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10-04-2020, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
If not for a reporter leak we wouldn’t know Hicks had COVID. If not for a WH physician’s slip up we would not know that the POTUS was infected days before it was announced. What if Pence, who is around a lot of the same crowd as Trump, tests positive? Doubt that will be revealed.
The stunning conclusion from the briefing yesterday is that Tweety knew he had COVID-19 at least 3 days ago (Tuesday), did not disclose it, went to events and risked infecting others.
They thought they could hide this until the media outed Hope Hicks and the POTUS developed symptoms.
Now the White House is infected with lies, corruption, coverups AND Covid.
The number of the infections and potential infections at the White House constitutes a national security crisis of the first order.
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So far, the only official announcement is that he first tested positive Thursday evening ( after he had gone to events). Every thing else is conjecture . . . some want to conjecture it in the worst possible way.
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10-04-2020, 10:31 PM
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Elections have consequences. Because only in your imagination Trump is Americas only hope..
When have I said he is America's only hope? You keep making up ridiculous stuff. Hope for what, anyway? What do you hope for?
I really don't have much hope, nor place much importance on hope. I think we must have a common set of principles on which we govern and are governed in order to have a cohesive well functioning society. I think the Constitution as written is that common core.
But I think that breaking away from that core is no longer fringe or extreme. A sizable number of Americans think it, as well as our capitalistic economy, are regressive, unjust, and inequitable.
And even the Constitution itself has been, and is being, tortured and "interpreted" on a fairly regular basis to mean things other than what is written, even things opposite to what is written. So it is no longer a stabilizing foundation, but more so used as a pretense-by-interpretation to suit the changing whims of new administrations.
So we are adrift, and increasingly in conflict. Even violent conflict. We are internally at war with one another. I don't pretend to have an unbiased view from some mythical "center" between the conflicting sides. We are too far apart to pretend there is some "center."
You may think that is "only in my imagination." I don't think so.
The same guy who went for a a ride around the block to wave to his faithful
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Nor do I think Trump is America's only hope--whatever that is supposed to mean. He is on one side of the divide. The same side I'm on. He holds the position on my side that I don't want us to relinquish. Not because he is wise or honorable or pure or a paragon of leadership, but because if he loses, and we lose Congress, my side loses the influence to help us creep back toward a constitutional order.
And the incoming side with its bureaucratic order, its system of governing by powerful agencies, its authoritarian administrative state will decide what rights we have, what freedoms we're allowed, and will have a hand in regulating every aspect of our lives. And, though it has already done much of that, and captured our educational system, the major portion of our media from news to entertainment, has radically transformed our culture, even our sexuality and genders, and is busy erasing our history and replacing it with what it considers politically, culturally, even physically, correct norms and identities, even though it already has that much power, it may well try to permanently solidify it by adding two more leftist states to hold the senate for the foreseeable future, as well as putting a major nail in the coffin of the Constitution by getting rid of the electoral college, further restricting the First and Second Amendments, and any other part of the Constitution it can dispense with by adding enough SCOTUS Judges to make it all happen.
And if that is not enough, it will lead us further into global corporatism, and eventually into global governance. It has already conditioned a good portion of our youth into accepting that we are too greedy, too oppressive, racist, unjust, too proud, domineering, rapacious, and an all-around bad apple within the world community. That we must give up a lot of that stolen wealth and high standard of living so that the rest of the world can have its share. Our "middle class" must not be allowed to revive. We must accept an equitable, classless, world normalcy within smaller boundaries of personal space and freedom and share that with those whom we have oppressed and from whom we have stolen.
Trump is not "the hope . . . the only hope." It's not about Trump. He does not have that much time left on this earth. The Constitution, our unalienable rights, our sovereign republic, may not either. And I realize that sounds quaint. And that all that good stuff above, that Progressives value, sounds about right to those on the your side of the divide--if I'm not being presumptuous in saying that's your side.
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10-05-2020, 06:33 AM
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10-05-2020, 08:01 AM
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Several times during press conferences on Saturday and Sunday, the White House medical team was asked - and refused to disclose - when the president last tested negative for the virus.
TRUMP has no rights to keep this information a secret, he works for the people of the United States all this is part of the presidential record, and the time line is important,,,
Because of this.. oh he tested positive THURSDAY maybe ? in the hospital Friday back in the car Sunday ? Out Monday? 99% of Doctors are throwing up red flags all saying it dosen't add up... remember the last white house doctor Jackson was widely criticized for giving an uncharacteristically glowing and untruthful assessment of President Trump's health, saying that "if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years, he might live to be 200 years old", and that he had "incredibly good genes, and it's just the way God made him".
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10-05-2020, 08:03 AM
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There’s always a tweet
Oct 24, 2014 08:09:26 AM
The Ebola doctor who just flew to N.Y. from West Africa and went on the subway, bowling and dining is a very SELFISH man-should have known! [Twitter for Android]
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10-05-2020, 08:04 AM
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Very swampy this administration, boy if only we could elect someone to drain the swamp!
