The numbers of fish continue to decline year to year. It's truly sad.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:08 PM   #16
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I just don't get you guys who think the fishery is just fine.

Even if you consistently do well on the water, how can you ignore the experiences of all your surf casting peers?

The numbers of fish continue to decline year to year. It's truly sad.
If they looked at the 2012 ASMFC total catch graph, they would see the recreational catch is down 60% in 6 years. Depends on your definition of fine.

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:54 AM   #17
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Even if you consistently do well on the water, how can you ignore the experiences of all your surf casting peers?
This basically sums up how I feel.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:33 PM   #18
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Based on my journal entries, I am seeing something different. :-(.

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Old 10-06-2013, 10:07 PM   #19
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LMFAO

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Old 10-09-2013, 01:01 PM   #20
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its funny what passes for "good" fishing in the last year or two..... anytime somebody catches more than one er two fish, we think they had a good trip....
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:40 AM   #21
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VT, I agree, I caught some fish in the spring too. But the simple fact is that from late July through the end of the year it was DEAD. The worst I have seen in 25 years of fishing the area. I'm sure there are people that still caught fish when I didn't. But the fact is that while I'm no sharpie, I know what I'm doing and consistently catch when there are fish around. There were lots of fishless trips the last two months. While fishing in any area over two months is anecdotal, I for one am very, very worried about the fishing.
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