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10-05-2020, 11:39 AM
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White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany Tests Positive For Coronavirus
This is what happens when the Culture you practice and promote to your followers.. you convince yourselves it isn't that bad. to appeal to your base , and Not America as 1 nation ! going against the vast amount of information about Masks social distancing packed rallies ect ect
if it would have happen, and they took a more serious tone from the start . Americans could have said at least they tried to do what was required like the rest of us have been doing
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10-05-2020, 11:59 AM
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Hard to believe and two of her deputies in the WH press office tested positive also
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10-05-2020, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany Tests Positive For Coronavirus
This is what happens when the Culture you practice and promote to your followers.. you convince yourselves it isn't that bad. to appeal to your base , and Not America as 1 nation ! going against the vast amount of information about Masks social distancing packed rallies ect ect
if it would have happen, and they took a more serious tone from the start . Americans could have said at least they tried to do what was required like the rest of us have been doing
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If they don't die, perhaps it isn't that bad.
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10-05-2020, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Very swampy this administration, boy if only we could elect someone to drain the swamp!
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The Biden, Pelosi, Schumer swamp is very old and very deep. I don't think they're the ones to drain it.
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10-05-2020, 12:11 PM
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Thinking today for no reason about how DOJ has announced investigations into four Democratic governors for allegedly endangering people's lives through their handling of COVID.
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10-05-2020, 12:34 PM
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Thinking today for no reason about how DOJ has announced investigations into four Democratic governors for allegedly endangering people's lives through their handling of COVID.
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Deep thoughts.
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10-05-2020, 12:45 PM
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Meanwhile everyone at the White House lately drank the COVID-aid
Because Tweety’s COVID policy is “Don’t mask, don’t tell.”
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10-05-2020, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Meanwhile everyone at the White House lately drank the COVID-aid
Because Tweety’s COVID policy is “Don’t mask, don’t tell.”
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you are aware that a lot of people have gotten it ....right?
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10-05-2020, 01:35 PM
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you are aware that a lot of people have gotten it ....right?
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And Tweety’s now a super spreader, so don’t say I never gave him a superlative.
It’s now confirmed that when Trump went on Hannity on Thursday night and said “I just went for a test, and we’ll see what happens, I mean, who knows,” he already had the positive result and knew he had coronavirus.
If Donald Trump doesn’t care about protecting those closest to him, does anybody really think he cares about us?
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10-05-2020, 01:40 PM
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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10-05-2020, 02:09 PM
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A humbling Herman Cain/coronavirus timeline:
6/24: Attends Trump rally, maskless
7/2: Tests positive for Covid-19
7/10: Says he’s improving
7/15: Says his doctors seem happy
7/27: Says he’s really getting better
7/30: Dies
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10-05-2020, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
A humbling Herman Cain/coronavirus timeline:
6/24: Attends Trump rally, maskless
7/2: Tests positive for Covid-19
7/10: Says he’s improving
7/15: Says his doctors seem happy
7/27: Says he’s really getting better
7/30: Dies
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May he rest in peace. At least he won't be badgered by Pete F.
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10-05-2020, 04:56 PM
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Trump tweeted don’t fear Covid, even when sick his messaging is just messed up.
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10-05-2020, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Trump tweeted don’t fear Covid, even when sick his messaging is just messed up.
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Fearing Covid is a sign of weakness. His father’s dysfunction is killing Americans.
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10-05-2020, 06:06 PM
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The only people he is capable of leading are those with TDS.
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10-05-2020, 07:00 PM
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10-05-2020, 08:05 PM
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The faithful are all ready on message
Yup, Trump is in his mid 70's. He is just fine after 3 days. People need to throw away their masks and fears. We're fine.

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10-05-2020, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
The faithful are all ready on message
Yup, Trump is in his mid 70's. He is just fine after 3 days. People need to throw away their masks and fears. We're fine.

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You exaggerate his exaggeration.
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10-05-2020, 08:46 PM
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You exaggerate his exaggeration.
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I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!
Sure Don
https://twitter.com/brenonade/status...363552769?s=21
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10-05-2020, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!
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He did not say, as wdmso claims, "People need to throw away their masks." That was an exaggeration by falsely adding something Trump did not say to wdmso's own misquote "People need to throw away their . . . fears."
And Trump simply meant, as you correctly quoted "Don't let it dominate your life." Gee, what horrible advice!
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10-05-2020, 09:21 PM
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Infected Trump re-shoots entrance into White House with camera crew
Its all a show
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10-06-2020, 06:57 AM
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So just when did Tweety get COVID?
This ain't complicated, people. If Trump had a negative covid test on Tuesday prior to the debate with Biden, the White House would say so.
Trump either lied about having a test before the debate, as he was required to do, or he tested positive and went to the debate anyway.
The reason the White House doesn’t want to do contact tracing is because that would identify the superspreader as
IL DUFUS,
DONATO MUSSOLOONY!!!
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10-06-2020, 08:00 AM
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'Maybe I'm Immune': Trump
Next Trump will be telling people go use herion don't. Be afraid. Of an overdose live your life. We have narcan and the best medical treatments. Available
This statement would be seen as irresponsible by even his supporters
But his statement on covid is showered with praise from his supporters.?.
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10-06-2020, 10:53 AM
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So just when did Tweety get COVID?
This ain't complicated, people. If Trump had a negative covid test on Tuesday prior to the debate with Biden, the White House would say so.
Trump either lied about having a test before the debate, as he was required to do, or he tested positive and went to the debate anyway.
The reason the White House doesn’t want to do contact tracing is because that would identify the superspreader as
IL DUFUS,
DONATO MUSSOLOONY!!!
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